Nurses General Nursing
Published Apr 26, 2003
cokie
113 Posts
here in CA, there is a push for LVN's to be able to hang i.v. meds. i'm not worried about my job, i'm worried that i will be asked to supervise any number of LVN's while they hang i.v. meds, most without the knowledge base to know proper doses, proper uses (micro),. infiltration, phelbitis, drugs that need to be diluted (K), drugs very hard on the veins....etc. etc. etc.....if hanging i.v. meds is just about programming the pump (as some of my pt. think), then why don't we just let the pt. hang their own. ....am i wrong to want to keep i.v. meds something that just rn's can do. worried about my license hanging on more than one lvn, as they go about doing a highly skilled job. thoughts. p.s. i love the lvn's that i team lead, and i am not a control freak, and i realize that there are highly educated lvn's out there.....i just worry about my license.....
P_RN, ADN, RN
6,011 Posts
Our LPNs (South Carolina)have been giving IV meds for 20+ years. I learned some of my best techniques from LPNs. There certainly should be some intense special training, but I have no problem with their giving any approved meds.
There are certain restrictions. Over 40meq Kcl in less than 1000cc, blood, chemo, amphotericin B, about 15-20 meds as of 2 years ago :)
And here many patients do indeed give their own antibiotics at home.
ktwlpn, LPN
3,844 Posts
Originally posted by cokie here in CA, there is a push for LVN's to be able to hang i.v. meds. i'm not worried about my job, i'm worried that i will be asked to supervise any number of LVN's while they hang i.v. meds, most without the knowledge base to know proper doses, proper uses (micro),. infiltration, phelbitis, drugs that need to be diluted (K), drugs very hard on the veins....etc. etc. etc.....if hanging i.v. meds is just about programming the pump (as some of my pt. think), then why don't we just let the pt. hang their own. ....am i wrong to want to keep i.v. meds something that just rn's can do. worried about my license hanging on more than one lvn, as they go about doing a highly skilled job. thoughts. p.s. i love the lvn's that i team lead, and i am not a control freak, and i realize that there are highly educated lvn's out there.....i just worry about my license.....
NRSKarenRN, BSN, RN
10 Articles; 18,315 Posts
Part of the concern in Calif, is LVN's are now permitted perform IV push med administration according to the following Board of LVN regulations in Dialysis and blood bank settings--including directly into Quinton CVP type catheters---UNDER RN or MD direction or in "close vicinity approximation" which we KNOW will be stretched to the limit.
Check out these links:
"This proposal will add new language in regulation to permit licensed vocational nurses who are Board-certified in intravenous therapy to administer specified intravenous medications in hemodialysis, pheresis and blood bank" settings.http://www.bvnpt.ca.gov/pdf/regchange.pdf
Law approved 1/29/03: http://www.bvnpt.ca.gov/pdf/availsecmodtext.pdf
Comments:
http://www.bvnpt.ca.gov/pdf/fsr12.03.02.pdf
Originally posted by NRSKarenRN Part of the concern in Calif, is LVN's are now permitted perform IV push med administration according to the following Board of LVN regulations in Dialyis and lood bank settings--including directly into Quinton CVP type catheters---UNDER RN or MD direction or in "close vincinty proximation" which we KNOW will be stretched to the limit. >>I know that here in Pa techs are performing those functions under the direction of an RN or physician....non-sensical,isn't it?
Part of the concern in Calif, is LVN's are now permitted perform IV push med administration according to the following Board of LVN regulations in Dialyis and lood bank settings--including directly into Quinton CVP type catheters---UNDER RN or MD direction or in "close vincinty proximation" which we KNOW will be stretched to the limit.
>>I know that here in Pa techs are performing those functions under the direction of an RN or physician....non-sensical,isn't it?
Jay-Jay, RN
633 Posts
This is scary!! In Ontario, RPN's (registered practical nurses) are allowed to give hydration therapy. When I was last in for surgery, the RPN was running the IV at 125 an hour. She did have orders to decrease it to KVO when/if I was drinking and peeing well. I had to BEG her to decrease it as I was going into fluid overload (borderline hypertensive, AND losing control of my overloaded bladder!) I think an RN would have had the judgement skills to have reduced it WITHOUT being asked.
RPN's/LVN's giving IV meds, esp. IV push meds?? Scares the daylights out of me!!