Published Apr 9, 2008
parabone
9 Posts
hi
can someone provide a list of uk hospitals( preferrable private hospitals) willing to recruit overseas nurses?
ZippyGBR, BSN, RN
1,038 Posts
few if any as none EU or otherwise right to work in the Uk peopel will struggle to get work permits due to a relative lack of a shortage at present
RGN1
1,700 Posts
Hospital's are unable to obtain work permits for overseas nurses except if thay are from the EU or if they are highly skilled in areas considered low staffed.
I think that's Neonatal intensive care & the like at the moment.
Hopitals here don't "petition" inthe way that the US does. You have to first apply to the NMC (Nursing & Midwifery Council) who will take a lot of money from you to check out your credentials & then you find you're in an endless queue waiting to get on an approved adaptation program. That is aside from the above fact about work permits not being available!
Trust me the UK, like the USA, is not the way to go at the moment for foreign trained nurses.
MandaAnda
142 Posts
Like RGN1 said, you have to be from the EU or considered highly skilled. And while all bands of nurses used to qualify for the HSMP (Highly Skilled Migrant Programme), I think that it is only Band 7 and higher at the moment (which means lots of experience needed, as you'd be managing a lot). Also, while UK neonatal units are crying out for nurses, I'm pretty sure the above will still stand on that. And, as far as the government sees it, we have enough adult branch, child branch and midwifery students to fill that need (although I don't agree at all...still).
Savonarola
54 Posts
As you are from Romania and this is an EU country since 2007 you are allowed to work in the UK.
Silverdragon102, BSN
1 Article; 39,477 Posts
Still required to go through NMC though to register before they can work, all RN's have to have a PIN
Of course but that shouldn´t be a problem for EU nuses. The whole process took me 4 months (I am from Germany).
karenG
1,049 Posts
in which case, you were lucky!! as previously stated, unless you have a skill which is need, such as neonatal nursing, the chances of getting a work permit are very slim. we have enough nurses here who currently are unable to find work so until that changes, getting work permits is going to be very difficult.
a citizen of another EU state doesn't need a work permit, they just need to be on the NMC register as well as / instead of their home nation register....
he whole work permit thing is unlikely to change given that EU nurses with Directive complaint education don't need a work permit just to meet NMC registration standards ....
plus those who are currently on substantive contracts with work permits- so if they are happy to stay put will stay put / within the same trust potentially until they retire
MeditationPeace
46 Posts
a citizen of another EU state doesn't need a work permit, they just need to be on the NMC register as well as / instead of their home nation register....The whole work permit thing is unlikely to change given that EU nurses with Directive complaint education don't need a work permit just to meet NMC registration standards ....]This is correct. The last time I posted a note here, I was just finishing the Overseas Nurses Programme, July 2007. I'm a Registered Nurse from the USA. I received my PIN number but could not then find a job because I was from outside the EU. Any employer willing to go for a work permit for me would have had to work long and hard to prove to the Home Office there was a really good reason for hiring me over a British nurse or any other EU nurse. That simply wouldn't have happened because I am not a manager level nurse (above Band 6). There is the shortage list of nursing areas but I wasn't experienced (or interested in) in Audiology, Sleep Studies, NICU (SCBU), Theatre, etc. I just wanted to work in something like my 20+ years of labour and delivery nursing in the USA. The details of this shortage list are on the NMC website, as well as the (I believe it was) Visas4UK website. It's a search and uncover mission to find the correct pages.The current Home Office ruling went into effect in late summer 2006, because of the fact that British graduates were not finding nursing jobs due to the large numbers of foreign nurses who entered the UK and got jobs in the previous few years. Believe me, this is accurate information. I practically got on a first-name basis with some of the NMC staff in the London office due to the number of phone calls and emails I put them through! I was lucky enough, however, to be accepted into an 18 month BSc in Midwifery course that started just a few weeks after my 'student nurse' visa (which was required for my ONP course) was to run out.So now I just have to hope that by the time I qualify as a midwife next summer, I'll be able to be hired by my Trust. I am just loving being able to deliver (catch?) babies now instead of calling a doctor to say the woman is ready to birth!This saga ran well over a year in the preparation stage and cost me over $10,000 for having an agency find me a nursing home to do my supervised placement; pay the University tuition for the ONP; cover the many visa applications and refusals when plans fell through; etc. What a nightmare. You just wouldn't believe the problems and expenses encountered.I'll just say it's been worth it because I love this country so much and can finally practice the sort of midwifery care I'd always wanted to do as an obstetrics nurse in the States. I miss my family (grown kids) but am so happy to be away from George Bush. (By the way, I offer you my apologies for his behaviour, as the American citizen I am. I did not, however, vote for him....either time.)
The whole work permit thing is unlikely to change given that EU nurses with Directive complaint education don't need a work permit just to meet NMC registration standards ....]
This is correct. The last time I posted a note here, I was just finishing the Overseas Nurses Programme, July 2007. I'm a Registered Nurse from the USA. I received my PIN number but could not then find a job because I was from outside the EU. Any employer willing to go for a work permit for me would have had to work long and hard to prove to the Home Office there was a really good reason for hiring me over a British nurse or any other EU nurse. That simply wouldn't have happened because I am not a manager level nurse (above Band 6). There is the shortage list of nursing areas but I wasn't experienced (or interested in) in Audiology, Sleep Studies, NICU (SCBU), Theatre, etc. I just wanted to work in something like my 20+ years of labour and delivery nursing in the USA. The details of this shortage list are on the NMC website, as well as the (I believe it was) Visas4UK website. It's a search and uncover mission to find the correct pages.
The current Home Office ruling went into effect in late summer 2006, because of the fact that British graduates were not finding nursing jobs due to the large numbers of foreign nurses who entered the UK and got jobs in the previous few years. Believe me, this is accurate information. I practically got on a first-name basis with some of the NMC staff in the London office due to the number of phone calls and emails I put them through!
I was lucky enough, however, to be accepted into an 18 month BSc in Midwifery course that started just a few weeks after my 'student nurse' visa (which was required for my ONP course) was to run out.
So now I just have to hope that by the time I qualify as a midwife next summer, I'll be able to be hired by my Trust. I am just loving being able to deliver (catch?) babies now instead of calling a doctor to say the woman is ready to birth!
This saga ran well over a year in the preparation stage and cost me over $10,000 for having an agency find me a nursing home to do my supervised placement; pay the University tuition for the ONP; cover the many visa applications and refusals when plans fell through; etc. What a nightmare. You just wouldn't believe the problems and expenses encountered.
I'll just say it's been worth it because I love this country so much and can finally practice the sort of midwifery care I'd always wanted to do as an obstetrics nurse in the States. I miss my family (grown kids) but am so happy to be away from George Bush. (By the way, I offer you my apologies for his behaviour, as the American citizen I am. I did not, however, vote for him....either time.)
Recent changes indicate that midwifery has been taken off the shortage occupation list. Here is a link to the thread I posted on the changes. Admittedly things may change by the time you qualify but have had posts of midwives in the UK struggling to find work https://allnurses.com/forums/f124/changes-shortage-occupation-list-uk-307731.html
abiola07
19 Posts
a citizen of another EU state doesn't need a work permit, they just need to be on the NMC register as well as / instead of their home nation register....The whole work permit thing is unlikely to change given that EU nurses with Directive complaint education don't need a work permit just to meet NMC registration standards ....]This is correct. The last time I posted a note here, I was just finishing the Overseas Nurses Programme, July 2007. I'm a Registered Nurse from the USA. I received my PIN number but could not then find a job because I was from outside the EU. Any employer willing to go for a work permit for me would have had to work long and hard to prove to the Home Office there was a really good reason for hiring me over a British nurse or any other EU nurse. That simply wouldn't have happened because I am not a manager level nurse (above Band 6). There is the shortage list of nursing areas but I wasn't experienced (or interested in) in Audiology, Sleep Studies, NICU (SCBU), Theatre, etc. I just wanted to work in something like my 20+ years of labour and delivery nursing in the USA. The details of this shortage list are on the NMC website, as well as the (I believe it was) Visas4UK website. It's a search and uncover mission to find the correct pages.The current Home Office ruling went into effect in late summer 2006, because of the fact that British graduates were not finding nursing jobs due to the large numbers of foreign nurses who entered the UK and got jobs in the previous few years. Believe me, this is accurate information. I practically got on a first-name basis with some of the NMC staff in the London office due to the number of phone calls and emails I put them through! I was lucky enough, however, to be accepted into an 18 month BSc in Midwifery course that started just a few weeks after my 'student nurse' visa (which was required for my ONP course) was to run out.So now I just have to hope that by the time I qualify as a midwife next summer, I'll be able to be hired by my Trust. I am just loving being able to deliver (catch?) babies now instead of calling a doctor to say the woman is ready to birth!This saga ran well over a year in the preparation stage and cost me over $10,000 for having an agency find me a nursing home to do my supervised placement; pay the University tuition for the ONP; cover the many visa applications and refusals when plans fell through; etc. What a nightmare. You just wouldn't believe the problems and expenses encountered.I'll just say it's been worth it because I love this country so much and can finally practice the sort of midwifery care I'd always wanted to do as an obstetrics nurse in the States. I miss my family (grown kids) but am so happy to be away from George Bush. (By the way, I offer you my apologies for his behaviour, as the American citizen I am. I did not, however, vote for him....either time.) hi every one,thanks for this information.i am about to start my onp and need information in case i need a student nurse visa to do ONP.I have gotten a school and was told i would be contacted if my visa can be used. Which agency helped you Gailmaries to process all u mentioned.i have critical care nursing experience and hope that i would gain employment with this since its still on the occupational shortage list.i need information abt how to get a student nurse visa i case i am told i can only do ONp with it.Thanks
hi every one,thanks for this information.i am about to start my onp and need information in case i need a student nurse visa to do ONP.I have gotten a school and was told i would be contacted if my visa can be used. Which agency helped you Gailmaries to process all u mentioned.i have critical care nursing experience and hope that i would gain employment with this since its still on the occupational shortage list.i need information abt how to get a student nurse visa i case i am told i can only do ONp with it.
Thanks