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I'm just getting the bad news from some of my friends who found out on late on Friday that they're being withdrawn from the program. The nursing dept dropped a surprise math exam on all of us at the... Read More

May 17, '04Joined: Feb '04; Posts: 74; Likes: 1My gosh that seems harsh... I can see taking math classes, or having to prove additional math competancy, but drop the whole program? Eee gads!
I'm sorry for your friends hon, they have my sympathy!
Michelle 
May 17, '04From: US ; Joined: Sep '03; Posts: 63; Likes: 18Dang! After reading this, I'm glad that I dont go to your school!

May 17, '04Occupation: SRNA Specialty: 1 year(s) of experience in CVICU ; Joined: Oct '03; Posts: 666; Likes: 6I am still a prenursing student. What level of math are we talking about that one as a nurse needs to do? Anyone care to share some specific examples of how math is used?

May 17, '04Joined: Dec '03; Posts: 37,336; Likes: 5,525Drug calculations................basic algebra is used. If you have trouble with the math, how are you going to figure out the right amount of medication to give to your patient. If the quiz was just given, and this is the end of the year, they should have known how to solve any type of those problems.
Remember, someone's life depends on it. It could be you or your mother who is the patient..........what would you want done then? 
May 17, '04Occupation: SRNA Specialty: 1 year(s) of experience in CVICU ; Joined: Oct '03; Posts: 666; Likes: 6Quote from suzanne4I understand the importance of math in nursing. I know personally if I don't use some of it, I forgot it and need a refresher. I am studying for the NET test now and did not remember how to work with exponents becuase I don't use them that often. I reviewed it and will be fine for the NET next week. But if you asked me in six months, I may not be able to do it off the top of my head.Drug calculations................basic algebra is used. If you have trouble with the math, how are you going to figure out the right amount of medication to give to your patient. If the quiz was just given, and this is the end of the year, they should have known how to solve any type of those problems.
Remember, someone's life depends on it. It could be you or your mother who is the patient..........what would you want done then?
It is just a good heads up to make sure you practice, practice, practice any math skill you are weak at. 
May 17, '04Occupation: Class of 2008 !!! Joined: Sep '03; Posts: 2,978; Likes: 78Could someone write an example of a typical math problem that would be used to calculate a med based on say body mass or weight? Thanks.

May 17, '04Joined: Mar '04; Posts: 96; Likes: 5Quote from dansamyHi dansamy,Well, that's just effing great! You mean after we take the stinking allornothing dosage calculation test, we can still be booted for math at any time?!?!? That's really sad for your classmates. I'm sure you're breathing a sigh of relief right about now since you passed it. I'm pretty good in math, but I HATE pop quizzes.
I've seen some of your other posts and I am pretty sure that we go to the same school. I am starting my 2nd semester in the RN program this summer. I just wanted to let you know that we do not have pop quizzes on math. We just have the dosage calculations test once every semester, you have to make 100%, and you get 3 trys to do so. It's really not as big of a deal as it seems. Your Pharmacology class will more than prepare you, and it is easier than the tests that you take in class. just an FYI for you
If you want any info or heads up about the program just let me know. 
May 17, '04Joined: Dec '03; Posts: 37,336; Likes: 5,525Quote from z's playaYou have an infant that weighs 4.2 kg. He needs to receive gentamicin @1.1mg/kg. How much are you going to give and what is the rate that you are going to give it at using microdrip tubing.Could someone write an example of a typical math problem that would be used to calculate a med based on say body mass or weight? Thanks.
OR
You have an adult patient that weighs 68 kg. You need to give dobutamine at 2.3 mcg/kg/min. What are you going to do?
Hope that this helps..................... 
May 17, '04Occupation: Obs Unit Specialty: Telemetry & Obs ; From: US ; Joined: Oct '03; Posts: 2,412; Likes: 1,820In first semester we had to pass the med calc test in order to continue in the program, no matter what our other grades were. Tomorrow we have another med calc test that we have to pass with at least an 85...thereafter, we must pass 100%.
There's no room in nursing for math errors. 
May 17, '04Occupation: Secretary UGH! ITS A GREAT DAY AT PRUDENTIAL PARTNERS REAL ESTATE! HOW MAY I DIRECT YOUR CALL!?! Joined: Mar '04; Posts: 82
Im so HORRIBLE at math its not even funny!
How difficult can this stuff get! :uhoh21: 
May 17, '04Occupation: Class of 2008 !!! Joined: Sep '03; Posts: 2,978; Likes: 78Quote from suzanne4Great! I have no clue how to solve it.You have an infant that weighs 4.2 kg. He needs to receive gentamicin @1.1mg/kg. How much are you going to give and what is the rate that you are going to give it at using microdrip tubing.
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You have an adult patient that weighs 68 kg. You need to give dobutamine at 2.3 mcg/kg/min. What are you going to do?
Hope that this helps..................... 
May 17, '04Joined: Apr '04; Posts: 12Do they at least allow you to use a calculator when you take these exams?

May 17, '04Joined: Dec '03; Posts: 37,336; Likes: 5,525Quote from z's playaNow you can see how important it is to know your math.Great! I have no clue how to solve it.
Many programs will allow you to use a calculator, but remember that those only work when you know what numbers that you have to use to plug into the equations. Otherwise it will be useless. Back when I was in school, we weren't even allowed to use calculators for any class. Only slide rules!