Reading alot of posts discussing "A" nursing students vs "C" nursing students - page 10

I still want to voice my opinion. Lately, I've been reading alot of post discussing "A" nursing students verses "C" nursing students. It breaks my heart that there are students that are so hung up on... Read More

  1. by   ~Mi Vida Loca~RN
    I will be trying hard to maintain A's in Nursing School, and if I do maintain those A's I can guarantee that I will NOT have the attitude seen by some in this thread. I am very thankful that not all people behave in such a manner and have such poor attitudes.

    Common sense will tell you that not all A students will behave a certain way or even most, and not all C students behave a certain way, or most.

    The constant tit for tat in this thread and assumptions are coming from BOTH parties, and both parties are trying to justify it.

    So in the end, BOTH parties are putting down and accusing others by doing the SAME thing they are apparently against. Ironic really, or maybe not.


    FYI, in my post I am not saying ALL posters are doing this.
  2. by   1nurse2be
    Preach! Preach! Tell em' again because they didnt hear you! I totally agree with you.
  3. by   fiveofpeep
    I guess we B and C students are more laid back about our lives.
    Arrrgh! Why do people say things like this? I have a 4.00 and have a pretty good balance in my life and I may hold myself to high standards but I am not the definition of a type A person. I just dont get the animosity...who cares.

    I also think that in this economy people are more rigid about grades and maintaining a certain GPA because it is more of a selling point in this environment.

    ....
    And a few posts back someone felt that my post was in response to them...I didnt read the whole thread word for word because Im on vacation, but I think my response was more general and not pointed at anyone's response.
  4. by   afranklin
    I am so sad that some nurses think less of those who cannot make all A's; have

    you ever considered that maybe, just maybe, the instructors were not good at

    what they do? Or, maybe, just maybe, some nursing students do work hard, and,

    study hard, but still have trouble getting A's? I believe that if your heart is in

    the right place, you will be a good nurse, a competent nurse and God will give

    you the wisdom you need, at the moment you need.

    Just my 2cents so please don't be critical or condesending; have a heart for

    those of us who Do want to be as good as all you straight A students but just

    aren't!

    And, it's only your opinion to say that people start to say things like "it's too hard, I can't, etc. I never have.
  5. by   ProfRN4
    Quote from afranklin

    have you ever considered that maybe, just maybe, the instructors were not good at
    what they do?
    Talk about generalizing :chuckle


    Or, maybe, just maybe, some nursing students do work hard, and,

    study hard, but still have trouble getting A's?

    This is absolutely the case for some. But not for all. The problem is, very few will admit that they are NOT trying hard enough. It's easier to blame it on something (or somoene) else.
  6. by   beachbutterfly
    Quote from nurse educate
    Talk about generalizing :chuckle





    This is absolutely the case for some. But not for all. The problem is, very few will admit that they are NOT trying hard enough. It's easier to blame it on something (or somoene) else.
    I remember I had one terrible instructor during my NS experience;she had a very thick accent,majority of the lecture was spent on listening to her bragging about her nursing experiences,not only that she also exhibited a terrible and unprofessional manners during clinicals;she took joy in scolding students.90% of people flunked the first OB test because of her ineffective teaching way;among those students there were also A students,the test was revised and we got some extra points.So I assure you in every nursing school there is at least few instructors that doesnt know a rat's behind about teaching.
    Also there arent that many A students in Nursing school,not because people are lazy,not intelligent etc but because nursing tests are a different style of tests.Sometimes test questions are ridicolous and two answers are right,plus the test material requires critical thinking that was not taught to us in other classes,majors.When we first enter the nursing school we are not used to applying our knowledge in order to quess the answer,we are used to memorizing and getting our A that way.So to assume that a lots of people dont try hard enough is understatement to say at least.
    Let me be the first heroic,brave student to admit I am a B,C sometimes A student who dont really care about making all A through out Nursing school.Now that doesnt mean that I dont know my material?,I obviously passed all my required tests,clinicals, and graduated,got my job references.I proud of my self and my accomplishments,plan to be the best nurse I can be and sleep at night without giving a second though about my grades transcript.
    I have to admit though that just as much as it is hard for some nursing students to admit that they didnt try to hard enough to make A,it is as hard for nursing instructors to admit to the same.
    Last edit by beachbutterfly on May 27, '09
  7. by   trepinCT
    Quote from beachbutterfly
    I remember I had one terrible instructor during my NS experience;she had a very thick accent,majority of the lecture was spent on listening to her bragging about her nursing experiences,not only that she also exhibited a terrible and unprofessional manners during clinicals;she took joy in scolding students.90 of people flunked the first OB test because of her innefective teaching way;among those students there were also A students,the test was revised and we got some extra points.So I assure you in every nursing school there is at least few instructors that doesnt know a rat's behind about teaching.
    Also there arent that many A students in Nursing school,not because people are lazy,not intelligent etc but because nursing tests are a different style of tests.Sometimes test questions are ridicolous and two answers are right,plus the test material requires critical thinking that was not taught to us in other classes,majors.When we first enter the nursing school we are not used to applying our knowledge in order to quess the answer,we are used to memorizing and getting our A that way.So to assume that a lots of people dont try hard enough is understatement to say at least.
    Let me be the first heroic,brave student to admit I am a B,C sometimes A student who dont really care about making all A through out Nursing school.Now that doesnt mean that I dont know my material?,I obviously passed all my required tests,clinicals, and graduated,got my job references.I proud of my self and my accomplishments,plan to be the best nurse I can be and sleep at night without giving a second though about my grades transcript.
    I have to admit though that just as much as it is hard for some nursing students to admit that they didnt try to hard enough to make A,it is as hard same for nursing instructors to admit that they didnt try hard enough to be good supportive teachers.



    THANK YOU!!!!! the fact is in my case I was Deans list until nursing school..its a whole different arena..I also have to laugh about it because some of the self proclaimed A students in my nursing class scored lower than me on the ATI predictor test and somehow must have been left off the Deans list every semester too..hmm..?? and when we graduated, our class of 68 nursing students..only a handful graduated with honors..and somehow the braggers got left off that list too...and somehow we all survived nursing school and all names on that graduation list, regardless of GPA worked hard and succeeded in a rigorous program... the world cannot( and should not) be filled with only the A students..of all the jobs I applied to , only 2 of the 6 asked for my transcript..boy was I nervous because I was up against the same job with classmates whos GPAs were higher..funny, this C student landed a job at one of those places that requested a transcript..and the B student? shes still looking....
  8. by   beachbutterfly
    Quote from trepinCT
    THANK YOU!!!!! the fact is in my case I was Deans list until nursing school..its a whole different arena..I also have to laugh about it because some of the self proclaimed A students in my nursing class scored lower than me on the ATI predictor test and somehow must have been left off the Deans list every semester too..hmm..?? and when we graduated, our class of 68 nursing students..only a handful graduated with honors..and somehow the braggers got left off that list too...and somehow we all survived nursing school and all names on that graduation list, regardless of GPA worked hard and succeeded in a rigorous program... the world cannot( and should not) be filled with only the A students..of all the jobs I applied to , only 2 of the 6 asked for my transcript..boy was I nervous because I was up against the same job with classmates whos GPAs were higher..funny, this C student landed a job at one of those places that requested a transcript..and the B student? shes still looking....
    I trully dont believe that nursing manager looks at your grade transcripts,seriously,they may prefer someone with higher degree (like BSN) but when there is a nursing shortage they will hire any warm body with RN license or otherwise how would you explain all the new graduates who landed a job or the ones who just walks on the hospital unit and the manager hired them on spot,or for the matter of fact being hired immediately at the job fair or being hired as a internal applicant or just knowing people.
    Seriously this is a very childish competition.
  9. by   Eaglelady
    I tend to think grades do not make a nurse but I seen some of my classmates that were A's and I would not want them to cover my back EVER--and the same for those who made all C's cause they claimed they never opened a book--I was a A and B student and I know I am going to be the BEST nurse and advocate for my patient that I can be so I believe its all in the attitude not the grade that makes a nurse--just my opinion though
  10. by   Eaglelady
    Quote from nurse educate
    Talk about generalizing :chuckle





    This is absolutely the case for some. But not for all. The problem is, very few will admit that they are NOT trying hard enough. It's easier to blame it on something (or somoene) else.
    Well I am a studier always have been for 3 yrs I had no life whatsoever all I did was stay in the books and now that I have graduated I find myself studying day and night every chance I get for the NCLEX but I still got A's and B's mostly B's but than again I have always been a B person but I am proud that I graduated and I am very proud that I gave it all I had and still made it and to me thats all that matters now
  11. by   jhidalgo75
    Hi,

    Thank you so much for posting this. I don't feel so horrible anymore. I am currently taking prerequisites to enter into a nursing program at a community college and I am struggling with A and P. I mean, I should have taken this class during a regular semester instead of as a summer class but it is one of the prerequisite courses for the program and the deadline is August 31st. Arrrrrghhhh!!! The tests are 60% of the grade. The teach drops the lowest grade. My lowest grade is a 72 so far and my highest is a 77. We have only taken 2 tests. I have always been a good A and B student. I am busting my butte to get a a C on these tests because they include 4 chapters at a time. Anyway, I have learned my lesson and will never take another one of these classes in the summer. I might retake it again in the Fall if I don't at least get a B.

    Thank you for posting this. I do believe that when it comes to the nitty gritty, the most important thing is quality care in nursing not only GPA.

    Janet
  12. by   2bnursejacksonrn
    Some of this stuff is so ridiculous! Who do these "A" people think they are, looking down their noses at others? I make A's and B's but i was brought up with humility and respect. I would never say that I or anyone else was a better nurse because of a grade. Dont nurses have enough to deal with, with Doctors and pts, and pts families, that now, they have to face a firing squad OF THEIR PEERS:angryfire over C grades? Wow. Im almost done with school and I pray to God that I dont meet any nurses like some of the snooty, self righteous, biggots I've seen post on here. God forbid they made a mistake on the job that cost someone their life, you think the family will give a flying f@@@@@ what grade the nurse that just killed their beloved got in school?! I dont think so. And I dobt the "A" student will be thinking about that either.
    Last edit by 2bnursejacksonrn on May 27, '09 : Reason: TYPO
  13. by   Patchouli
    this has got to be the most nauseating thread i have ever read! although i agree that people should obviously strive to do their best while in school, i think it's insane to compare grades with one another. i assure you that in my school, with the way they do the grading system, my b is technically higher than some of your as. in other schools, the system may be higher than ours. i was a 4.0 student (prereqs) before starting actual nursing school. now, i'm a 3.something. not only was the content much harder, but the grading system changed. you have to make an 86% at my school to be considered a b student. that's the very lowest percent to make a b. no rounding up at my school, no bonuses. so, to compare one nursing program to another is absolute stupidity. there are lots of c students in my program, some graduated with an 85%, and they are still c students! you guys need to get a grip. i can tell you that i worked my butt off for my b. my school ( a community college) is well known for the wonderful nurses it produces. hospitals love to hire our nursing students. tons of clinical time, and tough curriculum. then of course, one needs to also look at the person as a whole. some people are raising families without outside help. some people have serious health problems. some are so broke that they eat ramen noodles every night. some have dealt with death of loved ones, divorce, loss of homes, etc. while in the program. some have dealt with multiples of these issues! at what point did you guys stop critically thinking? if you judge your patients like you judge others, i'd hate to be in their shoes! it's terrific to be proud of your accomplishments, but pride comes at a cost when you let it consume you. passing judgment on others (like i've read here) is a definant character flaw!

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