What are your thoughts on the idea of it taking four years to be an RN?

  1. I felt like the last two years of my bachelors was a complete money grab for my university as I learned nothing practical or useful and would have completely at ease graduating at the two year mark.
    Last edit by hydrochloro on Mar 12
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  4. by   Sour Lemon
    Quote from hydrochloro
    I felt like the last two years of my bachelors was a complete money grab for my university as I learned nothing practical or useful and would have completely at ease graduating at the two year mark.
    Why minimize your own education and the education of your peers? Why not just be proud of what you've accomplished?
  5. by   meanmaryjean
    Quote from Sour Lemon
    Why minimize your own education and the education of your peers? Why not just be proud of what you've accomplished?
    Agreed. I'm disturbed that you value your education so little.
  6. by   Euro_Sepsis
    Do you value being the least educated licensed person involved in your paients' care?
  7. by   hydrochloro
    Quote from Sour Lemon
    Why minimize your own education and the education of your peers? Why not just be proud of what you've accomplished?
    Had I been let out two years earlier, I could have gone on to do my masters.
  8. by   meanmaryjean
    Quote from hydrochloro
    Had I been let out two years earlier, I could have gone on to do my masters.
    Why did you not just enroll in an ADN program?

    Clearly, you cannot GET a master's without a bachelor's first, so I really don't see why the sour grapes.
  9. by   Mavrick
    Quote from hydrochloro
    I felt like the last two years of my bachelors was a complete money grab for my university as I learned nothing practical or useful and would have completely at ease graduating at the two year mark.
    It is a shame you spent two years at a University learning nothing.

    A bachelors degree is considered an education that involves much more than how to do tasks for money. That's why there are other classes offered to give you a more well rounded "education".
    Last edit by Mavrick on Mar 12
  10. by   KelRN215
    What kind of program did you attend where you learned everything you needed to know for nursing in the first 2 years? My first 2 years were mostly core classes and then pre-reqs like A&P, chem and Microbiology.
  11. by   Tacomaboy3
    Quote from meanmaryjean
    Clearly, you cannot GET a master's without a bachelor's first, so I really don't see why the sour grapes.
    Well, this isn't 100% correct - there are numerous graduate programs that do NOT require a bachelor's degree. Clearly.

    I can think of two off the top of my head: Western Governors University and Gonzaga University both have RN-MSN programs specifically designed for RNs without BSNs or other bachelor's degrees. I think theses programs are great for experienced nurses looking for a specific career move who don't want to waste money and time in undergrad.

    #exceptionstotherule
  12. by   meanmaryjean
    Quote from Tacomaboy3
    Well, this isn't 100% correct - there are numerous graduate programs that do NOT require a bachelor's degree. Clearly.

    I can think of two off the top of my head: Western Governors University and Gonzaga University both have RN-MSN programs specifically designed for RNs without BSNs or other bachelor's degrees. I think theses programs are great for experienced nurses looking for a specific career move who don't want to waste money and time in undergrad.

    #exceptionstotherule
    Wgu grants the BSN en route.
  13. by   Tacomaboy3
    Quote from meanmaryjean
    Wgu grants the BSN en route.
    You're correct about WGU my bad. Nonetheless, there are still graduate programs out there that don't require a bachelor's degree. Many are diploma mills, but there are still reputable schools with ADN-MSN programs out there like Gonzaga or the University of Arizona. Heck, you could even go to law school and earn your JD without a bachelor's degree at Western Michigan University.

    With rising tuition prices and increased debt loads, I understand your concern. Return on your academic investment should always be a consideration, unless you just have a boatload of money or are pursuing something 100% out of passion.
  14. by   verene
    What made the last two years so worthless for you? Most of the 4 year BSN programs in my area are 2 year pre-reqs and general ed followed by 2 years of nursing specific classes so I am a little lost as to how the last two years were worthless as those are the core classes for becoming an RN.

    Unless you went through some sort of alternate pathway? Resenting the BSN portion seems to be a some what common theme for those who bridge ADN-BSN. I'm guessing that taking theory on it's own while actively working it can feel pretty disconnected from real-life. But bridge programs are usually 9-12 months, not two years.

    Furthermore why does spending two more years in school completing a BSN preclude you from one day going on to get a Master's?

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