ThePrincessBride, BSN, RN 53,695 Views
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Pay was my calling, but I do enjoy taking care my patients especially the chubby babies
Finally, forcing all of us to pay for the problems you cite is a socialist maneuver. There's no reason the masses should suffer for special interest problems.
PsychGuy: Are you for real? You're a bloody psych nurse and you have no problem with gays being "locked up" or "fined" because you don't agree with our marriage? I hope to God you're never my nurse. Perhaps a profession where you aren't expected to have empathy would be better?
Let me guess, you're a pissed off white male with a whopping sense of entitlement who thinks women and minorities have gotten too uppity. Reading your posts makes me want to vomit. I'd expect your level of discourse in the comments section on yahoo news but I'm pretty disheartened to see it on a message board of fellow professionals.
Then why did you cry? I think that all of the handwringing (and rioting) is because folks don't understand what powers a POTUS has and does not have. He can cause inconveniences and annoyances, but even those are reversible (thank God). We have state constitutions and a US constitution and exist in a republic.
Anxiety is far more appropriate in light of some local elections I've seen.
I am proud to support President Elect Trump, my Republican party, and I have never been so excited about politics.
For those worried about the direction of healthcare, keep working. Do well, work hard, and you'll make money. We're losing money as a result of Obamacare. For my family of three, I pay $16,000/year in health insurance. I can afford it, but it's ABSURD. It's hard to gauge what a President can do with his first term, but I am definitely excited to find out.
Obama never did anything positive, productive, and lasting. We now have a business leader who will take office, and I hope this leader will run this country as a business without worrying about individual feelings and entitlements. An array of men have Trump's ear, and these are knowledgeable men with Conservative world views which is just what we need after eight years of socialism.
I no longer have a concern with global warming. I feel like it's happening, but there are far more pressing issues to concern ourselves with, and sans the transgender sharing regular bathroom thing, which I also believe is ridiculous, I support the Trump-Pence platform wholeheartedly despite knowing more nurses are liberals.
Maybe honesty is something you are lacking. Charting that you left on time when in reality you left early and charting that you gave that treatment when in reality you did not. Soon it will be the IV cardiac meds that you charted as given but then did not, and whoops patient is dead.
Look for some local ethics classes.....
I really want to be the best nurse that I can. I hated to admit it to myself, but I think that I am a bad nurse.
You are suffering from reality shock. It'll wear off after awhile. Nursing is just a JOB. Most people do not love their JOB.
YOU happen to have a degree you can do many things with. Stick it out for that golden one year of experience, I promise you.. many doors will open.
I like psychguy's
It has been one of the worst experiences ever to try to find preceptors. It added so much stress. I have a preceptor who is good and she allows me see most of your patients. I have two other preceptors who will only allow me to observe and they make it clear they are too busy to answer many questions. But I took what preceptors I could find, because 'beggars can't be choosers', which is a terrible sentiment when you are talking about an advanced education for an advanced career.
And my school does not do site visits. How can they? My clinical instructor oversees students in 3 states.
I'm not an APRN student but I have always found the notion of finding your own preceptor RIDICULOUS. That doesn't happen in med school or PA school, so why NP school? Its unprofessional.
Everybody is defending their school with "but it's the highest ranked in the nation"
a year from now they will be like "omg need women's health preceptor help me plzzzz"
nobody cares if your school is the highest rank. If you have to sit out a semester because the school isn't providing the full experience it is obviously not a good school. You can't blame the preceptors. Maybe the school should offer them benefit for taking students? I mean we pay enough tuition.
why shouldn't the burden be on the school? What do we pay them for then!? Jeez people are awful consumers and bend over to take it deep. If you want to take it deep that's fine by me but that makes it harder on the rest of the students who actually have some common sense when it comes to money. If you want to just hand out tuition dollars with no return I'll take some. I need to get my wife a 4wd SUV so she can drive in the snow to and from her medical school clinicals that her school actually set up for her.
I agree with those above. One of the reasons I chose my school was because it matched us with preceptors for our NP clinicals. I would not give my money to a school that left me hanging out int he cold to find my own.. I have also heard of students whose graduation was delayed due to a lack of preceptors. That is completely unacceptable.
I believe the previous posters have adequately addressed the main perceptions of job availability and quality of NPs out there now and to come.
My only bit of advice would be to think about the unproductiveness of being "offended". Be concerned, ask questions, but don't shut someone's opinion out because it's "offensive". Shore up your being with knowledge on the topic. Confront said professor if you like. Either way, you'll feel better if you've armed yourself with actual facts and not personal conjecture.
I do applaud you for asking practicing nurses about their opinions but don't rely on the opinions of random people on the internet.
All right, I'll throw in my opinion. I believe we will continue to see increased demand for NPs. Are we over-supplying? I think that's possible, and certainly when it comes to positions in larger cities who do not suffer as much of a shortage of primary care providers. I think one will always be able to work in rural unpopular areas.
Also be aware if you do have an unsatisfactory discussion with your lab professor, there are some (certainly not a majority) MDs that see NPs as a threat and hold them in poor regard. For one thing, there has been a lot of resistance from MD lobbying groups in allowing NPs independent practice. On the other hand, where I work in the NICU, the MDs seriously appreciate the neonatal NPs who pick up the bulk of the scut work and take the main call duties overnight.
Just because your professor is a jerk, doesn't mean he's wrong.
I work with plenty of great NPs and there is plenty of work to go around, but I don't think the current NP model can last. As others have pointed out there is quite a bit a variation in the caliber of both NP students and NP programs. Unfortunately, the best students and the best programs have the most to lose from the current "race to the bottom" NP program boom. How often do you see internet sidebar ads for NP programs for nurses with minimal experience and that specifically advertise the lack of work/clinicals/classroom time required?
Obviously not every program runs this way, but you can't expect the NP field as a whole to maintain credibility in a world where these programs are plastered everywhere and where the student pool continues to pull from less and less qualified applicants. The trend is completely unsustainable.
Is it a problem now? Obviously not. In 5 years? Probably still not an issue. But in 20...or 30...? I think by then we'll see real issues. You said you're just starting out in nursing school, so this is a timeline that could very well impact your career.
As a young, unhappy nurse myself considering career options, I can tell you I will NEVER go to NP school (for this and a few other reasons.) If I decide to go the mid-level/APP/whatever you want to call it route, I will go to PA school. Maybe it's just my geographic area, but I see far more opportunities for PAs. I see an educational model based in medical reality and not "nursing theory" and reflective journals, and I see a career path that is on the up-slope, not the down slope.
I work with several PAs who were former nurses, and they are all happy with the choice they made to jump off the NP bandwagon.
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