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Girl Brain Dead after Tonsillectomy

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Strive2Survive works as a EMT.

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LMAO! I wish I could like this post!

I didn't mean to stick my nose in anyone else's business but I've been stalking this thread for days and I'm honestly learning from it. I'm just a 2nd degree nursing student so I'm interested to get an educated view in this horrible situation. I can't begin to imagine what this girl's mother is going through but I would hope and pray that (God forbid) if my family were in this situation...someone would step up and be the voice of reason. Do I believe in miracles? Yes! And I have faith in God, but I can't imagine what this family expects the outcome of this to be.

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TheCommuter has 10 years experience as a BSN, RN and works as a CRRN, now a case management RN.

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Racist toward what race? Black? I'm black and I'm not offended.
I'm African-American as well, and I have not seen any blatantly racist rhetoric spewed at any time during this discussion.

Other websites? Now, that's a different story. Some hateful respondents have used the comments section on other sites to refer to Jahi and her family members using horrible racial slurs that I cannot repeat.

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Strive2Survive works as a EMT.

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I'm African-American as well' date=' and I have not seen any blatantly racist rhetoric spewed at any time during this discussion. Other websites? Now, that's a different story. Some hateful respondents have used the comments section on other sites to refer to Jahi and her family members using horrible racial slurs that I cannot repeat.[/quote']

Which is why I won't read comments on other pages. Some people say really ugly things and instead of making this about this young girl and her family, some make it about an entire group of people. Sickening.

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Fellow healthcare provider, your profile states you are pre-nursing, so what type of healthcare are you providing?

Did you really pull the race card? Really???

oops, sorry. I was reading through comments and felt the need to respond, but didn't have an account. Quickly signed up, but didn't really read through all the specs. I have been a critical care/emergency room RN for 26 years this year. Sorry about the race card. I was just frustrated and chose the wrong word to express myself. I was not directing my criticism so much toward skin color, but more toward the assumption that this family is "in it for the money" and "gonna take all the cash, blow it, and expect me to somehow pay for it all" mentality. Is that what you would do? If not, do you have some special incite into what this family is doing? I don't know the right word for that, maybe "classist"?? I work in a large suburban teaching hospital for the last 14 years. I have been personally involved in a few successful and many unsuccessful resuscitation attempts. I have cared for pt's during withdraw of treatment and I have maintained bodies in ICU while awaiting harvest of organs. I have cared for those freshly transplanted as well. I am a card carrying organ donor. I get it. I look at this situation as an opportunity to "talk up" organ donation with those around me and encouraged dialog.

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OrganizedChaos has 10 years experience and works as a LVN.

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I would love for people to see this & think "Great! Sign me up for organ donation" or "Please don't ever let that happen to me". For the people who are "against" what the McMath family is doing, that might happen. But the people "for" the family definitely won't be thinking that way. I have never brought up if they are rich, poor or middle class. People of all races, religions & social class have the ability to do what the McMath family is doing. I'm sure there are people who are "rich" & do the same thing. None of those factors have to do with the situation. I am purely looking at their actions. Not who they are, where they live, how much money their do or do not make or their religion preference.

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Mommy&RN has 6+ years experience and works as a RN.

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oops' date=' sorry. I was reading through comments and felt the need to respond, but didn't have an account. Quickly signed up, but didn't really read through all the specs. I have been a critical care/emergency room RN for 26 years this year. Sorry about the race card. I was just frustrated and chose the wrong word to express myself. I was not directing my criticism so much toward skin color, but more toward the assumption that this family is "in it for the money" and "gonna take all the cash, blow it, and expect me to somehow pay for it all" mentality. Is that what you would do? If not, do you have some special incite into what this family is doing? I don't know the right word for that, maybe "classist"?? I work in a large suburban teaching hospital for the last 14 years. I have been personally involved in a few successful and many unsuccessful resuscitation attempts. I have cared for pt's during withdraw of treatment and I have maintained bodies in ICU while awaiting harvest of organs. I have cared for those freshly transplanted as well. I am a card carrying organ donor. I get it. I look at this situation as an opportunity to "talk up" organ donation with those around me and encouraged dialog.[/quote']

Thank you for your thorough explanation. :)

I too am an organ donor.

The truth remains that there have been countless other people declared brain dead in the past month. I've heard only 1 other case in the news and her family approved organ donation from the other side of the world.

Reading the remarks on the donation page, Facebook page, and the new beginnings facebook pages show the level of ignorance on the matter of brain death. The family was on a media frenzy, right up to when mom became responsible for her remains. Then they went silent. Hopefully the family is coming to terms with her remains true condition.

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november17 has 9 years experience and works as a Nursing Consultant.

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So a family is grieving & all u can think of to do is look up the grandmother's license smh. I have to get of this posted I'm becoming more & more disappointed with my peers.

Actually, if you bother to read the entire paragraph, I looked it up to demonstrate on what a crappy job the "reporters" are doing.

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0.adamantite has 3 years experience.

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I think the biggest issue for me is the precedent this family is trying to set. If families get to decide when death occurs, what's stopping them from keeping grandma on a vent indefinitely? We have very limited resources, and limited ICU beds. As a society we need to prioritize and set limits on how we use these resources. Jahi was taking up space and energy that someone living could have used. I can see the "do everything" families consuming all of our resources quickly if families are allowed to "do what they want" with a deceased relative. Can you imagine care centers full of the deceased?

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Is this still going on? I thought for sure she'd be "dead" by now.

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The brain dead kid is all the proof you need. Maybe your blind and dumb. Ahhh, wait, your a Lawyer. Since you asked, they removed to much of the Posterior oral pharynx, caused the tissue to swell compressed the vessels that run up through the transverse foramen therefore cutting the flow of blood to the brain. The loss of blood was a non issue and the cardiac arrest was do to loss of brain function, they were able to restart the heart but the real damage was done

Found this on one of the message boards......

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The brain dead kid is all the proof you need. Maybe your blind and dumb. Ahhh, wait, your a Lawyer. Since you asked, they removed to much of the Posterior oral pharynx, caused the tissue to swell compressed the vessels that run up through the transverse foramen therefore cutting the flow of blood to the brain. The loss of blood was a non issue and the cardiac arrest was do to loss of brain function, they were able to restart the heart but the real damage was done

Found this on one of the message boards......

Well there you go, mystery solved. Thank goodness this guy knows exactly what happened.... :yawn:

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Every morning I drink my coffee and catch up on this thread and all the links you wonderful people provide. Nothing like a bit of body horror to get the blood flowing!

I would love for people to see this & think "Great! Sign me up for organ donation" or "Please don't ever let that happen to me".

This DEFINITELY served as impetus for me to print off the advanced directives forms for myself, my wife, and my parents! My parents are in their late 60s/early 70s, and this was never something we discussed (as all their parents passed quickly, three of them died at home and were discovered cold). I am so fortunate to never have had to deal with a family member going through this kind of situation - and now hopefully if it does happen in my family, we will at least have a groundwork of "this is what mom wanted" to try to come to terms with.

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