HESI question: Please Read all the way. - page 3

Ok. My HESI scores have been as follows: (I recently just "finished" an ADN program this month 1.) 600 (I took the first one when we had three weeks left of our third semester. I admit, I was... Read More

  1. by   Bicster
    We dont need people who cannot pass a test 4 times, suing to become nurses.
  2. by   jollydogg_RN
    Quote from Bicster
    We dont need people who cannot pass a test 4 times, suing to become nurses.
    even if i DID bring forth a lawsuit, i still wouldn't become a nurse.

    i would still have to pass the NCLEX. people who take 3-4 times to pass the nclex STILL HAVE A DEGREE TO SHOW FOR NURSING SCHOOL.

    the whole point of this argument is that I DO NOT. i pass the curriculum, and yet if i fail this HESI this time, my B's and C's i received for 30+ hours of nursing school becomes Fs.

    i wouldn't be able to apply anywhere to school. my gpa would be so terribly bad i would enter any school under academic probation. i know i am not this stupid.

    like the previous poster said, this is a third party examination. when our instructors tell us on the first attempt "you'll probably fail it... just do your best" you know there is something terribly wrong with the way we are prepared for it and the way it is administered. there is supposed to be INSTRUCTOR DRIVEN remediation for this exam, as outlined in the professor's handbook for the administration for this test, yet we are told "you must remediate on your own" when 25% of the class is STILL taking this exam, you know something is wrong.

    its ok, we've already took action. our student affairs is talking with the president of the school. we aren't letting some "pre" test hold us from our boards, which we deserve to take. thanks betty jo.

    oh and bicster, life must be so rough for you that all you do is come on these forums and post negatively all the time.

    and cardiacRN... our HESI was hard too.

    i dont need any of you damn haters saying i cant or dont deserve to be a nurse. you dont know me, so don't pretend you do.
  3. by   cardiacRN2006
    Sue because a person can't pass a test??? Lol. It's always got to be somebody else's fault, now doesn't it.....

    lol
  4. by   truern
    Quote from jollydogg
    people who take 3-4 times to pass the nclex STILL HAVE A DEGREE TO SHOW FOR NURSING SCHOOL.
    And?? A nursing degree is worthless unless one passes NCLEX. Unfortunately for you, you have to pass HESI before you can take the NCLEX...something you knew going into nursing school.
  5. by   ~Mi Vida Loca~RN
    What is a passing score for the HESI, I am just curious.

    I hope it all works out for you.
  6. by   goodstudentnowRN
    Quote from Bicster
    We dont need people who cannot pass a test 4 times, suing to become nurses.
    Bicster,

    You do not have to be so mean to the student. I can imagine how you would talk to your patients without tact. Boy oh boy, I guess you have passed your Hesi but you need to pass the therapeutic communication class.
  7. by   cardiacRN2006
    Quote from goodnursingstudent
    Bicster,

    You do not have to be so mean to the student. I can imagine how you would talk to your patients without tact. Boy oh boy, I guess you have passed your Hesi but you need to pass the therapeutic communication class.

    Why? Because they spoke the truth? And because you didn't like what you heard?

    This isn't about informing a pt that thay have cancer, it's about preventing students who AREN"T prepared for nursing to pass because they complained loud enough.

    Can't pass the test, can't be a nurse. No 'therapeutic' comminication, sugar coating, baby talk, etc needed to state that.
  8. by   jollydogg_RN
    Quote from cardiacRN2006
    Why? Because they spoke the truth? And because you didn't like what you heard?

    This isn't about informing a pt that thay have cancer, it's about preventing students who AREN"T prepared for nursing to pass because they complained loud enough.

    Can't pass the test, can't be a nurse. No 'therapeutic' comminication, sugar coating, baby talk, etc needed to state that.
    once again, this isnt the nclex i cant pass.

    as i stated, 5-7 of us could have passed this exam, but were strung up by technical difficulties during the exams.

    sometimes there ARE situations that call for action, even during a test. do i not deserve a test that i can answer ALL the questions too? i put thousands of dollars into my schooling, so if this exit exam is the only thing holding me back from my career, do i not deserve a test thats error free? you seem to have not even responded to that aspect, but keep saying "that shouldnt be an issue. you arent smart enough you arent prepared"

    well, sorry to say, it IS an issue. if we're being held back by a third party exam, we deserve one that we can answer all the questions too.

    im sure if there was a couple of questions on the NCLEX examination that graphs didnt pop open for you to answer, then maybe it would be a bigger deal to you. ive just learned my lesson on the hesi. from now on if something happens like that, im going to refuse to take the rest of the exam.

    sorry some of you are so high up on your almighty high horse that you refuse to see potential problems with the system because YOU achieved such high standards. it doesn't mean there isnt an issue at hand.

    5-7 of us OBVIOUSLY were prepared if we could have reached the 850 mark on the hesi, but we're held back by technical errors. the "should have had more padding" issue is neither here or there. the issue is with the technical difficulties. we deserve a retake on the exam. there is no denying that.

    sooner or later you'll tumble off your high horse, so im not worried. karma is a you know what =)

    and bicster i think is still in nursing school. if so, he has a lot to learn about communication.
  9. by   Silverdragon102
    OK guys, things are getting a bit heated and a bit personal.

    Each state has their own requirements when sitting the NCLEX exam, some can do it as many times as they fail where others have a limit. We know some people do have test taking problems. We should be more supportive and encouraging among each other.

    Some people have to take HESI and pass before they are allowed to graduate, taking any exam is stressful at the best of times but when added factors of interference either environmental or physical should be at a minimum and if this isn't happening then the establishment really has a duty of care to get it sorted

    If you are going to have debates please keep it constructive and polite and no personal attacks.
  10. by   CuriousMe
    Quote from jollydogg
    once again, this isnt the nclex i cant pass.

    as i stated, 5-7 of us could have passed this exam, but were strung up by technical difficulties during the exams.

    sometimes there ARE situations that call for action, even during a test. do i not deserve a test that i can answer ALL the questions too? i put thousands of dollars into my schooling, so if this exit exam is the only thing holding me back from my career, do i not deserve a test thats error free? you seem to have not even responded to that aspect, but keep saying "that shouldnt be an issue. you arent smart enough you arent prepared"

    well, sorry to say, it IS an issue. if we're being held back by a third party exam, we deserve one that we can answer all the questions too.

    im sure if there was a couple of questions on the NCLEX examination that graphs didnt pop open for you to answer, then maybe it would be a bigger deal to you. ive just learned my lesson on the hesi. from now on if something happens like that, im going to refuse to take the rest of the exam.

    sorry some of you are so high up on your almighty high horse that you refuse to see potential problems with the system because YOU achieved such high standards. it doesn't mean there isnt an issue at hand.

    5-7 of us OBVIOUSLY were prepared if we could have reached the 850 mark on the hesi, but we're held back by technical errors. the "should have had more padding" issue is neither here or there. the issue is with the technical difficulties. we deserve a retake on the exam. there is no denying that.

    sooner or later you'll tumble off your high horse, so im not worried. karma is a you know what =)

    and bicster i think is still in nursing school. if so, he has a lot to learn about communication.
    I think what folks are trying to get across is that if you weren't so close to the pass mark, the issue of a problem on one (possibly two) of the 4 times you took your exams would never have been an issue. They're not ignoring the technical difficulty, they're just suggesting that you put yourself in a position where your fate hangs by one question. You say that this is about the fact that you've paid X amount of dollars and deserve an error free exam....but if you had passed would you be this worked up over the same technical issue?

    I wish the best to you on your 5th exam.

    Peace,
    CuriousMe
  11. by   jollydogg_RN
    Quote from Silverdragon102
    OK guys, things are getting a bit heated and a bit personal.

    Each state has their own requirements when sitting the NCLEX exam, some can do it as many times as they fail where others have a limit. We know some people do have test taking problems. We should be more supportive and encouraging among each other.

    Some people have to take HESI and pass before they are allowed to graduate, taking any exam is stressful at the best of times but when added factors of interference either environmental or physical should be at a minimum and if this isn't happening then the establishment really has a duty of care to get it sorted

    If you are going to have debates please keep it constructive and polite and no personal attacks.
    this is my point. there has been problems with HESI 1, and multiple complaints and nothing done.

    one time it was 84 degrees in the room, so maintenence came in DURING the test and used drills and equipment on the thermostat while we were using the room for the exam.

    we should have all banded together on day 1 when this crap happened and voiced our opinions THEN... but we were told we'd have no limit on chances.... then right before this one we were told all of a sudden it was our last chance or we'd fail.

    couple that with the story im telling you, and you can see why im frustrated. a complete lack of professor concern, a complete lack of them relaying information about errors with the exam to the dean.
    (the dean of nursing said the first time she heard about errors with hesi exams was after our 4th attempt, so it was too late to do anything about it. apparently the president of student affairs for the college disagrees =)

    so yes, thats why i have an issue. ive rarely made less than 80% on any nursing exam this year, most of the time between 86-90%. i feel i have a great concept of how look at material and understand it.

    however, when youre given an exam (dont think elsevier makes these "prediction" exams to NOT make money for school to protect their pass rates) and you have nothing in your curriculum to acclimate you to them, then its an issue. also, especially when you combine this with the problems im talking about.

    go ahead, judge me, i dont know you and you dont know me. you negative posters amuse me, cause id laugh if you talk to me or any of my friends in the manner in person as you would on here.

    like i said, life must be so rough if you have to prove yourself and validate yourself on here to be so negative to people on here also.
  12. by   jollydogg_RN
    Quote from CuriousMe
    I think what folks are trying to get across is that if you weren't so close to the pass mark, the issue of a problem on one (possibly two) of the 4 times you took your exams would never have been an issue. They're not ignoring the technical difficulty, they're just suggesting that you put yourself in a position where your fate hangs by one question. You say that this is about the fact that you've paid X amount of dollars and deserve an error free exam....but if you had passed would you be this worked up over the same technical issue?

    I wish the best to you on your 5th exam.

    Peace,
    CuriousMe
    yes. i would. and other people are too... even though they passed the second, third, and fourth times.

    we have their support too... simply because this is only the tip of the iceberg for the problems we've encountered while going through this nursing program.
  13. by   cardiacRN2006
    Quote from jollydogg
    one time it was 84 degrees in the room, so maintenence came in DURING the test and used drills and equipment on the thermostat while we were using the room for the exam.


    .

    Lol! Now we are blaming it on the temperature in the room!

    Fact is, you should be able to pass by now. In the heat, in the cold, etc. You should have figured this out my now. You have taken the test 4 times. When are you going to sit down and re-evaluate your study habits? A few technical difficulties isn't good enough. Like I mentioned, I had my computer shut down during me test! I almost didn't finish first because of it. And I bet I could have lawyered up to get me score from the 1198 it was to 1200 that I deserved since I had difficulties...

    Lol.


    I love it when people run out of debate, and resort to calling names, like "high horse". Honey, I studied. No high horse. I worked at it. Those of us who work at things and do well deserve to enjoy them. Calling people names just because you can't do the same won't help your cause. It just comes across as insecurity.


    Like we've ALL said before-study, instead of getting so angry on an anonymous web forum.

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