Canadian Nurse Wanting to Move to England

  1. Hi all,

    This is my first time posting on this website, and I must say that it seems like quite the wealth of knowledge! I'm currently living in Vancouver, Canada, but over the last month or so, I've been thinking of moving to England. I'm a bit confused as to the starting wages for RNs on your side of the ocean. Is there a good website that can explain everything in a concise manner? For example: What does an F grade nurse make? What is an F grade nurse? Do you guys have distinctions between nurses who have their university degrees and nurses who have diplomas?

    Any information you can provide would be very appreciated!
    *excited*
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  3. by   XB9S
    You will need to check with the NMC website for registeration information there are lots of links on the site. As far as wages, it will depend where you work as agenda for change is changing the way we are being paid. Newly qualifieds will go in on a band 5 the Royal college of nursing has detials of pay rates here

    http://www.rcn.org.uk/agendaforchang...ns/pay/pay2006

    Our F grades were deputy ward managers and are now band 6 our E grades senior staff nurses and they are band 5, D grades staff nurse and where newly qualified would enter are also band 5. Ward managers are band 7
  4. by   Claire_Fraser
    ^ What's the typical patient load like in the UK? In Canada we usually have between 4-6 patients on a typical day shift on a med-surg unit.
  5. by   Silverdragon102
    Quote from jayceee
    ^ What's the typical patient load like in the UK? In Canada we usually have between 4-6 patients on a typical day shift on a med-surg unit.
    staffing varies from hospital to hospital but examples I can give for the 3 hospitals I worked for was 2 RN and 2 care workers for 28 patients. We tend to have med surg wards seperately ie 1 ward medical and another ward surgical although typically with bed shortages it was normal to find medical patients on surgical wards but very rare for other way round.

    Also another thing to be aware is we work a lot of different shifts and was normal to be on a 7am-2.30pm shift and return next day 1.30-9-00pm,or visa versa there was a few how did longer shifts but generally on my ward it wasn't liked Night shift generally was 75 hours over the 7 days to which we then had the following 7 days off as 2 weeks hours was worked in 1 week.

    Please be aware that there are changes in immigration and may be hard to get a job in the UK as hospitals have been told to employ UK, EU then elsewhere. Also NMC have recently changed again their requirements for foreign trained nurses

    Good luck
  6. by   XB9S
    Quote from jayceee
    ^ What's the typical patient load like in the UK? In Canada we usually have between 4-6 patients on a typical day shift on a med-surg unit.
    We have 3 qualified and 1 unqualified to 19 pateints during an early shift, 2 qualified and 1 unqual. on a late shift and the same for a night.

    I work on a general surgical unit, occasionally have medical, trauma outlyers but generally deal with general surg.

    Good Luck
  7. by   Clarecartwright
    Typical pay for a F grade (band 6) is between 22'000 and 33'000 dependant on where you fall in the band as there are levels to the bands - im on level 2 and earn 23'500 roughly remember this is basic on top of this you have unsocial hours and weekends.

    I work on a 48 bedded unit and my level are 4 trained and 4 untrained
  8. by   RGN1
    Stay in Canada, it's nicer, cheaper & better all round!

    Seriously, at the moment the UK is not the place to come as a foreign nurse because you simply can't get in. Of course when the **** hits the fan in lets say 1-3 years it might be different but right now nursing is no longer a schedule A job so work permits are not being granted or even renewed in some cases.

    If you want to travel the world a bit look at Australia or New Zealand as better options right now.

    Good luck to you xxx
  9. by   Clarecartwright
    Out of this years in take of 150 students who trained here at my hospital and qualified only 5 got jobs the rest are working agency as Auxillaries - Its shocking
  10. by   RGN1
    Quote from Clarecartwright
    Out of this years in take of 150 students who trained here at my hospital and qualified only 5 got jobs the rest are working agency as Auxillaries - Its shocking
    That's terrible Clare - but a trend that's being repeated all over the UK at the moment.

    Our local Trust is axing Care of the Elderly beds right before winter - can you believe the short-sightedness of it????!

    I'm afraid that you have 2 hopes of working as a nurse from abroad in the UK at the moment - Bob Hope & No Hope!!!

    There will be a job going at my hospital in about a years time, all being well though ,'cos I'll be leaving to go to the USA!!!
  11. by   arys1075
    It all depends on where a nurse's heart is. Just follow where your heart's treasure is. If he/she is happy to live anywhere, go on... Not because only of better country, nice benefits, high salary, warmer place, less crime, less racism. I worked in Asia, Middle East, and presently here in Europe but I still want to experience to work in US even Australia. Life is too short and I want to enjoy it and live a life worthy of the Lord.
  12. by   cicada
    Jayceee,
    I'm European, currently living and working as a nurse in US. After being here for numerous years, I would like to relocate back home. The best option seemed UK where my family members live. However, according statistics and my family, this year only 1 from 5 new grad nurses will get a job. Scary! Isn't? So, I plan to go to Australia and if a situation in UK will become better for us, nurses, I'll go there. But not now. No way! Also, for you, if you're not EEU citizen, will be hard to obtain work permit. Nursing is not on UK immigration priority list anymore. I believe that in Ireland still shortage for RN's. Maybe you'll try there. Sorry, if I dissappointed you. Good luck!

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