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ThePrincessBride, BSN, RN 53,695 Views

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Specialty: 3 year(s) of experience in Med-Surg, NICU

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  • Nov 21 '16

    Pay was my calling, but I do enjoy taking care my patients especially the chubby babies

  • Nov 20 '16

    Quote from PsychGuy
    Finally, forcing all of us to pay for the problems you cite is a socialist maneuver. There's no reason the masses should suffer for special interest problems.
    So, basically, you're advocating for a society in which those who can't afford expensive healthcare just die and don't hang around being a burden on the rest of us. Spoken like a true Republican.

  • Nov 20 '16

    PsychGuy: Are you for real? You're a bloody psych nurse and you have no problem with gays being "locked up" or "fined" because you don't agree with our marriage? I hope to God you're never my nurse. Perhaps a profession where you aren't expected to have empathy would be better?

    Let me guess, you're a pissed off white male with a whopping sense of entitlement who thinks women and minorities have gotten too uppity. Reading your posts makes me want to vomit. I'd expect your level of discourse in the comments section on yahoo news but I'm pretty disheartened to see it on a message board of fellow professionals.

  • Nov 20 '16

    Quote from offlabel
    Then why did you cry? I think that all of the handwringing (and rioting) is because folks don't understand what powers a POTUS has and does not have. He can cause inconveniences and annoyances, but even those are reversible (thank God). We have state constitutions and a US constitution and exist in a republic.

    Anxiety is far more appropriate in light of some local elections I've seen.
    We have a Republican president, a Republican House, Senate and Supreme court. The handwringing is appropriate, and while I don't believe in rioting, I'm sympathizing.

    Trump didn't even know that his employees didn't get health care under the ACA. I hope he educates himself before taking office, but given his history of spouting off without knowing the facts, I doubt that will happen.

  • Nov 20 '16

    Quote from PsychGuy
    I am proud to support President Elect Trump, my Republican party, and I have never been so excited about politics.

    For those worried about the direction of healthcare, keep working. Do well, work hard, and you'll make money. We're losing money as a result of Obamacare. For my family of three, I pay $16,000/year in health insurance. I can afford it, but it's ABSURD. It's hard to gauge what a President can do with his first term, but I am definitely excited to find out.

    Obama never did anything positive, productive, and lasting. We now have a business leader who will take office, and I hope this leader will run this country as a business without worrying about individual feelings and entitlements. An array of men have Trump's ear, and these are knowledgeable men with Conservative world views which is just what we need after eight years of socialism.

    I no longer have a concern with global warming. I feel like it's happening, but there are far more pressing issues to concern ourselves with, and sans the transgender sharing regular bathroom thing, which I also believe is ridiculous, I support the Trump-Pence platform wholeheartedly despite knowing more nurses are liberals.
    Trump had a platform? Other than hate, of course. Because it seems to me that he ran on misogyny, racism, xenophobia and all forms of bullying and hatred.

  • Nov 20 '16

    Quote from offlabel
    Then why did you cry? I think that all of the handwringing (and rioting) is because folks don't understand what powers a POTUS has and does not have. He can cause inconveniences and annoyances, but even those are reversible (thank God). We have state constitutions and a US constitution and exist in a republic.

    Anxiety is far more appropriate in light of some local elections I've seen.
    Because little girls will grow up with the knowledge that a man can sexually assault someone, brag about it, and people will still elect him to be the most powerful person in the whole world. How can they feel safe reporting sex crimes?

    Because he's vowed to ban all Muslims from entering the United States. This has been used and will be continued to be used by ISIS as propaganda to rally their troops of their hate against the US

    Because he's determined to build a wall along the border of Mexico and calls Mexicans rapists.

    Because his running mate signed a bill to jail people who applied for a same-sex marriage license.

    Because he allows himself to be easily angered and goaded which is dangerous in the international community.

    Because even if he doesn't mean a single word he has said, he has still stoked people's hatred and intolerance of those different from them. Hate crimes are being reported all over the US right now, just do a google search. Even if he doesn't mean any of his rhetoric, he has allowed it to be socially acceptable.

    A POTUS has enormous influence in this country. It's not the bills he signs but the culture that he influences. And yes, even despite all that, the POTUS is still the most powerful person in the world. He can send military troops to fight wherever he wants without anyone's approval for two months. He can sign executive orders. Yes, we have checks and balances in our system- but a president can still do a lot of damage.

  • Nov 19 '16

    Maybe honesty is something you are lacking. Charting that you left on time when in reality you left early and charting that you gave that treatment when in reality you did not. Soon it will be the IV cardiac meds that you charted as given but then did not, and whoops patient is dead.

    Look for some local ethics classes.....

  • Nov 19 '16

    Quote from STARL
    I really want to be the best nurse that I can. I hated to admit it to myself, but I think that I am a bad nurse.
    Well, based on what you wrote, I think you have good insight in your statement above. I guess it's good that you KNOW you're a bad nurse.

    Here's the thing - with what you shared above, I would not hire you. Ever. Nor would any other decent place. The places that would hire you with your track record are the places that are so desperate that they're going to be bad work environments with huge patient loads. And you've already shown that you do not work well in that environment.

    Honestly, my advice to you is to find a different career. Nursing is not the right career for you.

  • Nov 19 '16

    Quote from Been there,done that
    You are suffering from reality shock. It'll wear off after awhile. Nursing is just a JOB. Most people do not love their JOB.
    YOU happen to have a degree you can do many things with. Stick it out for that golden one year of experience, I promise you.. many doors will open.
    I mostly agree. Most new grads suffer from reality shock to some degree, and most get over it as they progress in their first jobs. I hated nursing, profoundly regretted ever taking the job and was looking for the fast track out of it. I went back to school and got a graduate degree in another field, but something strange happened to me when I wasn't paying attention: I fell in love with my job. When I had the graduate degree in my hand, I didn't want to leave nursing after all.

    Give nursing at least a year -- it takes that long for it all to "click."

    If your favorite part of your job is sitting with a 90 year old dementia patient, consider memory care or LTC. It is a job I could never do, but as the daughter and daughter-in-law of dementia patients, I cannot say enough about how valuable nurses who want to do that job truly are. The nurses who cared for my mother were wonderful, and I am grateful for the way they cared for her. My mother, while she could still communicate, could not say enough about "her nurses" and how she felt they loved her.

  • Nov 19 '16

    Quote from PeacockMaiden
    I like psychguy's

    It has been one of the worst experiences ever to try to find preceptors. It added so much stress. I have a preceptor who is good and she allows me see most of your patients. I have two other preceptors who will only allow me to observe and they make it clear they are too busy to answer many questions. But I took what preceptors I could find, because 'beggars can't be choosers', which is a terrible sentiment when you are talking about an advanced education for an advanced career.

    And my school does not do site visits. How can they? My clinical instructor oversees students in 3 states.
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    No site visits because they oversee too many states is BS. Loyola University New Orleans sends faculty to every site every semester. We even had students in Hawaii & Canada. Your program doesn't want to make the effort. Big difference.

    Hindsight being 20/20, had I known what I know now I never would have completed a NP program. It is unprofessional for students to literally beg for preceptors. Often, the student accepts the first person that says yes. It doesn't mean it is a good fit nor learning environment. Shadowing is merely meeting hour quotas not learning anything. If faculty actually visited you that would have been assessed. So we are churning out NPs that are really not learning anything except how to "network" aka beg and accept scraps of an education. Perhaps that is why several states do not agree with independent practice.

  • Nov 19 '16

    I'm not an APRN student but I have always found the notion of finding your own preceptor RIDICULOUS. That doesn't happen in med school or PA school, so why NP school? Its unprofessional.

  • Nov 19 '16

    Everybody is defending their school with "but it's the highest ranked in the nation"


    a year from now they will be like "omg need women's health preceptor help me plzzzz"

    nobody cares if your school is the highest rank. If you have to sit out a semester because the school isn't providing the full experience it is obviously not a good school. You can't blame the preceptors. Maybe the school should offer them benefit for taking students? I mean we pay enough tuition.

    why shouldn't the burden be on the school? What do we pay them for then!? Jeez people are awful consumers and bend over to take it deep. If you want to take it deep that's fine by me but that makes it harder on the rest of the students who actually have some common sense when it comes to money. If you want to just hand out tuition dollars with no return I'll take some. I need to get my wife a 4wd SUV so she can drive in the snow to and from her medical school clinicals that her school actually set up for her.

  • Nov 19 '16

    I agree with those above. One of the reasons I chose my school was because it matched us with preceptors for our NP clinicals. I would not give my money to a school that left me hanging out int he cold to find my own.. I have also heard of students whose graduation was delayed due to a lack of preceptors. That is completely unacceptable.

  • Nov 19 '16

    I believe the previous posters have adequately addressed the main perceptions of job availability and quality of NPs out there now and to come.

    My only bit of advice would be to think about the unproductiveness of being "offended". Be concerned, ask questions, but don't shut someone's opinion out because it's "offensive". Shore up your being with knowledge on the topic. Confront said professor if you like. Either way, you'll feel better if you've armed yourself with actual facts and not personal conjecture.

    I do applaud you for asking practicing nurses about their opinions but don't rely on the opinions of random people on the internet.

    All right, I'll throw in my opinion. I believe we will continue to see increased demand for NPs. Are we over-supplying? I think that's possible, and certainly when it comes to positions in larger cities who do not suffer as much of a shortage of primary care providers. I think one will always be able to work in rural unpopular areas.

    Also be aware if you do have an unsatisfactory discussion with your lab professor, there are some (certainly not a majority) MDs that see NPs as a threat and hold them in poor regard. For one thing, there has been a lot of resistance from MD lobbying groups in allowing NPs independent practice. On the other hand, where I work in the NICU, the MDs seriously appreciate the neonatal NPs who pick up the bulk of the scut work and take the main call duties overnight.

  • Nov 19 '16

    Just because your professor is a jerk, doesn't mean he's wrong.

    I work with plenty of great NPs and there is plenty of work to go around, but I don't think the current NP model can last. As others have pointed out there is quite a bit a variation in the caliber of both NP students and NP programs. Unfortunately, the best students and the best programs have the most to lose from the current "race to the bottom" NP program boom. How often do you see internet sidebar ads for NP programs for nurses with minimal experience and that specifically advertise the lack of work/clinicals/classroom time required?

    Obviously not every program runs this way, but you can't expect the NP field as a whole to maintain credibility in a world where these programs are plastered everywhere and where the student pool continues to pull from less and less qualified applicants. The trend is completely unsustainable.


    Is it a problem now? Obviously not. In 5 years? Probably still not an issue. But in 20...or 30...? I think by then we'll see real issues. You said you're just starting out in nursing school, so this is a timeline that could very well impact your career.

    As a young, unhappy nurse myself considering career options, I can tell you I will NEVER go to NP school (for this and a few other reasons.) If I decide to go the mid-level/APP/whatever you want to call it route, I will go to PA school. Maybe it's just my geographic area, but I see far more opportunities for PAs. I see an educational model based in medical reality and not "nursing theory" and reflective journals, and I see a career path that is on the up-slope, not the down slope.

    I work with several PAs who were former nurses, and they are all happy with the choice they made to jump off the NP bandwagon.


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