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hi, f.y.i.

if you are applying to lpn school that is part of a public school system (like a tech center ) ..did you know they can only have you take a physical to see if your physically capable. they can not ask you about your mental or physical health history.

the americans with disabilities act title 2 forbids it - they are a "public "entity ...( i don't know about private schools)

(for more specific info. go to -

http://www.doer.state.mn.us/odeo-ada/adat2/ad-t2a02.htm )

i'm applying at a school which is clearly in violation of this law & i reported it to the superintendant of the school system & he was shocked that the application had this question -

"have you ever been treated for a mental, nervous , or major physical disorder ? if so attach explanation "

he said he would look into it immediately , & that he didn't want to be in violation of the a.d.a. !

hope this helps someone

Originally posted by dijmart

i'm applying at a school which is clearly in violation of this law & i reported it to the superintendant of the school system & he was shocked that the application had this question -

Good for you for taking action to correct the situation. Having dealt with the public school system regarding one of my children, I have experienced other violations of the Americans with Disabilities Act. Either (in my case) the school didn't think anyone would catch the violation because most people don't know their rights under the law, or they were just ignorant of the law themselves. Whatever the case, a well written letter stating that they are in violation of Federal Law usually brings fast results.

Good luck to you in getting into the program. I agree that your capabilities at present should be what is taken into consideration for admission.

(I have seen them push someone out b/c they had seizures and called them a liability... Did I agree, no.. But they did let her back in b/c she sued them... )

nurs2b,

i understand your position now, but you said it yourself in your post they discriminated at your school & the person had to go as far as to sue to get back in .....that's sad!!!!

rn2bnc,

thanks for your comments... the superintentant said that the application was probably just "old " & never revised

& he said no one has ever complained before in twenty years.

i told him what you said "maybe no one new it's against the law !"

Specializes in Pediatrics, Geriatrics, Call Center RN.

I think it is a good idea, if you are handicapped mentally or physically that the school know. There are certain things that can help make your education easier. As well as sparking some soul searching to make sure the person is up to the task. Going to nursing school RN or LPN is very rigorous(sp) and being exhausted and over stressed can exacerbate these issues. I in no way believe someone with those types of illnesses should be held back. My own daughter is handicapped. But the person needs effective resources or ways to cope. I wish you luck in the nursing program. I'm sure you will do great!:)

rn2blpn4now,

let me just say that i have chosen to disclose my m.s. which i failed to state earlier but that's because i want to answer the question since it was posed. why i'm making a stink about it is because the question should not have been asked to begin with. i had planned all along for myself that i would disclose "after" i was accepted not before, unless i had to.... i will not answer further questions regarding it though on my interview.

i don't want anyone else to look at that application like i did & wonder am i going to be judged for my disease or for who i am & what i can do.

i also want to say i know it's rigorous ,ect. i used to work in an emergency room (as a tech ) i know full well what is expected. i wouldn't want "special" treatment even if they offered it . i want to be treated like everyone else that's the point !

no offense, i know your trying to help

originally posted by nurs2b

well if this student had her situation under control then it wouldn't be a problem.. so i guess they just need to let everyone in and when they snap then they can force them out...

my goodness, this attitude makes me so sad. many people suffer from depression and mental illness. mental illness is treatable. i shudder to think of any employer or educational institution that would anticipate an employee or student to "snap" and then "force them out".

i encourage you to review the code of ethics for nurses. a nurse has 4 fundamental responsibilites that include promoting health, preventing illness, restoring health and alleviating suffering.

inherent in nursing is respect for human rights, including the right to life, to dignity and to be treated with respect. nursing care is unrestricted by considerations of age, color, creed, culture

, disability , or illness , gender, nationality, politics, race or social status.

a bipolar person, or a bipolar patient should never be referred to as one of "those" people.

i truly hope that what you posted is not a reflection of your attitude or behavior toward mentally ill people. this is not what nursing or nurses are about.

rapheal,

your view is refreshing!!! thanks....i had suffered w/ depression as a part of m.s. & can totally sympathize w/ "any" disability....not just a physical one.....i think some people aren't relating to this topic because they don't understand that it could very easily have been them that we're discussing...anyone can get an illness at any time during thier life, depending on what cards your dealt!

Specializes in Pediatrics, Geriatrics, Call Center RN.
Originally posted by dijmart

i also want to say i know it's rigorous ,ect. i used to work in an emergency room (as a tech ) i know full well what is expected. i wouldn't want "special" treatment even if they offered it . i want to be treated like everyone else that's the point !

no offense, i know your trying to help

It sounds by your attitude that you will make a fine nurse!!!

:)

thank you

can anyone tell me ( i'm new here) how to take a portion of someone elses post & add it to your own? i know how to use regular comp. "edit" button copy & paste but it doesn't look right?

by the way, isn't this monkey face hilarious!!!!

Specializes in Pediatrics, Geriatrics, Call Center RN.
Originally posted by dijmart

can anyone tell me ( i'm new here) how to take a portion of someone elses post & add it to your own? i know how to use regular comp. "edit" button copy & paste but it doesn't look right?

At the bottom right hand corner of that post that you want to quote there is a button that says quote. Hit that and it brings you to the area to right your message.

:cool:

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