Bringing your *new* baby to school.... - page 3
Problem here all....recent member of class had a baby. Now, so far our school has been VERY strict about pretty much everything. Now, I understand that this student is a single mother, on assistance... Read More
Oct 20, '05Yes, but in your situation, you were one person. Many of my lectures had 40-60 students in them. What if everyone brought their kids to class every day? It would have been a disaster. I can understand if someone has to bring them in if there's an emergency, but school cannot be a daily alternative to childcare. If it's distracting to the other students, it's not fair. What if some of her classmates are on the cusp of passing or failing? Being distracted unnecessarily during an exam could make or break them. She's not the only student with a lot on the line to graduate. There are many government programs available for inexpensive childcare. Many of them allow the care to be done by private individuals (including family members) as well as day care centers. A lot of people don't want to leave their child with a sitter, but as a single parent, you usually don't have that option.
Bottom line, if it's a one time emergency, fine. Otherwise, it's not fair to other people whose livelihood is also on the line.
Oct 20, '05Quote from RohanWould you still feel this way if that baby was fussy or loud during a test and caused you to get a bad grade because you could not concentrate?I should be surprised at the heartlessness, lack of compassion, lack of caring for a fellow student..but I'm not. Good for you if you have a perfect life, never have something go wrong, etc. I came back to work 3 weeks after I had my second son and the assistant administrator suggested I bring in a playpen and other items so I could have my baby with me when she found out. THAT kind of compassion gave me the strength to keep going at work when I felt like a horrible mother for having to leave him so soon. Instead the company let me work shorter days, have my son brought to work to breast feed and then when no one was here on the weekend I could come in and bring him with me. I realize nursing school is very cut throat and many people are out only for themselves. I for one am going into nursing to HELP people, and that includes my fellow students with children who need to be cut some slack! I wish her the best of luck and I hope she's able to make it through school.
Oct 20, '05Although it may be a distraction, nurses are suppose to care. Reach down into your heart and realize that finishing school may be her only hope to not get on welfare or out on the streets where your tax dollars will go to feed and clothe this child for the next 17 (?) years...and if a repeat probably even more...her children, her children....etc.
I do believe that children shouldn't be brought to class, but things come up that some of us just can't get around. I know my mother had to take me to work with her a couple of times if I was ill. There was no way around it. She was a divorced mom of three. So, somethings just can't be helped if you are going to make something of yourself. (Yes, it does change a life if some rules are bent for situations like this.....just to end the story my mom now has a GREAT job and lives in a 4000 sq ft house.)
Maybe you could express your feelings to your instructor about asking that the baby not be passed around. I know that is probably the most distracting thing.
Is the baby young enough that he/she sleeps most of the time?
Oct 20, '05Quote from rn in 3 yearsOf course not, but that's not the situation. Nor are 20 people all clamoring to bring their children to class. It's ONE person with ONE newborn who, as the OP admitted, was quite quiet (although I agree the passing around is not appropriate and should be addressed).Would you still feel this way if that baby was fussy or loud during a test and caused you to get a bad grade because you could not concentrate?
Oct 20, '05Quote from Fun2CareI don't know I am defending this issue since I did not even bring it up but I am.Although it may be a distraction, nurses are suppose to care. Reach down into your heart and realize that finishing school may be her only hope to not get on welfare or out on the streets where your tax dollars will go to feed and clothe this child for the next 17 (?) years...and if a repeat probably even more...her children, her children....etc.
I disagree that nursing school may be her only hope of staying off of welfare since she is a single mother. There are PLEANTY of women out there that were single mothers with out any college degree that have never taken ONE DIME in taxpayers money, one of them being myself for awhile. There is nothing wrong with getting government assistance if you need it, that's what it is there for. But do not say that if she is not able to bring her child to class she will be a burden to the taxpayers until her child is 17.
Again, I do not see why her classmates have to be distracted because she chose to become a mother. I for one would be very mad if it were my high cost college class this mother and baby were in. Please do not say the people who feel this way have no compassion because we do. If it were acceptable to bring your children to class they would advertise it in the brocure.Last edit by rn in 3 years on Oct 20, '05
Oct 20, '05I feel the same regardless. If you aren't happy with the situation, find out the details and help come up with alternatives. That's the last I'm going to comment on this. :angryfire
Oct 20, '05Quote from rn in 3 yearsI understand that you disagree, and that is your right.There is nothing wrong with getting government assistance if you need it, that's what it is there for.
As for the above quote, I totally agree with you. I never said there was anything wrong with it. However I do believe that many people on welfare, NOT ALL, grow up to have children in the same rut.
I definitely think if you qualify, and you need it, get it.
...and this is just a rant thread, someone is trying to relieve stress. It doesn't need to become a heated debate. People will have different opinions. Not one of the opinions is wrong. They are just that, opinions, and each person has a right to say his or her own opinion without someone else saying what or what not to say.
So, on that note, if this is going to be a gripe session, I'm unsubscribing. (Been there, done that already....ugggh...lol)
Have a good one, and good luck in your classes.
Oct 20, '05Op, no i don't feel you're wrong for feeling this way.
It's not fair for a whole class to accomodate one person.
Oct 20, '05But why should the rest of the class suffer for her lack of planning or what have you. They are paying decent money to get their degree with a bunch of other ADULTS, not distracting children.
And i definately wouldn't do this to my classmates, either.
Oct 20, '05Personally I wouldn't mind at all. In fact making the minor sacrifice of being distracted by an adorable baby occasionally is well worth the satisfaction of knowing that I helped a struggling young mother achieve her goals. Being a married mother with means myself, I don't consider it at all unfair for her to have this right and not I.
Oct 20, '05I am not paying thousands of dollars a semester to have someone bring in a baby and distract the entire class.
While I have compassion for people who have difficulty with their child care situations, it is not appropriate to bring kids to class. Period.
Oct 20, '05I don't understand how a newborn, especially if breastfed, is distracting. My newborns pretty much slept in their sling when I was out and about and as someone else said, when they got fussy I'd pop the breast in their mouth and people rarely new I even had a baby in that sling. Even for 5 hours.
I disagree with the baby being passed around for a variety of reason, I'm kinda old fashioned about things like that, but w/o the passing around it seems to me that its the adults that are the problem. If the baby is being quiet, then how can its presence be distracting? It seems to me that it is the adults that have trouble paying attention.
I hope that if you do have any compassion for this mother that you will first, very kindly and respectfully, address it with her while suggesting the excellent alternative of her being able to take tests in another room.
Oct 20, '05Quote from SeekingNurThe adults should never have to be put in the situation to find out.I disagree with the baby being passed around for a variety of reason, I'm kinda old fashioned about things like that, but w/o the passing around it seems to me that its the adults that are the problem. If the baby is being quiet, then how can its presence be distracting? It seems to me that it is the adults that have trouble paying attention.
This whole class is accomodating one person. Who CHOSE to be in this situation. I seriously doubt the class chose to accomodate her.
And it's very unfair to the class as a whole to allow this to happen.