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Girl Brain Dead after Tonsillectomy

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EaglesWings21 is a ASN, RN and specializes in Medical Surgical.

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LadyFree28 has 10 years experience as a BSN, RN and specializes in Pediatrics, Rehab, Trauma.

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An this is where the public support will crumble...or want the family to at least offset funeral costs...

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I wonder what will happen to all the money when they can't find a place to take her. I'm trying to keep thinking that hey are just crazed with grief...I hope they don't prove me wrong. What I wouldn't give to peek at that chart.

Esme, I am wondering the same thing. According to the donation page, they reached their goal. For a family anxious to get their kid out of a hospital, it appears communication about where they plan to send her has been zero with Children's. It would be short of a miracle to coordinate a transfer like this in less than 24 hours, especially if approval is needed from multiple people. I guess at 5pm tomorrow we may have answers.

I would also love to know the 'real' story.

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NicuGal has 30 years experience as a MSN, RN and specializes in NICU, PICU, PACU.

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This whole thing makes me sick... I feel so badly for the staff caring for this child. It just angers me that the family can say whatever they want and no one can say anything in response. And as for the grandmother who Claims to be a nurse, well shame on her. This child has died but she has not been allowed to die with dignity, instead she is a pawn in a huge game. I can tell you those lawyers are egging this on hoping for a huge payout and a huge cut of that payout. I have seen enough of this nonsense in court, nothing to this extent, but they make huge promises to their clients. And no doctor in their right mind is going to do those procedures in fear if this poor child "dying" again. And no one is going to transfer this girl without a stable airway or means to feed her safely. This is just so sad all around, and shame on the judge who is allowing this to happen. My stomach just rolls when I think of this and those nurses and doctors involved in this mess.

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This whole thing makes me sick... I feel so badly for the staff caring for this child. It just angers me that the family can say whatever they want and no one can say anything in response. And as for the grandmother who Claims to be a nurse, well shame on her. This child has died but she has not been allowed to die with dignity, instead she is a pawn in a huge game. I can tell you those lawyers are egging this on hoping for a huge payout and a huge cut of that payout. I have seen enough of this nonsense in court, nothing to this extent, but they make huge promises to their clients. And no doctor in their right mind is going to do those procedures in fear if this poor child "dying" again. And no one is going to transfer this girl without a stable airway or means to feed her safely. This is just so sad all around, and shame on the judge who is allowing this to happen. My stomach just rolls when I think of this and those nurses and doctors involved in this mess.

This is what hospitals get for their overemphasis on "customer service." I am certain that those of us who have been nurses for many years can vouch that this would have never happened years ago. First families were trying to dictate care; now they're trying to dictate when death has/has not occurred.

 

The chickens have come home to roost.

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NicuGal has 30 years experience as a MSN, RN and specializes in NICU, PICU, PACU.

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Amen sister.

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This is what hospitals get for their overemphasis on "customer service." I am certain that those of us who have been nurses for many years can vouch that this would have never happened years ago. First families were trying to dictate care; now they're trying to dictate when death has/has not occurred. The chickens have come home to roost.

^^^^^^^^^^^ I absolutely agree and that drive through mentality is why I left bedside.

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LadyFree28 has 10 years experience as a BSN, RN and specializes in Pediatrics, Rehab, Trauma.

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This is what hospitals get for their overemphasis on "customer service." I am certain that those of us who have been nurses for many years can vouch that this would have never happened years ago. First families were trying to dictate care; now they're trying to dictate when death has/has not occurred. The chickens have come home to roost.

Well I hope for the sweeping back to basic changes. :whistling:

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0.adamantite has 3 years experience and specializes in Acute Care - Adult, Med Surg, Neuro.

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Excuse me for being morbid, but if her brain doesn't had blood flow, wont it start to decompose? I wonder since the family can't "see" the damage, they don't understand. But in reality, they are really keeping what amounts to a headless body alive. I wonder if they would try to keep the poor girl alive decapitated. Makes me sick to my stomach, but I understand how a family with no medical background could have difficulty understanding, as well as get swept up in the media circus.

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psu_213 has 6 years experience as a BSN, RN and specializes in Emergency, Telemetry, Transplant.

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Excuse me for being morbid, but if her brain doesn't had blood flow, wont it start to decompose? I wonder since the family can't "see" the damage, they don't understand. But in reality, they are really keeping what amounts to a headless body alive. I wonder if they would try to keep the poor girl alive decapitated. Makes me sick to my stomach, but I understand how a family with no medical background could have difficulty understanding, as well as get swept up in the media circus.

I would think that the brain atrophies rather than "decomposes." If you really wanted to get ridiculous, you could do an MRI of the brain with perfusion studies and then show those in comparison to a living, healthy brain. However, even this would do no good, as the family is in such a severe level of "denial" (or whatever it is at this point) that they would accuse the hospital of trying to deceive them and tell everyone that the MRI just showed "brain damage."

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KelRN215 has 10 years experience as a BSN, RN and specializes in Pedi.

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Excuse me for being morbid, but if her brain doesn't had blood flow, wont it start to decompose? I wonder since the family can't "see" the damage, they don't understand. But in reality, they are really keeping what amounts to a headless body alive. I wonder if they would try to keep the poor girl alive decapitated. Makes me sick to my stomach, but I understand how a family with no medical background could have difficulty understanding, as well as get swept up in the media circus.

No, it doesn't really decompose. Think of what happens after an ischemic stroke.

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My heart breaks for this mother...I have a 13 year old child myself and I just can't imagine having to let her go. Also, my husband suffered a stroke and was declared brain dead so I have had the experience of watching him lie there seemingly asleep and having to face the reality that he was dead.

That said, the misinformation and false hope that seems to surround this family astounds me. No amount of prayers or money or transfers to a different facility are going to reverse death. There are no miracles to be found here and I hope for their own sake, her family accepts that and lets the girl go.

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According to the gofundme site, the New York facility has backed out too. The mom is blaming the children's hospital for lack of cooperation. I'm starting to feel like this kid is being used as a money making scheme. No way do I believe the hospital isn't cooperating, I'm sure they're desperate to get her out and be done with this.

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