Dont you just HATE some of your classmates? - page 4
I know nursing school has cliques and stuff but in my class, I just hate some of these students. I know it is a competitive atmosphere and you dont trust anyone. Some of my classmates are very stuck... Read More
Nov 17, '05Quote from rn in 3 yearsMaybe we should become friends!
My son is a Sophmore and I have never heard about these types of things happening as far as guys go but maybe that is because guys tend to keep these things to them selves and not confide in Mom like my daughter does.
I am a very no-nonsense type of person. If it is like this when I work in a hospital then I will not participate that's for sure.
We'd probably make good friends.
I never really confided to mom about how bad it was for me in school. I think guys too tend to pick on a chosen few who are "different", a nerd or uncool in some fashion and if you have that label you have it for the duration of school. Hopefully, you son is out of the loop, both as a victum or a going along with the bullies and takes after you.
The main point I was trying to say, which I think you understood, that meaness, etc. is not gender specfic, at least not in my life experiences.
Nov 17, '05The Same Behaviors You See Now Will Follow You Into Your Nursing Job. Its One Huge Soap Opera And Alot Of Bad Actors.
Nov 17, '05i had a few people in my class that i wasn't to crazy about in the beginning. so i took each one out to lunch. when i got them out of the classroom and got to talk to them one on one, i was amazed at how wrong i had been! i was even honest with them and told them i had thought this and that and apologized for being wrong. they admitted they could understand why i thought the things i did and gave me amazing insight on where they are coming from.
i honestly like and respect everyone of my classmates. we are so individual and unique. it is sort of like a family. some days we are there for one another and some days we can't wait to just get away from each other.
Oct 2, '06I'm in an accelerated program and the big issue I'm having with some of my classmates is the lack of common sense and the overall stupidity I have to deal with on a daily basis. It's really horrible because we all are in the same class everyday and I have to deal with these people day in and day out for the next year and a half. It concerns me on just how unknowledgeable some of them are. For instance, some of them didn't know that we have to pass the NCLEX to become a RN, matter of fact some of them didn't even know what the NCLEX was. It seems like they just happened to stumble into nursing as a second career as oppose to really researching and deciding on nursing for reason more than just money. It's really bad when people who already have degrees are unmotivated and lazy; it's to the point that one of my professors is teaching the class in slow motion because he knows that many aren't doing the assigned reading and they will be the one raising their hand for him to spell simple words like "primary" or "lesions".
Oct 2, '06I honestly don't see any cliques or backstabbing going on in my class. And why should there be any competition now? We all got into nursing school, and I really want to see all of us finish. Of course, some people will be closer friends than others. We can't all be each other's best friends.
Maybe the attitude of our instructors contributes to this. They've said from the beginning that we are not competing against each other. It really does feel like we are all in this together and we lean on each other.
I think the fact that one of our classmates died in a car accident a few weeks ago helped to unite us. The first time we wore our school uniforms was to attend her funeral.Last edit by missninaRN on Oct 2, '06
Oct 2, '06Wow. What a kick in the stomach your last line was. :Shaking head, throat hurting:
I have the same sentiment about my classmates as you do. I don't see any backstabbing, either...in fact, everyone is truly helpful, a 'we're all in this together' atmosphere. I'm sure it helps that our instructors are great, too, and they have provided a top-down atmosphere that seems professional, friendly, and respectful.
There is not a day I wake up that I am not grateful to be in this nursing program. Your last sentence humbles me even more.
Oct 2, '06I know that in school you are only there to learn and not make friends.
Oct 3, '06I've posted this before and will post it again.
I was a senior nursing student. We were doing our senior case studies. It was against the rules for us to make copies of patient documents, but could hand transcribe the date. Popular clique male nurse goes to make copies - offers to make copies for me - I decline, saying it is not permitted. I tell no one about this. No ONE!
Next week, instructor makes a big to do about hearing that students are making copies of patient data. Popular clique marks me as a "tattletale", though I said nothing to anyone.
Next week, I start my final practicum for graduation, on my preferred unit, Oncology, where the manager knows me and likes me. However, two senior staffers (4 or more years of experience each) target me and treat me like dirt. They try to have me to take the fall for a couple of things, complain loudly if I cannot get the IV started (they failed at starting said IV, but I am surethat it is because I "ruined" the good vein. They made my final weeks of nursing school Hell with a capital "H".
At the very end of the practicum, I find out that I will not get my covetted position on the Oncology unit. I end up on M/S purgatory floor. I also find out that the targetting nurses are best buds with Mister "labels me a tattler".
I work in M/S purgatory for two years,move to another state, become an awesome Oncology certified nurse, become a traveler and work in some of the top facilities in the Country.
Some people are not worth your anger and the energy that you waste on them. Living well and being successful despite what they have done to you is the best revenge.
Oct 4, '06When you think of the big picture in nursing school, you'll find out what you have to do when dealing with these types of difficult situations. Let me explain an approach to these situations, first. Above all, be assertive and practice you're ability to say "no" and not get led into things such as arguments, grudge matches, or staredowns. Second, imagine that your professors are watching your interactions with these people. Doing this, you'll get an idea of what's considered appropriate behavior, because you'll realize when you're not acting politely and appropriately. The trick is to not break your professionalism. Now that you're being assertive and acting professional, forget about how they're making you feel and focus on staying in the moment, and getting your job done. Above all, practice being "fake," as bad as it might sound. If you're phony and polite, you won't get led into bad situations as easily, and you'll be able to more carefully monitor your personal reactions to these types of situations. And last, write down every dirty look, negative comment, and insult you ever get from these people and then present it to the professor if you have to. You can do a lot more harm to someone, if you want to, by not acting out directly against them... but going above them with proof of their behavior. Then, you an cite in the college's policies their breach of the rules and have them punished accordingly. Keep that little tidbit in the back of your mind, and don't let them get you down. If you look at these types of situations psychoanalytically, you'll see that people's motives are usually pretty clear when you look at them closely enough. You'll see that they're trying to disrupt your concentration, interfere with your learning, single you out, drive you away from the group, and make themselves look better. What you have to do is be prepared to deal with this and then take steps to ensure that it doesn't happen. You can also see that people who act like this are usually trying to compensate or get ahead, because they have no consideration for others... a skill nurses really should have. Realize that these people are beneath you and that they're scum... liken them to racists and sexists. Above all, beat them and study harder. If it doesn't kill you it will make you stronger.
Oct 4, '06I would not use the word "HATE", maybe disagreement on some issues with classmates. I actually have no problem with any student in my class. There is one girl who likes to talk everytime the instructor is talking about somethings. I would stop my digital recorder and re-record when she is done. I learned how nurse should collaborate with others, so I do my best to get along with everyone. I would walk in the class and say hello to everyone. I have so much readings to do, often times, I dont even pay attention to whose saying this and that. I have a way to block out what I dont want to hear and I am good at it. I just focus on learning all the important stuff.
Oct 4, '06Quote from DeetoniaThank you! I am in a two year program (second semester) and have the same problem with classmates. Not doing the work, always whining that test questions are unfair because they missed it, changing test schedules to accomidate their lives. How do these people function in the real world, since they are so clueless in the classroom? Not only did these people not know about the NCLEX, but they expected it to be free (no testing fees). They always want to be spoon fed information and can never except that the answers to their questions are not always simple and straight forward. They always ask the same questions over and over (some are from the first semester!).I'm in an accelerated program and the big issue I'm having with some of my classmates is the lack of common sense and the overall stupidity I have to deal with on a daily basis. It's really horrible because we all are in the same class everyday and I have to deal with these people day in and day out for the next year and a half. It concerns me on just how unknowledgeable some of them are. For instance, some of them didn't know that we have to pass the NCLEX to become a RN, matter of fact some of them didn't even know what the NCLEX was. It seems like they just happened to stumble into nursing as a second career as oppose to really researching and deciding on nursing for reason more than just money. It's really bad when people who already have degrees are unmotivated and lazy; it's to the point that one of my professors is teaching the class in slow motion because he knows that many aren't doing the assigned reading and they will be the one raising their hand for him to spell simple words like "primary" or "lesions".
I can sympathise with you and feel your frustration. Just hang on and soon these morons will be long behind you.
Oct 4, '06Quote from smurfyYup until you start your first job and there are different morons just like them! :uhoh21:Just hang on and soon these morons will be long behind you.
Seriously though I am so thankful that nursing school showed me in no uncertain terms just how particular one must be when choosing the team they will work with because sad to say but lazy people are everywhere.