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  1. Hi, im kind of new to this whole posting, forums, and etc., but since i have so many questions arising about my nursing situation, i figured it'd be best to ask those who may know. =)

    so as a U.S citizen who is taking up nursing in the Philippines, I am really worried about what will happen after I graduate. I've heard so many stories about how Philippine nursing graduates move to the U.S and become something other than nurses due to various complications with credits not being accredited, qualifications, more additional years of nursing, and worse THEYRE SCHOOL NOT BEING ACKNOWLEDGED in the states which means, 4 years of hard work, for nothing! =(

    Im going into my 2nd year of BSN course here in the Philippines and i really wanna know what to expect after i graduate and move back to U.S. I want to know if i should transfer back to the states and continue my nursing there or if itll be alright if i finish my nursing course over here. From what i heard, if i do graduate over here in the philippines, i might have to do like 6months to 2 years of additional schooling. Im up for like 2 years of additional learning, or making up for hours and all of that, but to start ALL OVER or to be disqualified from certain things such as taking tests or exams, i dont think ill be able to handle that as good.

    Im kind of alone on this too, since my parents have no idea about how the nursing thing goes. Theyre more on the "graduate as a nurse then work in the states", but we all know its not that easy. They're actually the reason why im attending a nursing school here in the philippines rather than in the states, to save money, cause most of you know how expensive nursing schools are getting in the states. which i think was actually a good idea.............................................. .....at first.

    I just really dont wanna waste time & money. I am 100% interested in becoming a nurse, its been a life long dream&goal, but i dont want to find out that i cant become one AFTER IVE GRADUATED nursing school here in the philippines. ya know? i want to know about the things i should look out for, the things i should do, basically any info that will help me in this situation. PLSSSS PLSS PLLSS! and thank you.

    god bless....
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  3. by   redranger
    School and living is many many many times cheaper in PI.

    My wife came to USA in August of last year, She had her BSN in Nursing from a small Province nursing school in PI.

    We did the requirements from Texas BON for her to sit for NCLEX.

    Easy and she took the NCLEX and smoked it.

    She next went job searching last month and had a few interviews.

    She was offered a nice job with excellent benifits and excellent pay.

    Took about 2 weeks from her sending out resumes to have a job offer.

    Employeers were very impressed by her 2 years of duty working in a hospital and all the hours she had doing her Clinical Duty.

    My opinion. It's very wise to go to Nursing School in PI (If you can handle PI, Some people love it, some hate it).
  4. by   5cats
    The big disadvantage of course is, that you'll be a lifelong foreign educated nurse. So you will allways have to meet BON requirements for those. And depending on economy when you come back it might be more difficult to get hired, plus it'll take a while to get your credentials sorted.
    I personally would allways seek education where I plan to work and live, it's just less hassle.

    But what I heard filipinos have normally no problems in the States regarding their nursing education.

    So at the end it's your decision, listen to your guts

    5cats
  5. by   Ginger's Mom
    It can take up to a year to qualify to work in the US if you qualify. A US graduate can work in 6 weeks or less. Since many RNs can make over 60K a year that year of loss of work equals any savings you would get by going out of the country.

    An ADN program private college costs $20K so I don't know where your savings are. Also when you transfer from one state to another it is not very easy as IEN.
  6. by   Ginger's Mom
    Quote from redranger
    School and living is many many many times cheaper in PI.

    My wife came to USA in August of last year, She had her BSN in Nursing from a small Province nursing school in PI.

    We did the requirements from Texas BON for her to sit for NCLEX.

    Easy and she took the NCLEX and smoked it.

    She next went job searching last month and had a few interviews.

    She was offered a nice job with excellent benifits and excellent pay.

    Took about 2 weeks from her sending out resumes to have a job offer.

    Employeers were very impressed by her 2 years of duty working in a hospital and all the hours she had doing her Clinical Duty.

    My opinion. It's very wise to go to Nursing School in PI (If you can handle PI, Some people love it, some hate it).
    Congrats on the new job, I bet others would love to hear about your wive'e experience from your wife. I guess she won't be joining you on your June trip to the PI.

    Is she in a New Grad Program? Is she working in a hospital or long term care? Ask her to post here with the details.
  7. by   redranger
    Quote from Alexk49
    It can take up to a year to qualify to work in the US if you qualify. A US graduate can work in 6 weeks or less. Since many RNs can make over 60K a year that year of loss of work equals any savings you would get by going out of the country.

    An ADN program private college costs $20K so I don't know where your savings are. Also when you transfer from one state to another it is not very easy as IEN.
    I dont' know where you come up with a year to qualify to work in USA. OP states she is USC (U.S. Citizen). All she has to do pass her NCLEX and start looking for work.

    She going to PI to get BSN, not ADN. So you have to compare apples to apples.

    I would assume if she wanted just a ADN then she would of choose USA.

    So cost would of been around $40,000 in the scenario you stated

    I paid roughly $1,000 per year, or $4,000 for my wifes education in PI.

    So it seems like it 10 times cheaper.
  8. by   Ginger's Mom
    I get the year or more based on many posters who post here, they are US Citizens and it has been over a year and they have not qualified for the NCLEX.

    The OP stated they wanted to be a nurse. I firmly believe one should got to nursing school in the school where you are planning on working as a nurse. This person is a US citizen and in my professional experience as a Masters Trained RN would is certified in several areas nursing education is not about finding a bargain.
  9. by   Silverdragon102
    Even as a USC if trained outside the US then on average looking at 4-6 months to get eligibility to sit NCLEX. A lot depends on state requirements and how paperwork is timely sent. If NY then the wait on average is 8-12 months due to CVS but again depends on how timely paperwork is sent. Could take longer and being a USC won't matter as it all goes on transcripts of training and demand on the BON. If there are lots of foreign nurses applying then the wait could be longer.
  10. by   redranger
    Quote from Silverdragon102
    Even as a USC if trained outside the US then on average looking at 4-6 months to get eligibility to sit NCLEX. A lot depends on state requirements and how paperwork is timely sent.
    Agreed

    In my wife scenario since I handled everything up until she took NCLEX, The paperwork and wait seemed to be minimum and overall process was a fairly Simple, Only CES from CGNFS was about the only hold up, and it took about a month.

    If I had a child and they wanted to go to Nurisng School for ADN - It would be in USA.

    If they wanted a BSN, I would be shipping them off to PI.

    That's me and my situation, and what I know about US and PI schools and costs...
  11. by   redranger
    Quote from Alexk49
    Congrats on the new job, I bet others would love to hear about your wive'e experience from your wife. I guess she won't be joining you on your June trip to the PI.

    Is she in a New Grad Program? Is she working in a hospital or long term care? Ask her to post here with the details.
    She is a New Grad Intern in a very Large Hospital.

    Nope she won't be going to PI this summer. Me and My Nephew and his 16 year old son are going to PI this summer, They had tickets round trip to PI from USA last week for $900 which is a smoking deal.....
  12. by   Ginger's Mom
    I hope you wife posts her experiences here. It will be interesting to read and learn.
  13. by   kmmasas27
    =) thanks for all the replies. I really appreciate the help!

    redranger, congrats to your wife! =) stories like those make me hopeful!


    Alexk49, i also agree with you that it is much easier to go to school in the same place you plan to work at but being in my case, since i know for a fact my parents wont be able to support me all the way financially, even if i get a job too, i thought it'd actually best for me to agree with my parents to take up nursing in the philippines, save both of us trouble FINANCIALLY...hehe. =D


    redranger, Philippines is not as bad as everyone said it was going to be. So im actually alright with going to school here, just as long as i know its not gonna disqualify me or put me into a BIG disadvantage upon becoming a nurse in the san francisco where i intend to live in. i hope you enjoy your vacation in the summer!


    now with more new concerns.......
    is it alright if i dont take the boards or the NCLEX here in the philippines since i plan to go back to the states and work there? And i heard that clicnical hours arent transferrable, so would that mean i shouldnt even get into that over here, since i plan to move back anyways?


    and last, since i can manage the waiting part.......what should i prepare in advance for a more smoother chance at working in the states. I mean ive experienced how hard it was to have to get paperworks mailed and faxed, signed and sealed, and all that formal/offical stuff needed by both schools, from SF to PI during my first enrollment, and mannn must i say, that was the biggest pain in the gulteus maximus. haa i want to try and stray away from that. hehe. i know i still have 3 years of nursing school, i just want to be prepared. =)


    thanks again for all the feedback! <3 any info is good info! even if its just shared experiences!
  14. by   Ginger's Mom
    I am a firm believer you get what you pay for.

    Redranger is plumber and I wonder if his kid wanted to be a plumber if he would send them to the PI for plumbing school. His advice is based on his wife's experience and N=1. Does he employ international trained plumbers over US educated plumbers?

    Nursing is about taking care of patients. One should not be bargain shopping for education. I bet your parents looked for good schools in the US and didn't send you to the cheapest school here in the USA. Why should nursing be different? Why look for a bargain program when the information you are studying could effect a patient's outcome ? I personally choose a nursing school that would prepare me to be the best nurse for my patient.

    Redranger's wife now has a position but she graduated in March 2008 a whole year of lost employment - for a US student that is a loss of $50K in salary. She also has not worked yet so we won't know how successful she will be as a nurse for months. I hope she posts her experiences, not her husband. If my husband posts here, I would be Florence Nightgale, no let me stand correct.... he would say I am the best nurse ever. Every thing my husband posts would be through his rose colored glasses since I am the love of his life.

    My daughter was educated in a US public university that cost $60k for 4 years. My son is in ASU and their tuition is about 1/2 of my home state. Public education at affordable rates are out there. I teach in an ADN evening program so students work full time and go to school full time, most do not take out loans and are self supporting. I don't buy the story it is cheaper since I see many ways to go to school in the USA.

    IEN don't pass the NCLEX at the same rate as US educated nurses. Their rate is about 40% and each time you take it goes down. This is a fact - not one person's story.

    The advice I gave my own daughter who thought of going to med school out of the country since it was cheaper and easier to get into- DON'T. When an American chooses to be educated outside of the country people always question why....

    could they not finish they program in the US?
    Could they not get accepted in the USA?

    Employers and educators will not buy the fact US school were too expensive.

    If you are poor grants are available.

    Nurses need the best quality education they can get it is not a bargain shopping.

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