visa screen and excelsior exams

  1. I am a nurse from Germany. In 2002 I was approved by the NY board of nursing to take the passed the NCLEX-RN , which I passed, and have been working for the last 2 years with a work permit at a NYC hospital which is sponsoring me for a green card. I passed the english exam required for the visa screen but last month was told by ICHP that my German nursing education was 'deficient' in 2 areas (child nursing and psychiatric nursing) and that i need to enroll in a nursing school and take these courses.

    Since I work full time, this is essentially impossible. Excelsior College offers a distance learning program for exams in these 2 areas and I am wondering if ICHP will accept this to fulfill their visa screen requirements. I have tried repeatedly, by both email and phone, to get an answer from them but the person I speak with either has no clue about what the requirement actually is, or doesn't even reply. Needless to say, I am both very anxious and frustrated.

    Any help from anyone of you would be GREATLY appreciated!!!!
  2. Visit firebird profile page

    About firebird

    Joined: Dec '04; Posts: 5

    11 Comments

  3. by   gnom
    Hi!

    Sorry, i don't get-it seems that you worked for 2 years without Visa Screen??? Is it possible?
    Thanx,
  4. by   firebird
    Quote from gnom
    Hi!

    Sorry, i don't get-it seems that you worked for 2 years without Visa Screen??? Is it possible?
    Thanx,
    yes. once i passed the nclex, i was given a nursing liscense (NY state), went looking for a sponsor (hospital)...they have submitted the green card application (ie change of status from an F-1 visa) and obtained the work permit for me that allows me to work while the green card application (including visa screen) is processed. probably the work permit becomes invalid if the visa screen/green card application is denied which is why i am so concerned to understand what it is they want from me (the excelsior question).

    good luck
  5. by   gnom
    Quote from firebird
    yes. once i passed the nclex, i was given a nursing liscense (NY state), went looking for a sponsor (hospital)...they have submitted the green card application (ie change of status from an F-1 visa) and obtained the work permit for me that allows me to work while the green card application (including visa screen) is processed. probably the work permit becomes invalid if the visa screen/green card application is denied which is why i am so concerned to understand what it is they want from me (the excelsior question).

    good luck
    Thanx and good luck to you in you "struggle"
  6. by   suzanne4
    Where will you be doing your clinicals? This is an area that is required for the Visa Screen Certificate...........you must have theory as well as clinical hours in an approved school of nursing.

    I would check to see if there are any weekend programs around you are something that has a set one or two day schedule in your area. This may suffice with CGFNS, otherwise, they can cancel out your working.........
  7. by   firebird
    thanks for the input. actually, they (ichp) specifically only want me to fulfill THEORETICAL, not clinical, in these two areas. this is why I thought the excelsior exams might suffice.



    Quote from suzanne4
    Where will you be doing your clinicals? This is an area that is required for the Visa Screen Certificate...........you must have theory as well as clinical hours in an approved school of nursing.

    I would check to see if there are any weekend programs around you are something that has a set one or two day schedule in your area. This may suffice with CGFNS, otherwise, they can cancel out your working.........
  8. by   suzanne4
    I would get it in writing from CGFNS before using Excelsior to meet the requirements. That is the only way that I would consider their program for your needs. Otherwise, they could always change after you have begun.

    Good luck...............
  9. by   suzanne4
    Quote from gnom
    Hi!

    Sorry, i don't get-it seems that you worked for 2 years without Visa Screen??? Is it possible?
    Thanx,
    Remember that Visa Screen just became a mandatory requirement for all nurses fairly recently. It was only required in the past for a green card applicant only. So you could have come to the US on an H1-B visa for two years, it wasn't needed, then when your documents were submitted for a green card, you just needed to have the Certificate when you had your interview. Now that has all changed.
  10. by   firebird
    right you are..problem is that i can't seem to get ANY information from cgfns/ichp. do you have any suggestion or know of a specific person to contact there so that i might be more successful? I have sent numerous emails to support@cgfns and support@ichp which went unanswered. those i have talked to by phone are completely uninformed. THANKS SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME!


    Quote from suzanne4
    I would get it in writing from CGFNS before using Excelsior to meet the requirements. That is the only way that I would consider their program for your needs. Otherwise, they could always change after you have begun.

    Good luck...............
  11. by   suzanne4
    Quote from firebird
    right you are..problem is that i can't seem to get ANY information from cgfns/ichp. do you have any suggestion or know of a specific person to contact there so that i might be more successful? I have sent numerous emails to support@cgfns and support@ichp which went unanswered. those i have talked to by phone are completely uninformed. THANKS SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME!
    If you go to CGFNS website, look under the section that says administration and you will get specific e-mail addresses listed there.

    Please let me know what you find out...........
  12. by   firebird
    suzanne:

    tomorrow i will be making a major effort to get some answers from them. will definately let you know the out come. meanwhile, i very much appreciate your interest and attention to my (and everyone else's) troubles here. are you a nurse? are you american? just curious.....



    Quote from suzanne4
    If you go to CGFNS website, look under the section that says administration and you will get specific e-mail addresses listed there.

    Please let me know what you find out...........
  13. by   suzanne4
    Quote from firebird
    suzanne:

    tomorrow i will be making a major effort to get some answers from them. will definately let you know the out come. meanwhile, i very much appreciate your interest and attention to my (and everyone else's) troubles here. are you a nurse? are you american? just curious.....
    I am an American nurse, currently back in the US, who owns a school in Thailand for training nurses for working in the US or taking care of English speaking patients in Southeast Asia.

close