Maricopa Nursing CEP 2019 (Applicants for April 1st - May 31st)

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There is already a post for CEP 2019 Summer Start so I figured I would make a new post for those applying next round. I am curious to see how many people plan to apply and how competitive this round will be.

I am applying to PVCC/NAU with 84 points. Thank you to those who participate and good luck next round! ????

4 hours ago, CamMc said:

Hey @Apple-Core, I was just referring to the reason why some have been able to choose 3 Maricopa schools and why others have only be able to apply to 2, it looks like not all of the universities partner with all of the MCC schools. I definitely understand how the requirements part works ? Others had some questions about the how many schools you can apply to and it was my guess as to what may be the issue.

From my understanding, all of the Universities partner with all of the CCs. Why someone would only be allowed to opportunity to apply for 3 CCs is very odd - it has traditionally been 3 choices per applicant. That seems very unfair, because obviously everyone should have the same chance to get in.

Personally, if it was me, for those who only got 2 choices, I would contact the school and ask why.

I definitely agree it wouldn’t be fair to have some people be allowed to apply to 2 and others to 3. I attached a screen shot from the Franklin Pierce CEP brochure found on the maricopa nursing webpage. It says it was last updated June 2018, so perhaps things have changed.

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On ‎5‎/‎13‎/‎2019 at 10:13 PM, CamMc said:

I don't know for sure, but it may actually be because of the university, I had been looking at Franklin Pierce, because I already have the pre and co-req's and it's on the cheaper side, but it's only partnered with EMCC, GCC, and SCC, while I would prefer MCC. I'm not applying this time around and honestly not sure I will even do the CEP (I already have a bachelors and masters, so I'm better off doing the ADN and then getting an RN-MSN), but that would be my guess that it is because of the university.

I'm really surprised to hear that some Unis only partner with certain CCs? That's a new thing, because it used to be you could go with any of them. Since you already have your under-grad and grad degrees, I would definitely suggest going straight to the Masters with GCU, aside from anything that'll save you a bunch of $$!!

1 minute ago, CamMc said:

I definitely agree it wouldn’t be fair to have some people be allowed to apply to 2 and others to 3. I attached a screen shot from the Franklin Pierce CEP brochure found on the maricopa nursing webpage. It says it was last updated June 2018, so perhaps things have changed.

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Thank you! I'm really surprised. I have no idea why this change occurred. I can only assume from prior enrollment numbers, maybe? It really makes no sense since it is 100% online, so it shouldn't make any difference as to which CC you're in?

Yeah I have no clue why it would matter, but that was the only thing I could think of as why there would be a difference. I have looked into GCU and am considering it, but the concentrations they offer from what I can recall didn't really match up with what I have an interest in and I also have some concerns about the school being a religious based school. I have nothing against religion, but I worry about how that would impact what they teach in regards to class work. I know I saw that in their BSN program there's a class about using faith in medicine something along those lines. As a transgender man, I worry that I might personally not be accepted and/or I may encounter classwork or professors who disagree with what I know/believe to be true. I am working right now on retaking a lot of the pre and co-req's (A & P, micro, etc) even though I've taken them before, it was 10 years ago, so I want my knowledge to be fresh in my head. I'm going to be applying for the general ADN program in the next few weeks (taking the HESI on Monday ?) and do some research on what hospitals around here require in terms of RN vs BSN or higher.

On ‎5‎/‎17‎/‎2019 at 1:39 PM, CamMc said:

Yeah I have no clue why it would matter, but that was the only thing I could think of as why there would be a difference. I have looked into GCU and am considering it, but the concentrations they offer from what I can recall didn't really match up with what I have an interest in and I also have some concerns about the school being a religious based school. I have nothing against religion, but I worry about how that would impact what they teach in regards to class work. I know I saw that in their BSN program there's a class about using faith in medicine something along those lines. As a transgender man, I worry that I might personally not be accepted and/or I may encounter classwork or professors who disagree with what I know/believe to be true. I am working right now on retaking a lot of the pre and co-req's (A & P, micro, etc) even though I've taken them before, it was 10 years ago, so I want my knowledge to be fresh in my head. I'm going to be applying for the general ADN program in the next few weeks (taking the HESI on Monday ?) and do some research on what hospitals around here require in terms of RN vs BSN or higher.

Most hospitals around here prefer a BSN, but that doesn't mean you can't get a job with an ADN, especially if you already have degrees. Once you are working, many hospitals will help with the costs of the higher degrees in return for you staying with them for a certain number of years. Might be worth considering, purely from a financial point of view.

I understand your hesitation regarding the religious aspect of GCU, although I've never heard of it being an issue from the people I know how have gone there.

Good luck with the HESI - you'll rock it, it's pretty straight forward here in Maricopa. Just brush up on English and Math.

On 5/18/2019 at 7:07 PM, Apple-Core said:

Most hospitals around here prefer a BSN, but that doesn't mean you can't get a job with an ADN, especially if you already have degrees. Once you are working, many hospitals will help with the costs of the higher degrees in return for you staying with them for a certain number of years. Might be worth considering, purely from a financial point of view.

I understand your hesitation regarding the religious aspect of GCU, although I've never heard of it being an issue from the people I know how have gone there.

Good luck with the HESI - you'll rock it, it's pretty straight forward here in Maricopa. Just brush up on English and Math.

Thanks, I had been trying to figure out if that was the case around here, but looking at ads doesn't give much input on who actually gets hired. My plan is to continue working my non-nursing, pays well job for the next year at least while I re-take the pre-reqs and then hopefully do a CNA course before getting starting the RN program so that I can work as a CNA part-time while in nursing school. From looking around on here, I'm also starting to consider getting my RN and then getting a BSN from Capella. It sounds like I should be able to finish it pretty quickly and is reasonably priced. At the info session I went to at MCC they basically said most places are going to care more about where you got your training for the RN portion and less about where you get your BSN. If I can find a hospital/job that will help with both a BSN and an MSN that would be awesome, but I figure worst case, I'll get my RN paying out of pocket and then do an online RN-MSN program where I could take out more student loans if needed.

I'm glad to know you haven't heard anything about GCU, I think I've tried asking on here before, I honestly can't remember, but I feel like it's hard to actually know if they would be accepting of me and anyone else like me I may encounter while in school.

Thanks! I'm kind of actually excited for it, I tend to do well on these kinds of tests, I got a 99% on the NLN exam I had to take when I was in nursing school before, but that was 10 years ago. How well I do on the exam may also impact which route I take, if I do really well I may push myself to do the CEP program and I'm also considering the MEPN through UofA, but I've heard that a lot of the ABSN/MEPN programs are so condensed they may not offer the best experiences to be confident in nursing skills and Mesa CC has a super high pass rate on the NCLEX, so the only benefit of one of the direct entry into nursing program would be a shorted time frame (but higher costs and way less likely I'd be able to work during those times). Thanks for all the advice!!!

Hello everyone!

I just applied to the AAS-MSN at GCU. Put SCC, MCC, and GWCC as my community colleges. Applied with 85 points.

Best of luck to all!

I was hoping taking the HESI would help me decide if I should apply for the CEP, but I'm still torn (partly just because of the cost and having to take more classes at the same time). I feel I did really well on the HESI -96% on Math and 95% on the English portion, but because they deduct 10 points for failing a previous nursing program and my GPA from before wasn't the greatest, I'm sitting at I think about 78 points. I'm working on retaking a lot of the prerequisites just because I can guarantee I won't do well in nursing school trying to rely on information I barely learned the first time around 10 years ago. I can definitely email the adviser I have been talking to, but does anyone know if I turn in my application for the AAS program now and then take some of those pre-reqs and improve my GPA and then apply for the CEP maybe next Spring, so i could potentially start Jan 2021 instead of August 2021 given the estimated waitlist for the AAS program, would they take the updated scores into consideration?

12 minutes ago, CamMc said:

I was hoping taking the HESI would help me decide if I should apply for the CEP, but I'm still torn (partly just because of the cost and having to take more classes at the same time). I feel I did really well on the HESI -96% on Math and 95% on the English portion, but because they deduct 10 points for failing a previous nursing program and my GPA from before wasn't the greatest, I'm sitting at I think about 78 points. I'm working on retaking a lot of the prerequisites just because I can guarantee I won't do well in nursing school trying to rely on information I barely learned the first time around 10 years ago. I can definitely email the adviser I have been talking to, but does anyone know if I turn in my application for the AAS program now and then take some of those pre-reqs and improve my GPA and then apply for the CEP maybe next Spring, so i could potentially start Jan 2021 instead of August 2021 given the estimated waitlist for the AAS program, would they take the updated scores into consideration?

When I submitted my app with my advisor at SCC she made sure to put my best grades down for all of the necessary prerequisites, even the ones that do not count toward the calculated GPA. Because the CEP app is separate from the AAS app, I'm sure they will honor your highest earned grade.

An update for the traditional program -- I have been on the AAS wait list since Jan 2018. Yesterday the placement team gave me a predicted admission date of Fall 2020 or Spring 2021...! (I put down SCC, MCC, GWCC, CGCC, and Phoenix on that app)

Went this morning to turn in my cep app 87.2 for mcc/asu!!! Good luck to all applying!!!

Hi all! I applied at MCC/GCU MSN program with 83.9 points! Anyone else applying for the GCU program?

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