Crying, Cursing in Class and other Drama - page 3
A little bit of drama in my school this week, all test related. During one test, one woman realized her answers were all screwed up with only five minutes to go. Since she didn't have to time to fix... Read More
Mar 10, '04Occupation: RN Joined: Nov '03; Posts: 4,389; Likes: 153Quote from NemracOMG! This has happened before? Wow! My school just redesigned the computer testing lab to prevent cheating. But those problems were nothing compared to this!You know Liz...I can only chalk it up to the stupidity of Criminals....Our Proff said that it has happened to several of the other proffessors here as well...Our new test had the Academic honesty policy attached to it and we all had to sign off on it....the amount of trouble this knucklehead caused....I swear he or she would be lynched by our class if they stepped forward..Very strange situation- I too have never seen anything like that before....
If it's any consolation, I'm told that cheaters usually fail anyway. In our computer testing lab, people were trying to sneak in notes and such. But it didn't help much since the tests were time limited. Since they didn't know the material, most still failed even with their cheater notes. Nevertheless, the school changed the lab layout so they could watch people more closely, and they too are now requiring ID's.
Still, it's so unfair that you and your classmates had to pay the price. I hope the cheater rots in hell !!!!!! :angryfireLast edit by Sheri257 on Mar 10, '04
Mar 10, '04Occupation: RN Joined: Sep '03; Posts: 175; Likes: 2Some drama in my school too. On our second exam several students got grades that the instructors thought were much too high based on those students previous scores. There were many rumors flying around about cheating on the second exam and the dean of students was brought in to give us a lecture about cheating. There has been a rumor flying around that one of the students actually saw another student using a cheat sheet but has refused to turn in the offender to the instructors.
The instructors created an entirely new final for the class and we took that this week. Before taking it they had all of us bring forward all books, jackets, etc. and place them at the front of the room. I think the instructors made this last test much more difficult because of the cheating allegations. I have compared grades with several other students and the highest grade I have heard so far is a 74%. I had scored in the upper 80% and lower 90% range on all previous tests, including the HESI I took the day before the final and only got a 69% on final.
Mar 10, '04Occupation: RN Joined: Nov '03; Posts: 4,389; Likes: 153So sorry this happened to you as well Ruylupez. The school should prevent cheating, but I don't think it's fair to make the exams harder to try to remedy the problem. Don't get me wrong. Tests should be hard. But it sounds like the revised tests are punishing the honest students rather than the dishonest ones.
Mar 11, '04Occupation: pre-nursing student, secretary - non-medical Joined: Jan '01; Posts: 1,761; Likes: 46Most notably this semester during our Drug Calc. exam, which you have to pass to continue on in the program, I was signed up to take it with about 7 other people. (We can sign up at various times to take it during "lab" hours, tests are not given to everyone in one group). Anyway, I got into the room with my test and most of the other students were allready in their taking it. I would say about half of them were swearing out loud and saying it was a joke. A few of them even gave up on the exam and just turned it in without doing it. (We are allowed one retake). The proctor wasn't in the room, just outside of it so they didn't hear any of the commotion.
I had to admit, they were right. Drug Calc. is treated as "self study" and is not covered in lecture. Our instructor told us which chapters to read from our drug calc. book but when we got to the test there were an additional 5 other chapters on the exam that she did not tell us about plus many of the questions were not covered in any of the chapters. Then, they took points off of some of the questions if we did them the way the book instructed us and not the way our instructor wanted them done. But she never showed us "her way" of doing it.
One of my classmates said that when she was taking the exam one of the guys in our class burst out into profanity. The proctor at the time, also a male instructor, would have none of it and removed him from the exam. I don't know if he was allowed to retake it or not.
I didn't think it was right for him to have an outburst like that but I couldn't fault him for saying out loud what we were all feeling.
Mar 11, '04Occupation: Trauma Surgical ICU Joined: Jun '03; Posts: 26Quote from MandyInMSOf courseeeee school is stressful..and everyone handles things differently, so who am I to judge..but, my first thought when I read this was..if they react this way in school how will they act in a trauma or code situation?
yeah, ive often wondered how people like this would act in a trauma situation... but its hard to predict behavior without knowing someone a little better... perhaps college stress gives alot of people a place to learn about dealing with stress.. so they dont react as poorly when they are a nurse? im not quite sure we can judge how they will be as nurses at this point in time, because they are still on the path learning how to be one? just a passing thought. ... oh and horray for me, this is the last week of winter quarter and only one more prerequisite to go!
Mar 12, '04Occupation: ER RN Specialty: ER,ICU,L&D,OR,ETC ; Joined: May '01; Posts: 5,588; Likes: 566I never once found college stressfull
Mar 12, '04Occupation: RN Joined: Nov '03; Posts: 4,389; Likes: 153Yet another girl cried in class yesterday. It must have been personal because our major test in this particular class was postphoned this week. Since I sit next to her, I didn't know what to do. If you stay silent, it might seem you don't care and that you're insensitive. But if you ask what's wrong, they may not want to talk about it and asking might upset them more.
I honestly don't know what to do in situations like that. Thankfully spring break is next week. Maybe everybody will get some much needed rest and chill out.Last edit by Sheri257 on Mar 12, '04
Mar 12, '04Occupation: RN Manager (Retired) Specialty: 10 year(s) of experience in ICU, CM, Geriatrics, Management ; From: US ; Joined: Sep '03; Posts: 3,325; Likes: 722Quote from teeituptomHahahahahahahahaha!I never once found college stressfull
Gotta kick out of this one.
Mar 12, '04Occupation: RN Joined: Nov '03; Posts: 4,389; Likes: 153Quote from teeituptomWhen did you go to college Tom? If it was several years ago, I wonder how the course requirements back then compare with what students have to do now. I'm pretty sure that the course requirements, at least in California, have gotten a lot tougher over the years.I never once found college stressfullLast edit by Sheri257 on Mar 12, '04
Mar 12, '04Occupation: OR Nurse Joined: Feb '04; Posts: 565; Likes: 11Well, all I have to say is that if they ladies are pre-nursing students, once they get into their nursing classes (if they make it) they will definately not be able to flirt their way into the hearts and minds of their nursing instructors. So it will all work out in the wash.
I would also be a little perturbed if I was paying for an education that was impeded by such behavior and if it continued I would explore going up the chain of command to correct it. If they are simply annoying you and not impacting your learning then just sit back and have a good laugh at them.
As far as the comment about never having been stressed in college, I would opine that the poster has either forgotten what it was like, or was being funny, I guess.
Mar 12, '04Occupation: OR Nurse Joined: Feb '04; Posts: 565; Likes: 11Whooops! Sorry, I got this post and another post on flirting students confused - disregard please.
Mar 12, '04Joined: Mar '01; Posts: 1,012; Likes: 36College is really stressful! My daughter goes to College at NYU, Stern School of Business. It is so competitive! This week another NYU student committed suicide, which evidently is happening on campuses all over the country. My husband and I make sure that we call and talk to my daughter frequently and we send care packages and make sure that we get her home for holidays. (We live in California - the girl that committed suicide was a transfer student from California)
These nursing students that are stressing out may not have good support systems. The teachers need to be alert to these types of students and make sure that they have access to counseling services. Also, nursing students need to reach out to one another.
When I was in nursing school I remember crying from time to time, not in class though. I also went to the doctor for stomach pains. I threw-up on a test! Yes, right on the test. I ended up having an Upper GI because the doctor thought I had ulcers. He handed me a prescription for Valium, which I threw in the trash on the way out. I also remember a very kind nursing instructor meeting with me in her office because I seemed very sad after breaking up with my boyfriend. Nursing School was hard. I was up the earliest and home the lastest. Other University students in other majors appeared to have a lot more time to party. I was in a BSN program and we started out with 500 students my freshman year and ended with about 200 graduating.Last edit by fiestynurse on Mar 12, '04
Mar 12, '04Occupation: Trauma Surgical ICU Joined: Jun '03; Posts: 26Quote from lizzYet another girl cried in class yesterday. It must have been personal because our major test in this particular class was postphoned this week. Since I sit next to her, I didn't know what to do. If you stay silent, it might seem you don't care and that you're insensitive. But if you ask what's wrong, they may not want to talk about it and asking might upset them more.
I honestly don't know what to do in situations like that. Thankfully spring break is next week. Maybe everybody will get some much needed rest and chill out.
take care and hang in there!!!Last edit by northwest20 on Oct 6, '04