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Ruby Vee has 40 years experience as a BSN.

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Some people are just crazy. I know that's not a professional term, and believe me I'm not casting aspersions upon folks who have a mental health issue and are working on it. But some people just lack the filters and/or the power of reasoning that other folks have.

The guy who shot my friend (Pat was a nursing supervisor and was called to deal with a patient who was unhappy with his care) was someone who absolutely could not be pleased. He was smarter than everyone else, better than everyone else and shouldn't have to follow rules (ever) or wait his turn. There would have been no way to appease that guy. Pat got off lightly with one round in the buttock, but 25 year later he still walks with a limp.

If there is blame to be placed -- and you are absolutely right, there are a lot of details that may change the character of this story -- I'd blame the idea that nursing staff has to make everyone happy. When someone is freaking fracking crazy, they need to be barred from the building, not placated.

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monkeybug has 15 years experience and works as a home visiting nurse, former L&D nurse.

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Some people are just crazy. I know that's not a professional term, and believe me I'm not casting aspersions upon folks who have a mental health issue and are working on it. But some people just lack the filters and/or the power of reasoning that other folks have.

The guy who shot my friend (Pat was a nursing supervisor and was called to deal with a patient who was unhappy with his care) was someone who absolutely could not be pleased. He was smarter than everyone else, better than everyone else and shouldn't have to follow rules (ever) or wait his turn. There would have been no way to appease that guy. Pat got off lightly with one round in the buttock, but 25 year later he still walks with a limp.

If there is blame to be placed -- and you are absolutely right, there are a lot of details that may change the character of this story -- I'd blame the idea that nursing staff has to make everyone happy. When someone is freaking fracking crazy, they need to be barred from the building, not placated.

I absolutely agree that some of it should be blamed on nursing staff making people happy. I know a nurse who works at this hospital, luckily she is fine. It's a Daughters of Charity facility, one of the "nice" hospitals in Birmingham. I'm sure administration will find a way to blame it on the nursing staff.

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melsman1904 has 6 years experience and works as a Home Health.

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I also know a few nurses working there. In fact, I worked in this system for a period of time(never at that campus though). What I saw for security was less than robust. Of course, every hospital that I've ever worked in has had unarmed security. One facility only had a security guard from 1700-0400. I always wondered what we were going to do on the NOC if something jumped off at 0430. I guess that would fall under "other duties as directed" in the nursing job description.

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kalevra has 5 years experience and works as a RN.

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Point proven, armed security force neutralizes gunman in hospital setting. Prime example of why important buildings like schools, and hospitals should have professional armed security force. It could have been worse if they the police did not shoot the gunman. Imagine if all the staff did was cower in fear and call 911. There would have been a much higher body count.

Also I want to point out that the report state that the hospital had NO fatalities. The only dead person was the man who started shooting in the first place.

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