Group project rant

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It really annoys me when you have a total of 4 people involved in a group project, two are actually doing the work, one doesn't even bother to show up for class (or shows up over an hour late when he does) or contact us (i've contacted him several times with no replies, except for "i'm workin' on it" and never elaborates just what "it" is even after asking), the other sits around during class and whines "i don't know what we're ("we're???") doing" yet hasn't even begun to research their their part of it, but has plenty of time to text-message her b/f while we're supposed to be discussing this project (yes, i pointed out how inconsiderate the cell phone thing was). It is not up to the others in her group to hold her hand and to point her in the direction. I'm all for helping someone, but she needs to stop using the desk for a footstool, and use it to write ideas on. Not to mention stop using the school computer for AIM, and use it for project research, which is why the prof. sent us in the comp room to start with. How many professors do you know that will take an hour of class time, to dedicate to internet researching. Most would say "do it at home."

This presentation, along with a 2000 word essay to accompany it is due next Tuesday (8 days from now).

The prof. said that if we had any problems to let him know (just emailed him for the 3rd time over this). And i'm really hoping that mine and the other guy's grade are not affected by those that aren't taking this seriously. I know the other guy got tired of sounding like a broken record, trying to figure out what the other two are doing, etc. And i'm sick and tired of both of us killing ourselves for this project, and other people not giving a crap if they help or not.

Cannot wait till this class is over. I'm all for teamwork, if the whole team participates, but since that's not the case, i'd rather not have group projects.

The other person in the group didn't do their presentation. Another zero. When asked why, he gave no reason. At least he admitted that he got the emails, and didn't respond in detail even after being asked repeatedly. Thank God it's over.

I can live with the names "snitch" and "rat" if it means doing what's right for the situation. ;)

Just curious, what if it was like a non graded group project. And you were in the same situation. How would you react to it?

I am not a TROLL.. I am just asking.

Specializes in 5 yrs OR, ASU Pre-Op 2 yr. ER.
Just curious, what if it was like a non graded group project. And you were in the same situation. How would you react to it?

I am not a TROLL.. I am just asking.

No different that i did for this one, it just so happens this one was graded.

There's a lot to be said for integrity.

As for the rest of my answer, i've already stated it, but here it is again:

No one likes group projects typically, but i wouldn't nearly dislike them so much if it weren't for people who are willing to sit back and let others do their work for them.

Sounds pretty selfish to assume others to do the work, simply because somone doesn't like group projects. Has nothing to do with intelligence, it's called pulling your weight.

No different that i did for this one, it just so happens this one was graded.

There's a lot to be said for integrity.

As for the rest of my answer, i've already stated it, but here it is again:

I dont think it is right. When you work on projects that are non graded, some students are not going to show up or would care less about the assigment because it carries no weight. And you would rat those people out also to the instructor on a non graded group assignment. I am not a TROLL but I do not agree with you handling the situation like that. It is best that students avoid you.

Specializes in LTC/Peds/ICU/PACU/CDI.
the other person in the group didn't do their presentation. another zero. when asked why, he gave no reason. at least he admitted that he got the emails, and didn't respond in detail even after being asked repeatedly. thank god it's over.

i can live with the names "snitch" and "rat" if it means doing what's right for the situation. ;)

amen!!!

You mean all of you would rat students out on non graded assignments to the instructor because they in your view did not contribute to the assignment? Come on now, you guys are best to be avoided. Some students don't have the knowledge base in their head or some just don't want to be in a group. I know that in nursing schools, you don't trust anyone and this is just a good example of it. Geez, I better step it up some in my group projects before some of my fellow classmates would rat me out to the instructor! Thanks for the heads up! I better watch my back!

Specializes in LTC/Peds/ICU/PACU/CDI.
i don't think it is right. when you work on projects that are non graded, some students are not going to show up or would care less about the assignment because it carries no weight. and you would rat those people out also to the instructor on a non graded group assignment. i am not a troll but i do not agree with you handling the situation like that. it is best that students avoid you.
this is about group projects & how *some* people won't hold their end-up. whether the project is weighted or not is irrelevant!!! people should (& do get) just what they put into making the project work. this is not about *ratting* people out either...so don't you dare make this thread about you hopefully :angryfire. why should anybody get by on others back just because they don't *like* doing group projects...how dumb is that?

your problem is that you're one of *those* people who get-by on the coat-tail of others' efforts & feel somewhat threaten that this *might* happen to you someday. well grow-up...this is life! if you as an adult student *decide* not to participate in a group project....then don't be surprised when you're exposed for not participating! that's not your peers' problem...it would be *yours* no matter what excuse you produced. how on earth can you pass it off that you've prepared for the project...but didn't? how is that your classmates' responsibility? and...how is that ethical? when the crap finally hit the fan...you bet your bottom dollar i'm going to duck & let it hit those who've left themselves totally exposed.

in marie's case senario...the girl tried to play marie & the other participant as if it was *their* fault for *her* not being able to participate & hold her own weight. that's childish, immature, & unethical behavior! that's like having somebody else write a paper for you & you put your name on it & submit it as your work. that's called cheating! if this individuals' big fat zero cost her to have to repeat this entire course...then sooooo be it! i say it's a expensive lesson learned...*she* made that choice when *she* decided not to take the project & her peers seriously! that's the consequences *she* took! the same goes for the other guy who left them hanging too. he got exactly what he put into the project...zero!

enough said ~ moe

Specializes in LTC/Peds/ICU/PACU/CDI.
you mean all of you would rat students out on non graded assignments to the instructor because they in your view did not contribute to the assignment? come on now, you guys are best to be avoided. some students don't have the knowledge base in their head or some just don't want to be in a group. i know that in nursing schools, you don't trust anyone and this is just a good example of it. geez, i better step it up some in my group projects before some of my fellow classmates would rat me out to the instructor! thanks for the heads up! i better watch my back!

it's not about being in *our* view...it's about the simple fact that....*they did not doooooooo the work!!!!*

if you can't get that then you must be a troll :angryfire!

moe

it's not about being in *our* view...it's about the simple fact that....*they did not doooooooo the work!!!!*

if you can't get that then you must be a troll :angryfire!

moe

most of my group projects, i don't do the work. do i care? no, i do not. i pay attention to the graded stuff. an intelligent person would probably not care less about the group project either because it is not graded. why then rat people out on something that is not going to effect them in anyway? it just does not make any sense.

Specializes in LTC/Peds/ICU/PACU/CDI.
most of my group projects, i don't do the work. do i care? no, i do not. i pay attention to the graded stuff. an intelligent person would probably not care less about the group project either because it is not graded. why then rat people out on something that is not going to effect them in anyway? it just does not make any sense.
why bother to take the course then? why bother to participate in class? why bother asking or answering questions?

people bother because that's what's expected of them. doing "ungraded" group projects is no more than say doing your daily assigments...but it must be done. what if everyone took your attitude & no work got done. hummmm....don't ya think the professor would take notice & then would make future projects "weighted?"

:banghead: again...this thread topic *is* about people not holding their weight in a *graded* group project. they got what they've decided to put into...period! it's not about "ratting" people out...but people taking responsibility for what actions *they* put forth.

cheers,

moe

Specializes in NICU/L&D, Hospice.
In June 2003, I got my AS degree in Pharmacy Technology.

I have an AA degree in Pharmacy Technolgy.

Hi. I have a BA degree in Sociology.

hmmmmm...which is it?

I think classmates should help one another.

Anyway, if you help a person, it makes a person appear better. This is just my opinion.

I believe a good enviroment is being a team player.

I am a nursing student now and I know how productive being a team player is.

Although...

I hate rats.

Anyway, I hate rats.

Nope, she was just a stupid rat.

I found this article in the internet about snitching. I agree with the article 100%

You Snitch, You Disappear

wow! Even searching the internet for it!

stop the snitching

Nothing is worth ratting on someone. Nothing. End of lesson.

Don't rat them out. You think you are going to save the whole friggen world if you rat them out? No, you are not. People cheat all the time in every aspect of life. You are not going to make a difference. Who cares if they cheat.

To me, a snitch, tattle tale is a scumbag.

And for the finale...the true colors shining through...

Sometimes you can sense how a person is by how they act and look at people.

I just started also and I am not doing too well

This may be a little overboard, but I hate to see people arguing with this guy! Just be glad you aren't in school with him!

If I must take a warning for this, I'm ok with that. I just thought some of us would like to see the consistancy of his work.

Woogy

hmmmmm...which is it?

Although...

wow! Even searching the internet for it!

And for the finale...the true colors shining through...

This may be a little overboard, but I hate to see people arguing with this guy! Just be glad you aren't in school with him!

If I must take a warning for this, I'm ok with that. I just thought some of us would like to see the consistancy of his work.

Woogy[/quote

Way to go Woogy! :rotfl:

Specializes in 5 yrs OR, ASU Pre-Op 2 yr. ER.
I dont think it is right. When you work on projects that are non graded, some students are not going to show up or would care less about the assigment because it carries no weight. And you would rat those people out also to the instructor on a non graded group assignment. I am not a TROLL but I do not agree with you handling the situation like that. It is best that students avoid you.

Strange, i would almost say the same thing about someone who's said that don't do any work in a group project proven they don't contribute to a group project, graded or ungraded, unless people like getting stuck with more work.

Most of my group projects, I don't do the work. Do I care? No, I do not. I pay attention to the graded stuff. An intelligent person would probably not care less about the group project either because it is not graded. Why then rat people out on something that is not going to effect them in anyway? It just does not make any sense

Again, you're missing the point. Intelligent or not, has nothing to do with it, it's the principle of the project, which is teamwork.

You're more focused on the "ratting." This isn't high school, this is college, and when people are depending on you to do your part in a group project, don't expect to get a free ride through it. And when the assignment is everyone participates, everyone SHOULD participate. There's nothing that doesn't make no sense about it.

You're trying to rationalize non-participation by calling those that do something about it 'rats', therefore attempting to focus on something other than the actual subject of this thread. So i'm having a sense of deja vu from another thread, after i looked up a few thing, when i'd thought to myself 'hmm i've seen this kind of response before". While i'll continue to read and participate in this thread as long as it's going, i'm no longer going to beat the dead horse with you.

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