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Inmates trained to assist prison nurses in new state program

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Specializes in CCU, Geriatrics, Critical Care, Tele. Has 27 years experience.

Georgia officials hope that a new program that trains inmates to assist nurses in prison infirmaries will help keep rising health care costs under control.

The state's first 10 inmates graduated from the test program last Friday at Baldwin State Prison, said Deputy Warden Nathan Handerry.

"They will assist the medical staff," Handerry said. "Basically they got the same training as people who study to be certified nursing assistants."

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I think they have lost their minds.

I know they have lost their minds. Of course, the nurse will be blamed and held responsible if anything goes "wrong" with these inmate's work. :angryfire

having worked in corrections for over a year, I do not see a problem with this practice. The inmates at the correctional facility that I worked at did all the cleaning, repair work, cooking, laundrey, staffed the libraries, tutored other inmates etc.

There is a state correctional facility nearby that is for old inmates. They use younger inmates to take of the older, sick ones. there is no problem and it does save money.

having worked in corrections for over a year, I do not see a problem with this practice. The inmates at the correctional facility that I worked at did all the cleaning, repair work, cooking, laundrey, staffed the libraries, tutored other inmates etc.

There is a state correctional facility nearby that is for old inmates. They use younger inmates to take of the older, sick ones. there is no problem and it does save money.

I wonder if they will be taking vital signs and asking old inmates when they last had a BM since they will be certified nursing assistants? I wonder if they would "lie" and put down fake vital signs? I wonder if they would lie and say the old man had a big BM so the nurse won't give a laxative? I just don't trust inmates. I'm glad to hear that it seems to be working at that correctional facility you mentioned since it does save the taxpayer's money :)

chip193

Specializes in ER.

I wonder if they will be taking vital signs and asking old inmates when they last had a BM since they will be certified nursing assistants? I wonder if they would "lie" and put down fake vital signs? I wonder if they would lie and say the old man had a big BM so the nurse won't give a laxative? I just don't trust inmates. I'm glad to hear that it seems to be working at that correctional facility you mentioned since it does save the taxpayer's money :)

And what's the difference between the inmate/CNA making up vitals and the CNA at your place doing it? You can't tell me that you've never seen one do it!

It all depends on the individual. You don't know why the ten inmates are there. You don't know anything about them.

Chip

Gee...and I'm the Conservative!

I wonder if they will be taking vital signs and asking old inmates when they last had a BM since they will be certified nursing assistants? I wonder if they would "lie" and put down fake vital signs? I wonder if they would lie and say the old man had a big BM so the nurse won't give a laxative? I just don't trust inmates. I'm glad to hear that it seems to be working at that correctional facility you mentioned since it does save the taxpayer's money :)

There have been non-incarcerated CNA's that have been terminated over falsifying VS and LPN's that have made up FSBS and actually administered SS insulin based on made up values. ( Also terminated). Believe it or not, there is honor among prisoners, people do change, and inmates do a good job. It takes a while to build a working relationship. Also they do not become certified since a felon cannot hold liscensure in Colorado. they are trained.

The hardest thing for me to do in a correctional facility was to adjust to eating the food.

And what's the difference between the inmate/CNA making up vitals and the CNA at your place doing it? You can't tell me that you've never seen one do it!

It all depends on the individual. You don't know why the ten inmates are there. You don't know anything about them.

Chip

Gee...and I'm the Conservative!

It does depend on the individual in any institution or 'health-care setting' : )

mercyteapot, BSN, RN

Specializes in Dev. Disabilities, Health Disparities. Has 20 years experience.

I also don't have a big problem with this, provided due diligence is exercised when selecting appropriate inmates to participate in the program. OTOH, the first thing that went through my mind when I read this, was Abedisi intentionally infecting Nappa with HIV on "Oz".

prmenrs, RN

Specializes in NICU, Infection Control. Has 42 years experience.

My first thought was Hmmmmm as visions of purloined syringes and needles danced in my head. But, I know that I don't know enough to really judge. So---I won't!

I only hope that those individuals who want to change their lives are given the grace and the chances to do so.

delta32

Specializes in ICU/CCU, Rehab, insurance, case manager. Has 5 years experience.

in reply to blackcat:

you post made it sound that everyone in jail is scum and deserves to be placed a dark little hole where they can not steal/lie/cheat. I would think that with you being a nurse that you would encourage the inmates to make better people of themselves. I think that if these inmates want to better themselves then let them, as for them lying about if a patient had a BM or not if the nurse that is observing them is doing her job them she should be able to tell if her patient is or is not passing stool. Don't get me wrong i am a major supporter of the death penailty and believe the laws should me much stricter but i believe that while they are in jail they can mayhaps learn something important about there fellow man.

I think if inmates can be trained to be productive, use their minds and better themselves, well more power to them! Remember, not all inmates are in prison because of vicious crimes. Some are in there for what I feel are rather petty issues, such as possessing small amounts of drugs, immigration issues, writing a bad check, etc. It really depends if you are looking at State facilities or Federal Detention Centers, too. There is a BIG difference between these institutions and the type of people that are there serving their sentences.

delta32...Excellent point when you mentioned that you thought Nurses would encourage inmates to better themselves! I guess for some, care and compassion stops once a person is incarcerated. :o

Unless someone is in on a violent offence, I see no problem with it. As previously posted medical professionals have lied about v/s's, meds, FSBS etc. It happens. Let's give them the benefit of the doubt. We've all done something at sometime that wasn't right...eg lied, stolen, committed adultery:chuckle well you get my drift. I believe that everyone can change.:)

I wonder if they will be taking vital signs and asking old inmates when they last had a BM since they will be certified nursing assistants? I wonder if they would "lie" and put down fake vital signs? I wonder if they would lie and say the old man had a big BM so the nurse won't give a laxative? I just don't trust inmates. I'm glad to hear that it seems to be working at that correctional facility you mentioned since it does save the taxpayer's money :)

OK, perhaps you have been flogged enough already Blackcat, but I must add this: If you had read the article you would have learned that the inmates will NOT be certified nursing assistants and will NOT be doing any kind of treatment or assessments (VS, BM's etc.) It would serve you well to check the facts before you make a hysterical response.

Yes I have met dishonest non-inmate CNA's and LPN's too. Anyway, to each their own. I don't work corrections anymore so I really don't care. :rotfl:

OK, perhaps you have been flogged enough already Blackcat, but I must add this: If you had read the article you would have learned that the inmates will NOT be certified nursing assistants and will NOT be doing any kind of treatment or assessments (VS, BM's etc.) It would serve you well to check the facts before you make a hysterical response.

:chuckle Hysterical response? I personally don't want to work closely with an inmate nurse aide. I use to work in corrections and I don't trust them. I have a right to express my opinion here.

renerian, BSN, RN

Specializes in MS Home Health.

Okay????????????????

renerian :uhoh21:

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