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ruby_jane has 10 years experience as a BSN, RN.

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18 minutes ago, Flare said:

Teachers can be such germophobes.  Uh... you work with tiny snot factories (and some not so tiny).  Yes, you may get sick.  Take some echinacea, wash your hands and keep swimming.  Go use your prep to drink some herbal tea and think about how the school nurse doesn't get her "contracted" preps.  😥  

I really wanted to like this but the new system says I've liked things so flagrantly today that I cannot like any more!

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Flare is a ASN, BSN and works as a School nurse firefighter.

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8 minutes ago, ruby_jane said:

I really wanted to like this but the new system says I've liked things so flagrantly today that I cannot like any more!

you're a serial "liker"!  Outstanding!!  It just goes on to prove the point of how dang supportive we are of one another!  Joe V will need to make some accommodations us!  No eating our young at this nurse's station

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BiscuitRN has 4 years experience as a BSN, RN and works as a School Nurse.

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51 minutes ago, Flare said:

Teachers can be such germophobes.  Uh... you work with tiny snot factories (and some not so tiny).  Yes, you may get sick.  Take some echinacea, wash your hands and keep swimming.  Go use your prep to drink some herbal tea and think about how the school nurse doesn't get her "contracted" preps.  😥  

Our teachers are stocked with Clorox wipes.  I'll let them know a student is going home and suggest a wipe down of their desk and door handles.  Teacher will say "oh the cleaners will do that tonight."  Then 72 hours later the teacher is getting their temp checked in my office and loudly wondering how they got sick especially since I never get sick.  GEE! I WONDER!

Must be my school-nurse-germ-fighting super powers.

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SchlNrsKrn has 26 years experience and works as a School Nurse.

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You can remind them that part of the school nurses job isn't to send kids home, it's to keep them in school if they are well enough to learn. 

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MrNurse(x2) has 28 years experience as a ADN and works as a RN.

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You could always say the teacher isn't failing/ passing enough students. This is exactly the same thing she is doing to you. Our school sent students home a lot before I came on, now it is rare to need to send a student home. My role here is to keep everyone safe and to keep their donkeys in classes. 

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Yep you are not alone.  I have been with this school district for 3 school years and I felt the same way.  Hold your ground and trust me things will get better soon.  And it's so good to have Administration on your side.  You are the nurse on duty and I'm sure you have been doing your job well.  Just explain to the teachers why you didn't send student home and keep it moving.  Hold on just a little while longer.😉😊 

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NutmeggeRN has 25 years experience and works as a HS Nurse.

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17 hours ago, Flare said:

you're a serial "liker"!  Outstanding!!  It just goes on to prove the point of how dang supportive we are of one another!  Joe V will need to make some accommodations us!  No eating our young at this nurse's station

Better a serial liker than a serial licker...

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imaneedmycoffeefirst89 has 3 years experience.

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19 hours ago, LikeTheDeadSea said:

I think this is similar to many of our first-year experiences in a school setting.  I've talked with other new nurses that it's almost like your building is trying to test how far they can push you. If they can take advantage and get a student causing disruptions out for a day, some people will use whatever they can to make it happen.

 

Hold your ground - sounds like your administration is on board with you.

This.

Stand your ground. Set your boundaries. Of course, if they have concerns about a student you sent back, then yeah hear them out. However, YOU are the MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL. You know how to assess, and if you don't see a reason to send a child home, then explain it to them.

This is my second year in school nursing and it has been much better than my first. 

Also know your policies because saying "per policy...." always helps in many situations.

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ruby_jane has 10 years experience as a BSN, RN.

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19 hours ago, MrNurse(x2) said:

You could always say the teacher isn't failing/ passing enough students. This is exactly the same thing she is doing to you. Our school sent students home a lot before I came on, now it is rare to need to send a student home. My role here is to keep everyone safe and to keep their donkeys in classes. 

This is funny, but right on. Teachers don't completely understand us and we don't understand them. But I do not question how a teacher teaches, at least not out loud. Maybe to y'all. Maybe in my head. Hope you now have enough ammo, OP, to feel good about the meeting.

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I think this is all good! I was pulled into the meeting mid-day and after this teacher and principal had been talking already, so I'm not sure what was said before I walked in. The only thing they asked me for was a consolidated guidelines list regarding self-care and when to see the nurse/call the nurse. Which is fine (this was something I had sent out already of course, but it gives me an excuse to make time to update it). And I'll start enforcing the nurse pass! The point I tried to make is that it helps me if I know what the teacher is seeing, and I don't get that without the nurse pass (unless the teacher walks them down, which is pretty rare). And the pass is something I can use as a follow-up tool. We will see how this plays out. Thanks for the votes of confidence!

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OldDude works as a School Nurse.

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Welcome Gertie!! Only here can you get "in the trenches" and sincere advise from those who've been there and done that. The only thing I can add to such excellent input is that I can't add anything!! 

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Amethya has 5 years experience and works as a Certified Medical Assistant.

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I understand your struggles. First, I would see what your principal has to say. If anything is not fixed, then I would try your head nurse, they have bigger say so than us sometimes.

I went through the same things too my first year and a lot of "Well the last MA did it like this." and it was frustrating. Finally during my second year, I got more of a "I don't care and I'll do what I want because I'm the medical aide here now and she's gone." I was given more freedom and my opinions mattered more.  It's my 3rd year now and it's gotten better. My rules have been implemented since the beginning of the year, thanks to the new AP helping me. I am the medical authority here and I don't let anyone forget that. And I successfully erased everyone's memories of the last Medical aides. NO one remembers them and it's like I been here forever.

 

I wish you luck and remember things get better!

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