Why Does It Seem That RN's Hate Us and Hospitals Don't Believe In Us??

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Im a new PN grad and have been a STNA (state tested nurse assistant) for 7 years; but as a graduate it seems that RN's are threatened by PN's or feel that we don't know anything and hospitals dont want us, at least that's been my experience with my job search here in Ohio and Ga and I don't understand why. We as PN's have to learn @least 80% of the material that a student in a ADN program learns in 11 months vs. 2 yrs, so what makes us different besides the rate of pay, which really isn't any different at least in Oh where a UNEXPERIENCED LPN makes minimally TO START 16.75 w/o differential and more for being IV and CPR certified and a UNEXPERIENCEC RN makes IN OHIO makes 17.00/hr. I don't want to come across as confrontational because that's not why Im writing. I just want to get some other points of view from LPN'S AND RN'S to help me understand.:confused:

Specializes in 5 yrs OR, ASU Pre-Op 2 yr. ER.
i make about 14 an hr (base plus 5 yrs experience) so that should motivate ANY LPN to go back for the RN. :thankya:

If money were my sole purpose for going back to school (it's very far down on the list, actually), i'd need to work on way more than my academic education.

I have been an LPN for 30 years and if I could challenge the boards, I would. (Because I passed 2 different NCLEX-RN test books without a problem.) I love learning and the higher rate of pay but I don't have the time to go back to school. Do I claim to know as much as an RN? Not really, but maybe enough to pass the board. Experience and a quick mind is a great education. A true desire to help your patients and a team spirit is the best education. I have always worked well with all of the medical team because title isn't important to me. I respect everyone and help anyone. And I continue to learn daily from my coworkers. Whenever I run across a cocky nurse or doctor, I just feel like it is a personal problem on their part. If there are duties that I am unqualified to perform, I simply trade off with someone who IS qualified. There is always something I can do to help them. We are all talented/skilled in different areas and I think we should focus on how we can best serve our profession. I am proud of all of the nurses and what they do. It is an admirable profession that I am proud to be a part of. Not just anyone can do what we do. I think we are ALL SPECIAL!!

We are one big team and for the most part we get along well. Everyone has their job and we are all indispensable. Disrespect says more about the person handing it out than the person receiving it.

I have worked as an LPN at same long term facility for 24 years and all those

years I have never met an incomptant LPN graduate but new RN graduate!!!

Some I wonder how they ever got their licsences!! I have talked this over with other nurses I work with and they all agree...I don't know if its the clinical training or if Lpn school is harder. No offense to Rns but this is true!!

Specializes in Peds stepdown ICU.
I have worked as an LPN at same long term facility for 24 years and all those

years I have never met an incomptant LPN graduate but new RN graduate!!!

Some I wonder how they ever got their licsences!! I have talked this over with other nurses I work with and they all agree...I don't know if its the clinical training or if Lpn school is harder. No offense to Rns but this is true!!

Sorry, but this is not widely true for everyone. I work with a wonderful bunch of RN's...whom I both respect and look to for advice. This is a two way street good LPN's--not so good LPN's, Good RN's not so good RN's...but to entirely label LPN's as "better"...that is but an illusion. RN's have more education..this however should not give them a complex, just as LPN's should not feel insecure. An ideal thought that will unfortunately never happen because there will always be these posts and this RN v LPN stuff. We are all nurses working for the same goal--positive patient outcomes.

Nobody hates you. I am a BSN/RN with plenty of experience under my belt. I think what makes us nervous, or me, rather, is that we are in charge of delegated to you, and you are working under our liscense. Hope that helps clear things up for you

Specializes in Pediatrics.
we as pn's have to learn @least 80% of the material that a student in a adn program learns in 11 months

if this is the case, then why do lpns need to go to at least 2, if not 3 semesters of the adn program to become an rn?? (this is the case where i teach, and from what i've heard elsewhere in my vicinity).

i have absolutely no problem with good lpns, just like i do have a problem with rns who are irresponsible, lazy, lack accountability and are not team players. i haven't worked with that many of the (lpns). in a facility where i used to work as staff (and then supervised) the roles were almost interchangeable. it was skilled/ltc for peds. the major difference was not giving them pts with ivs. why? i don't know, it was their policy (dumb, imo).

there are good lpns, adns, bsns, msns and phds:nurse: . and there are bad ones

Nobody hates you. I am a BSN/RN with plenty of experience under my belt. I think what makes us nervous, or me, rather, is that we are in charge of delegated to you, and you are working under our liscense. Hope that helps clear things up for you

In the province that I work in, I work under my own license and insurance, not an RN's. My patient, my responsibility, my license on the line.

I think the difficulties in my area are largely due to the pay differential (roughly $13/hour) between the RN and the LPN. On our specialty units, (ie Maternity, Dialysis) the orientation is the same, the course of instruction the same, the only orientation difference is the meds courses, but then on the Dialysis units the LPNs do their own IV antibiotics, the RN's do the IV push meds and from what co-workers have told me they don't use those skills all that often (RN or LPN).

LPN's work under their own liscense.

Nobody hates you. I am a BSN/RN with plenty of experience under my belt. I think what makes us nervous, or me, rather, is that we are in charge of delegated to you, and you are working under our liscense. Hope that helps clear things up for you
Specializes in 5 yrs OR, ASU Pre-Op 2 yr. ER.

(Here we go again)

To bklpn- depending on which state you work in. In NC, LPNs work under the RN's liscense.

Specializes in Case mgmt., rehab, (CRRN), LTC & psych.

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