LPN VS BSN VS ADN?

Mijourney · Jan 26, 2001

Hi Subq. Perhaps the title of your topic should be what one considers the best pathway for becoming a successful nurse. The vs. thing seems to frequently cause a stir when it is used, because nurses construe that to mean that one nurse is superior over another. I'll have to keep a conscious check on myself when I use that term.

I agree that starting as an aide is very helpful and highly recommended in most cases to get a glimpse of what the practice of nursing is all about. But, keep in mind that an aide's (since that title is emphasized in your post) view of nursing is frequently shaped by their background, their goals, self-esteem, sense of self-respect, and the limited exposure they may be getting by working in one or two settings with the same people. As with managers, there are aides that have been working in the field for years that would not make quality nurses.

iris · Jan 27, 2001

Mijourney...not to stir any trouble, but sometimes I think when "some " RN's see the RN title linked with LPN/Aide they tend to lose focus of whats being discussed.

I completely understood where SUBQ was coming from.

I THINK YOU MISSED THE POINT!!!!!!

Don't read to much into it.

No offense taken I hope.

LOPAIDNURSE · Jan 27, 2001

I HAVE BEEN AN LPN FOR 23 YEARS.I HAVE LOVED NURSING TILL THE PAST 5 YRS. I HAVE DONE ICU, SP CARE AND YRS OF HOSP NURSING. I AM NOW CONTINUING MY EDUCATION SINCE MY CHILDREN ARE GROWN BUT NOT IN THE NURSING FIELD. I WOULD PUT MY EXPERIENCE AGAINST MOST OTHER NURSES. I RESPECT ALL WHO GET THEIR DEGREES BUT EXPERIENCE CAN'T BE OVERLOOKED. I TRULY CARE FOR OTHER NURSES DURING THIS WORST OF TIMES AND SAY BE AS GOOD TO YOURSELF AS YOU WOULD ONE OF YOUR PATIENTS.

eagleriver · Jan 27, 2001

Originally posted by Mijourney:
Hi Subq. Perhaps the title of your topic should be what one considers the best pathway for becoming a successful nurse. The vs. thing seems to frequently cause a stir when it is used, because nurses construe that to mean that one nurse is superior over another. I'll have to keep a conscious check on myself when I use that term.

I agree that starting as an aide is very helpful and highly recommended in most cases to get a glimpse of what the practice of nursing is all about. But, keep in mind that an aide's (since that title is emphasized in your post) view of nursing is frequently shaped by their background, their goals, self-esteem, sense of self-respect, and the limited exposure they may be getting by working in one or two settings with the same people. As with managers, there are aides that have been working in the field for years that would not make quality nurses.

I have been a CNA and HHA for about nine years. I finally got into the BSN program at FSU. I can easily understand why some folks stop their education at the Associates level due to life circumstances such as money, family responsibilities or whatever.

However, if both options exist for a person, they'd have to be an economic masochist to choose an ADN over a BSN. Besides, even if there's a deficiency in the clinical training of BSNs, they will still end up in charge. Isn't it better to be the dingbat-in-charge (DIC) than the DIC's subordinate?

chili2641 · Jan 27, 2001

Lopaidnurse,

I have worked as a CNA for several years. I like you,chose to pursue a bachelors degree in a different field. What are you studying in college?

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Nursing assistant

Diane Miller · Jan 27, 2001

I read the opinion concerning LPN vs BSN vs ADN. I think starting out as an aide is a great idea, but for a different reason. I think that aides are unappreciated. I worked as an aide in the '70's, and it taught me how to be compassionate toward others better than any other lesson, and that my position does not place me "above" others, and that I really can pitch in and help the aides when they need it, granted as time allows. I also learned more my first year as an RN from the best LPN/Nurse than from any RN I encountered. Nurses eat their young, and I find it sad. Nursing is more than cleaning up poop, urine, and dealing with demanding patients. If we stop to listen, we might be amazed at what more we can learn. I haven't always been happy with my choice of professions, but I certainly found more fulfillment when I learned to listen. The saying "there but by the grace of God go I" is one I keep in the back of my mind daily. Who knows, someday, someone may be cleaning up my poop, urine, and dealing with my demands, and I would have rather trained them to be compassionate than to worry about the smell, and amount of money they make on any given day.

LOPAIDNURSE · Jan 28, 2001

HI CHILI, I AM WORKING ON MY EMT FOR OUR AMBULANCE SERVICE WE OWN THEN I WANT TO DO SOME BUSINESS COURSES. BEST TO YOU IN YOUR EDUCATION ADVENTURE.

Mijourney · Jan 30, 2001

Originally posted by iris:
Mijourney...not to stir any trouble, but sometimes I think when "some " RN's see the RN title linked with LPN/Aide they tend to lose focus of whats being discussed.
I completely understood where SUBQ was coming from.
I THINK YOU MISSED THE POINT!!!!!!
Don't read to much into it.
No offense taken I hope.

Hi iris. Since I don't come on this bb looking for trouble I do not take offense at your comment, and I do agree that I did miss the point. My intention was to not get caught up as I did when I first came to this bb about 1 yr ago into the title issue. I have essentially overlooked many of the most recent this vs. that thing, because I'm firm in my beliefs of where I think nursing should be but am aware that most don't agree. I will readily acknowledge that nursing's diversity should be one of its strong suits. Unfortunately, that's not the case. I continue to see posts requesting clarification of titles or wanting to know which is better or best. As with a previousr poster, I received some of the best training from LPNs when I first started nursing. Many of the RNs I worked under were slobs for lack of a better term. I don't know if the RNs felt that I was a competitor or what.