My OBLC experiences

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I am currently at OBLC (Officer Basic Leader Course) in Ft. Sam Houston. I will try to give a brief overview so future students can have an idea and hopefully be prepared.

I am not in the ANC (Army Nurse Corp), I am a Clinical Laboratory Officer in the MSC (Medical Service Corp). I am a licensed practical nurse and am working on my BSN.

Our class started on April 9th, 2007. This 1st week was mainly administrative type tasks, like ID cards, filling out travel vouchers, submitting dependent information, brief dental exam, immunizations, etc. We did have lectures and workshops on things like military leadership, writing skills, etc. too.

Even though the OBLC website showed a class size of about 230, our class is only about 135 soldiers.

Thoughts from week 1:

1) Many of us are prior service. Learn from the prior enlisted Army soldiers! Incredibly helpful. My prior service was Navy so some basics like military courtesies and military bearing I knew, but the Army does do many things differently. Be patient and listen. They will teach you.

2) I have noticed that a few soldiers who are straight from civilian life have had some issues with being on time for formation. Trust me, you do not want to be late!! You are not in college anymore!! This is the military. Be early!! You do not want the huge negative attention you will receive not to mention the anger of your fellow soldiers that have to be there earlier and earlier because some can't make it on time.

3) Bring all of the documents listed on the OBLC website. Makes life easier for you. Don't forget shot records. You can't prove it, you get stuck again!

4) You definitely should get at least 1 set of ACU's (Army Combat Uniform) prior to arrival. We wore PT outfit 1st day and ACU's after that. A few did not have ACU's and wore PT gear the 2nd day. You don't want to stick out like a sore thumb. There are mail order sources if you are not near a post. Don't forget ACU name tags. I ordered mine through U.S. Cavalry and am very pleased with them.

5) Do NOT fall asleep in class!! It is hot, humid and sometimes you have been up since 0330 or so. Again, you do not want this negative attention on yourself. Only water is allowed in the auditoriums and classrooms, so I bring Vivarin and take if I need. Also, standing up and moving to the back is acceptable and not a negative on you.

6) If at all possible bring a laptop or desktop computer. It will make your life easier. Bring a printer if you can. I was one of only a few that had a printer in their room so many people were coming to me to print stuff.

Thoughts from week 2:

1) Sadly we are still having issues with some people being tardy. The unfortunate consequence of this is all of us will now have to be in formation 3 times a day for accountability. This takes away from our already sporifice free time during the week. I realize this will seem strange to non prior service. In the military you are a team and even if only a few do not conform, frequently there will be consequences for the whole unit.

2) PFT (Physical Fitness Test): Oh boy, this was unpleasant for many. You would be wise to heed their advice to be in shape when you arrive here. Approximately 1/3 of my class did not pass the PFT. The test consists of push ups, sit ups, and a 2 mile run. If you fail any part, you fail it all. Most people had problems on the run. Now, usually when you fail a PFT, you are "flagged". This basically means you are ineligible for positive actions including promotion. The PFT is taken quite seriously. For those who failed, they do morning PT 5 days a week. The rest do PT 3 days a week. At the end of the course, there will be another PFT test for those who failed the 1st one. You can download an Excel spreadsheet from here which will show you what your minimums are for your gender and age:

http://www.cs.amedd.army.mil/187medbn/alpha/

I have been told direct commissions "off the street" are a special category and have 180 days to pass, but they really strive to have everyone pass before leaving OBLC.

3) This week has kicked into high gear with PowerPoint presentations. They jokingly call it "Death by PowerPoint". Some of it is interesting, other subjects quite dry. Not being able to drink coffee in there is absolutely brutal for many of us, including me. Oh well. Don't forget, standing up in the back of the class is OK if you can't stay awake.

4) A little item I did not know before this. Apparently in the Army (not sure of other services), 2nd lieutenants do not salute 1st lieutenants. I do get a salute from a 2nd lieutenant occasionally, but rarely.

5) There are a lot of E-1 through E-4's here. Here is a website showing the rank insignia: http://www.military-quotes.com/ranks/army-rank-insignia.htm

Many are just out of BCT (Basic Combat Training). Some, for whatever reason, walk by without saluting. At first myself and my classmates were unsure how we were supposed to handle this situation. Our cadre (our instructors and leadership) instructed us that we DO NOT have the authority to "smoke" them (Make them do push ups, etc.). But, they told us that if we do not correct the problem, then we are part of the problem. So, now if it happens, we get their attention and ask them if they forgot to do something. Most at this point come to attention, apologize and salute. You don't have to be an ass to help them. They get enough of that from their drill sergeants!

Thoughts from week 3:

1) The long PowerPoint days continue. We each had to give a short PowerPoint presentation. This is another time you will be happy if you have a personal computer. Also very nice to have PowerPoint installed and if you have no clue how to use PowerPoint, at least learn the basics before you get here.

2) PT continues 5 days a week for those who did not pass initially. Just another reminder that reporting here in decent physical condition will make life easier on you.

3) We are going to the field the next 3 weeks for FTX's (field training exercises). We do come back to FSH (Fort Sam Houston) on the weekends.

4) Tardiness issue has improved drastically. Thankfully, people are getting the idea now.

Thoughts from week 4:

1) Had our first FTX (Field Training Exercise). For those prior service Army/Marines, I'm sure it is a cakewalk, but for those of us who have never done this, it was a bear. Most days about 12-13 hours from reveille till your free for the day. Thursday was about 17 hours.

A rough list of tasks: M-16 & M-9(9mm) training/qualification, CBRN(Chemical,biological,radiological, nuclear) training, land navigation, 3 mile ruck march, basic tactical formations, and a practice medevac casualty exercise on Friday.

2) Gas, gas, gas! Part of your CBRN training is enduring the infamous CS Gas chamber. Look, it sucks, but everybody has to do it and you will survive. Not one of us died! You also get to put that wonderfully hot chemical protective suit and mask on in the sweltering Texas heat until your instructor tells you all clear. Fun day, heh.

3) Land navigation. You will learn how to use a compass and map to plot and navigate. There is a daytime and night time land navigation exercise.You will also be taught a basic GPS handheld and will also have a mounted land navigation exercise in a vehicle.

4) You will learn how to field strip a M16A2 rifle down and reassemble it with a complete function check within 4 minutes. Many of you will be able to do this blindfolded! I never would have believed it but I witnessed it. Unfortunately I couldn't quite get the 4 minutes blindfolded, but I felt I did quite well considering I had never even touched this weapon prior to OBLC. You will also learn how to disassemble and reassemble the 9mm, which is easier.

5) Some items to consider that may not be on your packing list:

Benadryl (if you need help sleeping)

ibufrofen (or whatever your preferred painkiller is)

moleskin plus (many people developed blisters)

luggage tags or similar for your duffel bag (they all look the same)

small knife/multi-purpose tool (always useful in the field)

sunscreen (this is Texas!)

bug repellent (these mosquitoes can be vicious) chiggers too; also recommend a small container of repellent you can carry with you.

hand sanitizer

earplugs (up to 38 people per tent, some snore!, alarms beeping, storms; I like the silicone type)

wet wipes (at this time there are no showers)

electric razor

ziploc bags (to keep stuff dry)

plenty of socks as many times they will get soaked from trekking through wet fields or if it is raining

small pillow (I got a compressible Thermarest from REI)

bed cushion (Those cots are rock hard, at least for me. I bought a roll able, self-inflating bed roll from the PX)

hyrdrocortisone/Benadryl creme (for those inevitable bug bites)

Gatorade/Propel, etc. to flavor that nasty tasting drinking water. Many brands come in little tubes that work well in a canteen.

Small notebook (you can buy waterproof ones at the clothing sales PX)

Extra sets of ACU's (they will get wet/filthy/smelly. Consider though, it is difficult to get them completely clean again so they will unlikely be "perfect" ACU's anymore.)

Thoughts from week 5:

1) This week was group oriented type tasks versus individual tasks last week. We did things like LRC (Leader Reaction Course), MOUT (Military Operations Urban Terrain) which was 4 person teams clearing buildings and urban warfare training, 2 days of convoy ops training, and retesting for those who did not pass night and/or day land navigation last week.

2) This week still had some long days but seemed to be a slower tempo and less traveling around via the deuce and a halfs.

Thoughts from week 6:

1) The op tempo seemed higher than week 5, but still less intense than week 4. This week was the grand finale AMEDD FTX. Monday was just movement to the FOB and some CLS (Combat lifesaver) classes. Tuesday through Thursday were the exercises. There were three groups which each day rotated through the 3 main areas. We also had the BOLC (Basic Officer Leader Course) group with us this week.

2) The mornings were more training sessions, then the exercise was in the afternoon followed by the evaluation/discussion.

3) I was lucky to be picked as a "casualty" a few times. This is a good experience as you get to see the whole process from a 1st hand perspective. Volunteer for this if is offered to you.

4) Friday we did a 5 mile road march and then toured a scaled down CSH (Combat Support Hospital).

Thoughts from week 7:

1) Last week!! The tempo was definitely more relaxed this week. Still doing PT. Another PT test was administered for those that did not pass initially.

2) More classes on subjects like OER (Officer Evaluation Reports), NCOER (Non-Commissioned Officer Reports), writing awards, etc.

Officership type material.

3) Next week we enter our AOC specific tracks.

4) Graduation ceremony was fairly quick and easy. Family members were allowed. Our uniform was ACU's.

Well, it's done for me now. Hopefully this information will make future OBLC students transition into the Army a bit smoother.

1LT Joseph L Cheser

Great info, very helpful!! :up:

Thanks..

One more thing, do you recommend having a laptop/printer during the course?? :typing

Thanks again!

i just graduated from oblc and am now heading into the last portion of training here at fsh, and there are a few things mentioned above that are different:

if you are a maj or above, you will have your own room while at oblc. i have my own room and am a cpt; there are several of us here that are cpts that have our own room. if you are in bldg 592 chances are you will have your own room and the majority of the rcs had their own room.

if you are in the nurse track, you will have training/testing on the weekend. we start the nurse track tomorrow and go straight through until 19 dec. we do not have any days off and go back out to camp bullis for a day of training.

i also recommend that you break in your shoes prior to arriving. the platoons will break down into groups...the groups will break down and there is no set rule on what you will be doing for the ftx each day. you will all accomplish the same objectives, our first day we did training to help us with the land navigation. i recommend that you pay attention as we have several who did not pass even after the second time.

regular school house classes are supposed to be held off post for future courses and from what i have been told you still could train on the weekend at camp bullis if your class size is large. ours was smaller than the class before us who had to go through the weekend.

it is up to you if you want to bring the laptop/printer as we have some that have it and some that do not. i am getting another phd so i need to have mine for class work. you can go to the library if you need to have a form filled out or write a letter to your nurse manager (if in rn track) but i have seen student's sharing laptops. i am not sure if there used to be assignments that required you to bring one, but i recommend bringing one.

i strongly recommend that you bring a vehicle, life here stinks without one!

start doing what it takes so that you pass your afpt the first time. we had 80 students have to retake the exam, 59 of which who passed it the second time, and the remainder did not. there are a few who did not pass that obtained permanent profiles so that they could walk, which i do not recommend. they told us that if we did not pass it the second time, that they would allow you to retake it again at the end of your track. if you did not pass it, you would be detained for 30-days, allowed to retake it and if you still did not pass you would be recycled. if you are going overseas and do not pass it on the second attempt, you will not go overseas. i passed so i did not have to worry.

lastly, as was earlier mentioned, they try not to recycle students unless they need to. we lost two students this time, one due to a surgery another due to a family emergency. we have one student who will be leaving on a medical discharge and a few who will be resigning their commission at the end of the training. it does happen, but know that the cadres here really try to get you through without worrying about your recycling unless you are uncooperative. the 24 hour rule is subjective as there have been a few who have been put on quarters; it really is up to the discretion of the cadre. we had students on quarters during the ftxs (not the ones that we had to get a go on) and at the school house.

anyway....my experience does not differ too much from the one above...just thought i would share.

uniform inspections will vary depending upon the class advisor, come prepared to purchase one though. some of us were unable to purchase them while here and attempted to buy them on three different occasions. if this happens, you must go to the class advisor to let them know about your situation.

One more thing, do you recommend having a laptop/printer during the course?? :typing

Thanks again!

You can bring one, but you normally don't get any homework (depends on the PA) USB drives are now banned across the army, so you won't be able to use one anywhere on a GOVT network. I believe the billets have free wifi or ethernet in the rooms...

and to clarify the 24 hour rule. It is usually decided on a case by case basis. If you decide to skip class, than yes, you will be recycled, if not worse. Ultimately the Chief, makes the final decision. ANd of course, the Cadre will always try to work something out that will help the students, but sometimes it is out of their hands completely. But just like PHD stated, it is all about cooperation, to be successful.

The Grinch

an OBLC/BOLC Instructor

GetnPhD

Congrats on your graduation!!!

:yeah:

Specializes in ICU- adults, Flight RN peds/neo.

Thanks Grinch1976,

Did you instruct at this last OBLC (which ended Nov 25 for RC)? If so, thank you for an excellent learning experience......I only wish it had been LONGER! I know "prior service soldiers" were bored, but for us direct commissions, it was great.......!

"recent RC grad"

c.

Thanks Grinch1976,

Did you instruct at this last OBLC (which ended Nov 25 for RC)? If so, thank you for an excellent learning experience......I only wish it had been LONGER! I know "prior service soldiers" were bored, but for us direct commissions, it was great.......!

"recent RC grad"

c.

Yes I did. I was the instructor that had to field the "paranoia question" during the Middle Eastern Culture Class given to the RC's...

Specializes in ICU- adults, Flight RN peds/neo.
Yes I did. I was the instructor that had to field the "paranoia question" during the Middle Eastern Culture Class given to the RC's...

OH my goodness!

I was on the front row, very close to the "Paranoia Source!"....... you answered that soldier very well and patiently :)

thank you again for your expertise and patience (forbearance under provocation)

1Lt. Benton

Specializes in Emergency RN, CEN.
Just a couple of things about OBLC:

1. right now, if you are required to stay on post, you WILL have a room mate in the billets. THis has been a challenge for most (lots of different personalities, and they don't always mesh well.) I've had students in the past almost get into bare knuckle, drag out, fist fights because they didn't get along. Since it is our goal to teach leadership here at OBLC, it is important that you learn to tolerate each other the best you can.

2. the APFT is important, and you must pass. But the Cadre (instructors) will work with you as much as possible. But the other thing to realize is, we simply do not do enough PT during the 1 hour session in the morning. My recommendation for everyone is to do some PT, or weight training on your own. During your lunch hour, or after work. Fort Sam has a decent Gym, and there are two main running tracks on Fort Sam. You'll just have to find some self motivation to get there...

3. In regards to recyling/failing. This does happen on rare occassions, based on many different circumstances. Mostly involving some type of medical issues. As long as you pass the APFT, the MIDTERM, and FINAL. And have "perfect" attendance during the course you should be fine. YOu cannot miss more than 24 combined hours of training during the course. I would suggest everyone comes with a positive attitude, too. You may not enjoy every aspect of the course, but try to give your best effort day in and day out. THere have been cases where students were deemed unfit based on other than physical health reasons. For some this may be the toughest training you have ever experienced.

4. We are no longer authorized to train over weekends (unless you are in the Reserve Course which last 28 days) so you will have a break between each FTX. We observe All federal holidays, but unless the schedule permits, we may have to train on Training Holidays from time to time. I believe this is the case for the upcoming January 2009 course.

5. I would recommend to everyone to purchase a set of Combat Boots before you get to OBLC. It takes some time for them to "break in." THe first day of your first FTX is Dismounted Land Navigation, and this usually takes a lot of students out, and most end up on 'soft' shoe profiles. Don't purchase the Mattahorn or Jump Boot Variety. Corcoran, Oakley, Altama all make a very comfortable "Sneaker Style" boot, that are authorized for wear. I prefer Oakley boots. You can get them cheaper at USSTANDARDISSUE.COM. The Oakleys (as well as the other Sneaker style) are much lighter and have a shorter break in period than the issued combat boot. You can buy all military SPEC Oakley Glasses there as well. As long as your boots are 8 inches high and don't have any zippers or tabs on them, you are fine.

6. If you are prior service, and actually went through a Rapid Fielding Initiative (RFI) during your prior service time, CIF here will not issue you Ballistic Eye wear. If you have a set, I would suggest you bring them. You'll need them during the FTX's, especially during the M16 and M9 range.

7. At some point while you are here you will have to conduct an uniform inspection in your dress uniform. the requirement for active duty is Dress Blues, and Reserve/NG soldiers will wear the Class A Uniform. If you are purchasing your Dress Blues, I would suggest everyone purchase the Low waisted/straight waisted pants with belt loops as opposed to the high-waisted suspender pants. We will be transitioning to the new Army Service Uniform in the near future. It'll save you some money when the transition takes place. A few students have attempted to purchase these uniforms at local ALteration shops around fort sam, I would recommend you do not utilize this route. It may be cheaper, but some students have ended up with uniforms in the wrong color. If the CLothing and Sales On post does not have the uniform you can try the AAFES.COM website or even the MARLOWWHITE.COM website.

8. Clothing & Sales here is "extremely limited" when it comes to uniform stockage. They have plenty of ACU's, but are always short on the dress and PT uniforms. For the JAN 09 class you will need the full Winter PT uniform with long sleeve shirt. Also, try to purchase the Unversal green cold weather cap as opposed to the black cold weather cap. The green one will be the only authorized cap in the future. It'll save you some money now. And don't forget a set of black gloves. The AAFES.COM site will have all your military uniforms, if you wish to purchase them prior to arrival (might be a good idea, if you can afford it right now.) But it may take up to two weeks to receive the items.

9. Here are a few places you can purchase military spec uniform items. I am NOT affiliated with any of these sites, nor will I get a kick back if you go there. As an instructor I feel it is important for everyone to be successful from the start.

For uniforms:

www.Rangerjoes.com - they sell everything you can imagine, and they ship a lot faster than AAFES does

www.marlowwhite.com - for your dress uniforms if the Clothing&Sales is all dried up.

www.AAFES.com - has everything the other two sites have, but you will need a Military ID card for access

www.ALTAMA.com - spec issue, sneaker style boots

www.USSTANDARDISSUE.com - everything Oakley for the military. Much cheaper than going to any other store. You will need an ID card as well

www.USCAV.com - just like Ranger Joes.

Any other questions, feel free to ask.

Thank you sir, for the very informative post.

I need to get some final clarification. I have read several places, including an official release from AMMED that stated we (RC) do not need the Dress Blues ("Army Service Uniform"). Reading your post you are stating that we DO need to have them for OBLC?

Thank you,

66HM5

Specializes in ICU- adults, Flight RN peds/neo.

Hi M5!

RC---We graduated in our ACU's in Nov.2008.

We did not need OR were required to have our dress blues (or greens).

When are you going to OBLC? You will have a great time....

I am currently trying to get an additional skill identifier---M5, because (I hope) it will make me more apt to get an oconus deployment.

Currently, all the 2009 slots are filled for 8A.

Not sure HRC will go for my M5, but I will try!

c.

Specializes in Emergency RN, CEN.
Hi M5!

RC---We graduated in our ACU's in Nov.2008.

We did not need OR were required to have our dress blues (or greens).

When are you going to OBLC? You will have a great time....

I am currently trying to get an additional skill identifier---M5, because (I hope) it will make me more apt to get an oconus deployment.

Currently, all the 2009 slots are filled for 8A.

Not sure HRC will go for my M5, but I will try!

c.

OTD,

Thanks for the response. I wonder if the uniform requirement applies only to AC?

I was supposed to go in January. But... the Army has seen fit for whatever reason to drag their feet in issuing my orders. :banghead: I was commissioned on July 1st. I am still awaiting orders. I was told (though not in writing) that I would have my orders by now and would be able to attend OBLC in January. I most likely wont be making it until April. :no:

I commissioned with the M5 identifier due to my experience. I have been ER since day one as an RN (a little over 3 years now...boy did that fly by). My recruiter put it in my contract. Prior to nursing I was a paramedic so the ER has been a natural fit for me.

Good luck in obtaining the identifier. I will be going after the Critical Care identifier. Hopefully I can get a slot in the class.... If I ever get to OBLC that is.

66HM5

This was a great read. Thank you so much for sharing.

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