student nurse fed up with the NHS - page 2

I am a student nurse who qualifies in 2 weeks and at the minute i do not have a job to go to, neither are ther eany jobs advertised for band 5 staff nurses. the trust in which i have done my... Read More

  1. by   Silverdragon102
    Quote from madwife2002
    It is easy for others to throw stones, they are probably envious that they havent got the courage to walk away because it is not easy to make a stand and do what is right. Go with your gut feeling and make sure you do an informal visit before you work anywhere else. I always do an informal visit and wont even go for interview if it doesnt feel good. It is a bit like buying a house-you get vibes when you visit.

    really good advice. I too also do informal visits to get the vibe of the place and try to find out what it is like to work there
  2. by   eternalsunshine
    Quote from babes690
    I am a student nurse who qualifies in 2 weeks and at the minute i do not have a job to go to, neither are ther eany jobs advertised for band 5 staff nurses. the trust in which i have done my training ( Mid yorkshire) has just announced that the 340 jobs which it had frozen they are scrapping all together now, so it doesn't look like there is a chance of me getting one in the near future as they are meking people redundent as well. i am just so annoyed that i have spent 3 years doing all of this training and obtaining my BSc and now there are no rewards for it at all. it seams daft to me that they are still training nurses when there are no joobs for them. we have spoken tio university and all they have said is that we should not worry, and that we will get a job some where! but NHS professionals are not even giving out bank contracts at the minute.

    is there anybody else in this situation and what have you done about it
    Hi Babes
    I am just about to start my final year and already have accepted that there will be job when I qualify, there has already being a waiting list compiled of the two cohorts before me who are still waiting for a job so there is no hope for me! I decided to start looking now and have just secured a job with my local hospice, only as bank care assistant but I am hoping that this may lead to a permanenet role when I qualify. Hy hubby and I plan to move to Florida at some stage to buy our first home so I am trying to find out as much as possible what I would need to do do secure a job in Fl rather than here! Also, my base ward, the morale is so low which makes me so sad, as all the staff are totally not appreciated and some of them are amazing nurses, I can only see the situation getting worse, as the NHS is in such financial ruin and that is not something you can repair overnight. I really hope you find something babe, what not register with a nursing agency as well, you may get work as an agency nurse in a hospital which is another way of getting your foot in the door and making some new contacts. Good luck!
    Sunshine :wink2:
  3. by   Denise25
    I was watching on GMTV this morning all about shortages in jobs etc in the NHS. It's just so sad that you work so hard, then no jobs available. It used to be that you were guaranteed a job in nursing!
    When i graduated 5 years ago in Marketing Management...........it took 2 years to get a position, but I had to move from Scotland to London to gain this experience! That was very disheartening, but eventually you get something!
    I am now about to start the Post Grad in nursing. I've prepared myself for possibly not getting a job straight away once I qualify, but I've got a part time job in a nursing home.........so that's something!

    It's like this with teaching....teachers struggle to get a job once qualified but they are supposedly short staffed.

    Maybe a very silly suggestion, but why aren't the government getting a pay cut......the lottery funds ( extra money) going to NHS and why didn't Richard Branson get to take over the Lottery because I'm sure he would have invested the money more wisely!!

    I know nursing is about politics, but I feel the Government just does not have it's priorities right one little bit. I think it's very important to have money given to museums etc, but a % of money should be given every single week from the lottery to the NHS. This is lives we are talking about here!

    Tina.......sounds like you need to get the faith back in yourself. Sometimes things get on top of you.........so much that you take everything that everyone says the wrong way and personally! This isn't your fault......just the way you are feeling, but you should feel proud in yourself that you have made it through the 3 years and haven't left mid way! Build yourself back up and I'm sure something will be around the corner that you will enjoy!

    Denise xx
  4. by   TinaK
    Quote from madwife2002
    It is easy for others to throw stones, they are probably envious that they havent got the courage to walk away because it is not easy to make a stand and do what is right. Go with your gut feeling and make sure you do an informal visit before you work anywhere else. I always do an informal visit and wont even go for interview if it doesnt feel good. It is a bit like buying a house-you get vibes when you visit.

    Hi madwife

    Yes that is good advice, I should have thought to have done an informal visit initially but it didnt' cross my mind , but thanks for the advice, it is something I will make sure I do in the future for any upcoming nursing posts that I apply for!

    Tina K
  5. by   TinaK
    Quote from Denise25
    I was watching on GMTV this morning all about shortages in jobs etc in the NHS. It's just so sad that you work so hard, then no jobs available. It used to be that you were guaranteed a job in nursing!
    When i graduated 5 years ago in Marketing Management...........it took 2 years to get a position, but I had to move from Scotland to London to gain this experience! That was very disheartening, but eventually you get something!
    I am now about to start the Post Grad in nursing. I've prepared myself for possibly not getting a job straight away once I qualify, but I've got a part time job in a nursing home.........so that's something!

    It's like this with teaching....teachers struggle to get a job once qualified but they are supposedly short staffed.

    Maybe a very silly suggestion, but why aren't the government getting a pay cut......the lottery funds ( extra money) going to NHS and why didn't Richard Branson get to take over the Lottery because I'm sure he would have invested the money more wisely!!

    I know nursing is about politics, but I feel the Government just does not have it's priorities right one little bit. I think it's very important to have money given to museums etc, but a % of money should be given every single week from the lottery to the NHS. This is lives we are talking about here!

    Tina.......sounds like you need to get the faith back in yourself. Sometimes things get on top of you.........so much that you take everything that everyone says the wrong way and personally! This isn't your fault......just the way you are feeling, but you should feel proud in yourself that you have made it through the 3 years and haven't left mid way! Build yourself back up and I'm sure something will be around the corner that you will enjoy!

    Denise xx
    Hello Denise

    The government indeed does need to get its priorities straightened out
    regarding funding for the NHS , but I can't see it happening any time soon ...and thankyou for your comments, i think your right, a lot has happened to me which has brough my faith and esteem in myself down and i'm letting thingsget to me in a personal way that i shouldnt... i am hoping now that i am out of the bad nursing job i was in that i can build myself back up as you have said... (fingers crossed!)

    Tina K
  6. by   helenai
    Hi there,
    I am so disgusted with the NHS and how it continues to treat the wonderful resource and scarce commodity of nursing. Please habg fire because it will change...easy for me to say i know but i've been there a long time ago...good luck honey.
  7. by   magichands
    Hello all.

    I am little concerned and dis-heartened by what i have been reading so far about the NHS.

    I have made the big decision to leave my job as System manger for the whole of the UK for a very large company to start a degree in Adult nursing. I appreciate that my course doesnt finish for another three years or so, yet i allready feel worried that i wont get work.

    This is something i have wanted for a while and being a bloke it wasnt the easiest of decisions to make yet i have made it and taken the stigma that comes with it in my stride.

    yet all i hear is negative feeling towards the NHS, i know it is in a shambles and everyone is stretched to breaking point and it really needs to be sorted. But doesnt anyone enjoy what they do within the UK??

    I am nervous about starting this course allready and it is a big jump from my current life, but it is what i want. However am i starting something only to find making these sacrifices and changes only to come out the end with a degree and no work to apply my new skills.

    Just a little assurance would be appreciated that there maybe light at the end of the tunnel.

    I'm sorry if i'm sounding like a moaning mertal but i think it is nerves and anxiety, as my course starts in under 7 days.
  8. by   Silverdragon102
    Quote from magichands
    Hello all.

    I am little concerned and dis-heartened by what i have been reading so far about the NHS.

    I have made the big decision to leave my job as System manger for the whole of the UK for a very large company to start a degree in Adult nursing. I appreciate that my course doesnt finish for another three years or so, yet i allready feel worried that i wont get work.

    This is something i have wanted for a while and being a bloke it wasnt the easiest of decisions to make yet i have made it and taken the stigma that comes with it in my stride.

    yet all i hear is negative feeling towards the NHS, i know it is in a shambles and everyone is stretched to breaking point and it really needs to be sorted. But doesnt anyone enjoy what they do within the UK??

    I am nervous about starting this course allready and it is a big jump from my current life, but it is what i want. However am i starting something only to find making these sacrifices and changes only to come out the end with a degree and no work to apply my new skills.

    Just a little assurance would be appreciated that there maybe light at the end of the tunnel.

    I'm sorry if i'm sounding like a moaning mertal but i think it is nerves and anxiety, as my course starts in under 7 days.

    Things are changing in the NHS at the moment but doesn't mean in 3 years time things haven't improved or deteriated.

    Who knows what will happen but wish you well on your journey and hope the course works well for you.
  9. by   madwife2002
    Hi,

    Ok when I started nursing it was a difficult decsion and one I have never regretted. I was older in my 20's and I left a good income, it wasn't thought to be much of a job either. My mother was distraught because she felt I was too clever to be working as a nurse in a hospital, but it was what I had wanted all my life and this time nothing was going to change my mind. I left the NHS in december after many years of happiness and it was hard sometimes, I have never ever known a place where I worked to have full quota of staff and I have worked all over England and many hospitals.
    But I love nursing and love the patients, and I got more out of nursing than you can ever imagine.
    You are going into it with your eyes wide open, you know it is going to be a hard job but you will enjoy it, the time off is good the holidays to rejuvinate are great. If you dont enjoy it or you find it not for you, well you must never regret giving it a go-because you should only regret what you never did in life not the things you have done.
    I know many many nurses who love their job, I was one, you will only see discontented nurses writing on here sometimes because they have had a bad time and need some form of support and advice. This site doesnt seem to be frequented by Uk nurses unless they are emigrating.

    Go for it with a smile on your face-I made a difference to some peoples life and I am sure you will
  10. by   RGN1
    Quote from madwife2002
    Hi,

    Ok when I started nursing it was a difficult decsion and one I have never regretted. I was older in my 20's and I left a good income, it wasn't thought to be much of a job either. My mother was distraught because she felt I was too clever to be working as a nurse in a hospital, but it was what I had wanted all my life and this time nothing was going to change my mind. I left the NHS in december after many years of happiness and it was hard sometimes, I have never ever known a place where I worked to have full quota of staff and I have worked all over England and many hospitals.
    But I love nursing and love the patients, and I got more out of nursing than you can ever imagine.
    You are going into it with your eyes wide open, you know it is going to be a hard job but you will enjoy it, the time off is good the holidays to rejuvinate are great. If you dont enjoy it or you find it not for you, well you must never regret giving it a go-because you should only regret what you never did in life not the things you have done.
    I know many many nurses who love their job, I was one, you will only see discontented nurses writing on here sometimes because they have had a bad time and need some form of support and advice. This site doesnt seem to be frequented by Uk nurses unless they are emigrating.

    Go for it with a smile on your face-I made a difference to some peoples life and I am sure you will
    :yeahthat: There is rarely a day that goes by when I'm not glad that I'm a nurse. Yes the UK could pay better & staff better but there's very few jobs when you can come home satisfied that you really did a good thing at work.

    It won't be long before all these cuts will come back & bite them in the butt & then they'll be crying out for nurses & may even have to up the pay to entice them back! This current situation is more than ridiculous & is really a very short term solution that cannot be sustained for too long.
  11. by   Denise25
    Quote from magichands
    Hello all.

    I am little concerned and dis-heartened by what i have been reading so far about the NHS.

    I have made the big decision to leave my job as System manger for the whole of the UK for a very large company to start a degree in Adult nursing. I appreciate that my course doesnt finish for another three years or so, yet i allready feel worried that i wont get work.

    This is something i have wanted for a while and being a bloke it wasnt the easiest of decisions to make yet i have made it and taken the stigma that comes with it in my stride.

    yet all i hear is negative feeling towards the NHS, i know it is in a shambles and everyone is stretched to breaking point and it really needs to be sorted. But doesnt anyone enjoy what they do within the UK??

    I am nervous about starting this course allready and it is a big jump from my current life, but it is what i want. However am i starting something only to find making these sacrifices and changes only to come out the end with a degree and no work to apply my new skills.

    Just a little assurance would be appreciated that there maybe light at the end of the tunnel.

    I'm sorry if i'm sounding like a moaning mertal but i think it is nerves and anxiety, as my course starts in under 7 days.



    Hiya,

    I start a post grad in nursing this week. I matriculate on thursday, then officially start on Monday 18th Sept.

    I am leaving a well paid, good job that i have done for 5 years.

    I felt the same as you initially where i was very nervous about the amount of people who weren't happy, but for every 10 people unhappy...there seems to be atleast 5 happy! Kind of promising. Remember that the NHS is not the only avenue to go down. There's private, schools,etc.

    I am working part time in a nursing home. ( only been a couple of weeks) It's hard work and i have days when i get annoyed and tired, but it's taken for me to do a few shifts to realise that it's just like any other job. Some days i come home annoyed, some days tired, but most days happy and have felt rewarded.

    As for jobs.....why not get a part time job bank nursing in hospital or nursing home then you will feel more secure in the knowledge that atleast you have a job there to fall back on for a while after you graduate!

    Besides......I'm sure something serious will need to happen in the next few years job wise,as they will always need nurses!!

    Good luck

    Denise
  12. by   eternalsunshine
    Like you Magic, I left a very good job to train and am a mature student. I don't regret making that decision at all and I am now in my 3rd year and some of the memories and experiences I have been privelaged to be involved with have been priceless and will stay with me forever. However, I am demotivated as I know for a fact I will not get a job at my hospital where I am training as they already have a waiting list compiled for the two previous cohorts who are also still waiting for jobs. I would agree with Denise, doing bank work, register with an agency and also that is a good way of getting work and experience in different fields. Also you may find you don't want to work within the NHS at all, there are so many jobs out there that are not in the NHS, I am hoping to work in a hospice where there is time to spend with each individual, one luxury that doesn't happen in a hospital setting, I don't know about others, but I alway feel like I am short changing patients as you can never give them as much time and attention as you would like to. Try not be too disheartened as it is an amazing experience and one which you will value. I do not think you will regret your decision.
    Best of luck!
    EternalSunshine :wink2:
  13. by   yossaria
    I agree with you Tina. I am a 1/2 Romanian + 1/2 Swedish nurse and I live in England at the moment, my partner is English. I worked in the NHS for nearly one year and it put me off. I am sorry to say that, but I know myself as a very positive person, I try to avoid criticism as much as possible, but my last job has been too much. Managers often dont have managerial skills...that's very sad. And as a nurse, esp if you're newly qualified...you do need a lot of support! The only thing I remember from my previous job is that I was rushed in my work to do everyting in time, otherwise I was accused of not being competent with time management. On the other hand, you are held accountable and responsible for everything you do...professionally. I think newly qualified nurses do need support in that matter...until they gain the confidence, because competent nursing skills do not develop overnight, nor in the pre-registration education period.

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