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    I'm in CRNA school and I'm actually doing my thesis on this topic which I became interested in after we watched a video on CRNAs and addiction in one of my classes....I'm just getting into to it but the drug of choice seems to be fentanyl..and addiction to fentanyl is quick and deadly...As posted before personalities traits play a part...CRNAs are for the most part Type As,thrill seekers, and risk takers...They also think that if they can administer powerful narcotics safely to their patients they can administer it safely to themselves...the thing is...you have to keep giving yourself more and more to get the "high" you had before...so you walk a fine line between getting high and a deadly overdose....
    As far as being able to get the drugs without getting caught I think would be the easiest part. Who knows how much you really give? This isn't something I noticed after going to CRNA school but I really started thinking about it when I worked in the ICU prior to grad school. In the ICU all of our pts were sedated with propofol drips that we keep in the pixis....most had fentanyl drips we keep in the pixis...and most if not all had demerol, morphine, ativan etc prn....Now if you're a nurse who becomes an addict how hard would it be to get your morphine prn and then NOT give it to your gorked patient on a diprivan and fentanyl drip...he's not going to know....Also....you have a 250cc bag of fentanyl hanging...you can take a few ccs out for yourself who's going to know that either? I guess a start would be frequent drug testing, you'd be less likely to do it knowing that once a month a few people are getting tested.....
    Most don't get caught because of the paper trail, that comes later....they usually get caught because of their actions and changes in personality etc...

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    I have the book Anesthesia Secrets by James Duke and I LOVE it!!!!! It's great and I use it constantly....It gets to the point and is easy to read and understand....great for careplans! As far as textbooks I love Clinical Anesthesiology by Morgan, Mikhail, & Murray....there's another good one called Clinical Anesthesia (don't confuse the textbook names) by Barash, Cullen, & Stoelting....Stoelting has written many anesthesia textbooks....These are probably books used in any most program but I use my Clinical Anesthesiology a ton...

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    I attend Mountain State University's CRNA program in Beckley, West Virginia....I wouldn't say it's exactly a web based program because we really don't do anything on the web...BUT....I would call it a distance learning program...meaning you don't have to be on campus every day. You leave campus with your lectures downloaded onto your computer to watch at home and also with assignments etc...Testing is done on campus....You have to be on campus in Beckley every 3-4 wks for a 3-4 day block....We have students as far away as Texas who attend...This is a front loaded program with the didactics being the first 15 mos and the clinical portion the last 15 mos......Clinical sites are the area where you live, the only time for clinicals you may have to travel will be for neuro, cardiac, and peds....and with these hospitals they make arrangements for you to stay in the call rooms so you don't have to have hotel expenses....

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    I think it's the same way in Ohio...you can take the NCLEX as often as you want without taking the remedial courses...The NCLEX is the same test everywhere but the remedial courses (if required) is a requirement of each individual state's nursing board not NCLEX.....After you pass the NCLEX you can file for an RN license in any state....after all you'll be an RN at that point...

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    I think the best way to learn how a code works is to first start out documenting and watching everything that's going on....

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    I attended The University of Charleston for my BSN then worked in the MICU at CAMC-Memorial...I'm now attending Mountain State University for CRNA school.....1 semester down 7 to go...lol....

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    I wanted to add that someone had previously posted that you can only get the $18,500 from the Stafford (FAFSA) loan for the year....There is an additional funds form you can fill out to recieve another disburstment of $9250 for a summer semester, as most or all CRNA students go year round...So you would get the $18,500 for Fall and Spring...then an additional $9250 for summer....total of $27,750 in Stafford loans for the year....Check with your financial aid dept. for the additional funds form...

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    Do you know if the check is send directly to the student?
    No the check is sent to the school then to you because it's a loan that has to be certified by the school.......This loan stuff gets pretty tricky and you have to be careful with the loans sent directly to you...Here's what I mean....

    A loan that's sent directly to you does not have to be certified by the school...all you have to do is show proof of enrollment by your acceptance letter or something of the like...Why I'm saying tricky is because your school a long with the feds determine exactly how much you're allowed to borrow each semester for tuition, living expenses etc...This is hard to explain but I'll give it a whirl...

    For example....EVERY graduate student can get a FAFSA loan (the federal loan) for $9250.00 each semester, that's a given you know you're going to get the FAFSA loan.....Ok say that your school allows you to borrow $21,000 each semester for tuition AND living expenses,and other costs....Then say you're tuition is $6000 each semester....Even though your tuition is $6000, you can still borrow the $9250 if you want all of it (most do)...What the school does is then deduct the $9250 from the $21,000 they allow you to borrow for the semester....that leaves you with $11,750 you can borrow in a private loan (certified by the school)....In addition to the $11,750 you still have what's left over from your FAFSA loan...that would be an additional $3250.....total for that semester in "living loans" $15,000....that's just for one semester then you do it all over again....I just threw in there the tuition cost etc to use as an example, every school is going to be different and your financial aid dept. has their own breakdown.

    The reason I said tricky is because you're not allowed to borrow over what the feds determine with your school the amount for each semester...If you get the FAFSA loan, and the loans certified by the school....THEN get the teri loans for the $30,000....they consider that loan part of money borrowed for tuition,living expenses etc...then they won't give you the FAFSA loan....Keep in mind the teri type loans are not certified by the school and the school can't find out about it unless you tell them....We had a student who told the financial aid director that she had a teri loan and it totally screwed up her FAFSA loans for the semester....she had to pay her tuition out of the loan she got to live on....All I'm saying is that if you get a private loan NOT certified by the school....DON'T TELL THEM!!!!!!....Also, the only loans you can get that are sent directly to you are the private loans that ARE NOT certified, otherwise they go through the school....

    I have no idea why they give a crap how much money you borrow to live on...it's not like a grant or something you don't have to pay back....

    Also another note...the teri loans are an annual loan for up to $30,000.....they then charge you an origination fee that's tacked onto the loan amount and you pay interest on that as well.....that's kind of a rip off if you ask me....But then again if you're not working and going to school you don't really care at the time....PNC charges no origination fees and you actually end up getting more per year than the $30,000 from the teri....The difference is PNC disburst money each semester and the teri you get at one time, but you can't get it again until the next year......I would use PNC then get a teri if you absolutely need it....

    Sorry this is so long (and confusing) but I tried to explain it the best way I could....it took me forever to understand the financial aid aspect of it all....
    Good Luck!

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    PNC has a new loan called the Medical Professions Loan Program that CRNA students qualify for....It's actually really good....there is no up front fees or orgination fees (Sallie Mae charges fees)...9 mos grace period after graduation...and you can defer loans up to 8yrs....and a 25 yr repayment plan....They also send the money fast....I believe within 2wks....
    You can get your stafford loan with PNC as well and again unlike Sallie Mae there are no fees charged.....If you visit the website under the MPLP (medical professions loan program) You will see the stafford loan....then under that, the private loan...this is the one you get for money to live on!http://www.medproloan.com/students/a...plp/index.html

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    I think standardized test like the GRE are a racket.....It's nothing more than a money making machine and I'm glad more colleges and universities are seeing the light......I guess like some say it's a way to weed out people based on who has the highest GRE score, but really they could be missing out on a great nurse who can be an even better NP or CRNA....Yea I sucked it up and took my GRE and I'm in a CRNA program...But you'll never convince me the GRE has a damn thing to do with anything other money...

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    We have a resident Dr. Dumm....and Dr.Tickle.....an OB-GYN Dr. Bush....Allergist Dr. Thrush....We also had a resident Dr. Yonker...which we got a kick out of because here we call our Yankauer's ...Yonker's....Surgeon Dr. Lim....and....drum roll please....Dr. Nutt psychiatrist.....haha.....swear it's true!!!

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    My husband has a cousin Candy Cain...(real name).....our unit clerk is named Sekret.....My great great grandmother was named America, apparently not so unusual back in those days....a friend of mine graduated highschool with a girl named Stormy Dawn.....I know a Bliss, Johnny Johnson, David Davidson, Porsche, .....I had a patient who was an old man with the birth name of Baby, and went by that name........This one takes the cake...we have a Dr. Dumm....

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    I graduated from nursing school in WV....I think all the schools in our state pretty much have a pinning ceremony ....my school has a BSN and an ADN program and the pinning ceremony was together....as far as the hats we had to wear them for our official graduation pictures....the pictures are organized by the school...you go to the place where the pics will be taken, the BSN and ADN students caps are different by the folds in the hat... I can't even remember exactly but I think the ADN caps had 2 folds and the BSN had 4 folds...folds for years of school....We didn't even get our own cap, everyone in our class used the same one for the pics...lol....and we didn't have them in any part of graduation....I actually liked the pinning ceremony better than graduation because it was the morning of graduation with only the nursing students and family, faculty members etc present....you got pinned and got a rose, it was really nice....then later that afternoon we had graduation with everyone else graduating that year.....

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    Tom goes from one starlet to the next...he was married to Mimi Rogers then has an affair with Nicole Kidman while on set....marries her...has an affair with Penelope Cruz while on set....she dumps him, then he falls for Katie Holmes while auditioning for one of his movies....Wonder what Scientology Theory that kind of behavior falls under?...Anyhoooo....Tom's the one that looked like a total nut with his Today show rant...it was unbelievable....

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    Where I work nurses work every other weekend....Sat. is the last day of the week and Sun. is the 1st day of the work week (in our work schedule)....If you work you're weekend then you've already worked one day that week with Sunday...Let's say you worked Sat and Sun....then wed and thurs...you're done until the following week....you could have 5 or 6 days off in a row every other week....


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