Vent: I absolutely HATE stupidity! Not ignorance.....STUPIDITY!! - page 4
5-month-old baby sent from the clinic 10 miles away for a respiratory workup. Baby arrived in an infant carrier with a heavy furry blanket over him. Remove that blanket and find Baby resting on top... Read More
Jan 7, '07Occupation: ER Nurse - Pedi and Adult Specialty: 6 year(s) of experience in Tele, ICU, ER ; From: US ; Joined: Aug '06; Posts: 502; Likes: 96I live in an area with alot of migrant workers who do lawncare and stuff. I can't tell you how many open-backed panel trucks or pick-ups I see loaded with equipment and loaded on top are 5 or 6 guys lounging across the mower, leaf blower or cuttings from the last job. In heavy, fast moving traffic! Good lord, if the truck stops suddenly or gets nailed by another vehicle, I'm not sure how the cops would match up which body parts go with which person! Do cops pull them over - NEVER. Oh and those open trucks also spew debris into the highway, for others to run over or run through other's windshields causing horrible damage or injury/death to some innocent driving to work. It's illegal but I guess if the cops pulled them all over, that would be ALL they did (and would that be such a bad thing?).
My kids and DH and I are NEVER EVER without our belts in the car and I cringe when I see unhelmeted bikers. If you love your harley, stay alive to drive it!
Jan 7, '07Occupation: RN and blogger extraordinaire Specialty: 20 year(s) of experience in LTC, assisted living, med-surg, psych ; From: OR, US ; Joined: Sep '02; Posts: 26,991; Likes: 44,858My grandfather died many, many years ago, but I still remember his words of advice to my sister the day she got her learner's permit: "Drive like everyone else on the road is nuts."
They have served me well over 30+ years of driving, as I've had only a couple of tickets and never been in an accident.
Jan 7, '07Occupation: RN Specialty: 8 year(s) of experience in IMCU/Telemetry ; Joined: Jun '02; Posts: 393; Likes: 125In Ireland, it is the law to wear seatbelts and motorbike helmets. It is very strongly enforced. When I came to the US I took the habit with me. I now always wear a belt and helmet, even if the law says I don't have to.
Enforce the law strongly enough it becomes habit. When it's habit, it's no longer a problem.
So the answer is get your local politico's to make strong laws and have them enforced.
Jan 7, '07Occupation: L.P.N. in LTC Specialty: med surg,homecare,hospice ; Joined: Aug '00; Posts: 4,682; Likes: 4,827Quote from TazziRNI have not read the entire thread so this may be a redundant post.Sorry if it is but I'd like to point out that this type of stupdity is not unique to "medicaid moms" How many times have you heard about children left in cars "for just a minute" with a tragic outcome? How many times have you heard about small children getting killed by riding mowers? It goes on and on-and the way the parents is treated by the media correlates directly with their class...Upper class white mom can leave her baby in the back of her SUV while she is working all day -essentially roasting the baby- and "it's such a horrible tragedy-a mistake" Let it be a young black mother on food stamps and the media calls for prosecution....And time after time no one is prosecuted-as if the hurt the parents suffer mitigates the fact that a baby was killed....Getting behind the wheel drunk and killing someone and killing a child because you forgot it was in the car in high summer should both be murder,imho...There is no excuse for this....in this county all medicaid moms who get prenatal care go through a program and get free strollers and carseats, and they're taught how to use those carseats.
How many more children have to die before this stops???
Jan 7, '07Occupation: going to school to become a Medical assistant then im going to go on to get my RN Joined: Nov '05; Posts: 453; Likes: 10That's sad. What are people thinking? You're right, that's just plain stupid. I thinks it's a crime here in nystate. the brother could be the safest driver in the world but it is the other people on the road you have to worry about. I think states should do car seat checks to make sure the babies are strapped in the car seat and if the baby isn't then they get a ticket or get arrested and if it is a chronic thing then the child should be taken away for child endangerment.
Jan 7, '07Joined: Jan '04; Posts: 9,601; Likes: 3,188consumer reports has recently come out with a study which claims that a high percentage of car seats are not safe even when installed as directed
this should be followed up per government...horrible if you put your trust into a car seat for your child and child is killed/hurt because seat was substandard
louisiana has recently come out with a helmet law for mortorcycle riders..my son and sil fussed and fumed but i had a hidden smile
my dgs, however, learned to unbuckle his seat and wave at policemen when he was just a toddler...he was very hyper, don't know how he lived to be an adult
Jan 7, '07Joined: Jul '06; Posts: 161; Likes: 29Quote from Jelli_BelliI think that if you post a bond or demonstrate proof of insurance sufficient to make sure taxpayers don't have to foot the bill for care necessary for the unbelted motorists, or the support of his/her family, then you can do what you want in a car or on a motorcycle (helmet laws).I completly agree with the law requiring parents to safely secure their children in a vehicle. Any child under 18 in a car should be required.
I don't, however, agree with adult seat belt laws. I think they are just another case of laws overstepping their bounds. Now mind you, I am fanatical about wearing my seat belt and I won't start the car unless everyone with me is buckled up. That said, I also don't believe that the police or any other goverment body has the right to "make" me. If people choose to endanger their own lives in their own vehicle that is their right, they just don't have the right to endanger their children's.
As far as saving stupid people's lives, I'm all for a little Darwinistic thinning of the gene pool. There are far to many of them running around as it is(j\k).
Or maybe there could be a check off box on your taxes similar to the one for election funding: $1 of my taxes should go to the care of idiots injured by their own stupidity.
Jan 7, '07Joined: Jul '06; Posts: 161; Likes: 29Quote from Angie O'Plasty, RNFlorida is one of them.
I try very hard to stay away from motorcycles, especially if the riders are not wearing helmets. I realize that the riders might have the "right" to splatter their brains all over the pavement, I just would rather they didn't do it in front of my car.
Obviously, it would be a small splatter.
Jan 7, '07Joined: Apr '03; Posts: 7,569; Likes: 2,297Quote from ktwlpnI said "medicaid moms" because in this county they get detailed instructions in car seat safety as part of their prenatal care. I have private insurance and was religious about my prenatal care, yet our instruction was reading the booklet that came with the seat. I am not saying that medicaid moms are bad moms, I just meant that they are given instructions on baby and child safety seats that the rest of us are not, so there is absolutely no excuse for not using the seats properly. Read my original post again, especially the sentence about medicaid moms.I have not read the entire thread so this may be a redundant post.Sorry if it is but I'd like to point out that this type of stupdity is not unique to "medicaid moms"
Jan 7, '07Joined: Sep '05; Posts: 7,767; Likes: 1,230Quote from emsbossI did something like this years ago before I was even in nursing. My roommate and I were stopped in traffic in the middle of summer. Had our windows down and the car next to us had their windows down. I look over and see a toddler bouncing around in the car. We started moving (slowly) and I said "where's you seatbelt?". Dad turned very red in the face and sped up.I was driving an ambulance one day, looked in the car to my left and saw a woman BREASTFEEDING a baby!!!!!!!!!...:trout: At the next redlight I rolled my window down and "complimented" her on the "airbag" she held in her arms. She got angry...I got called into the office
Some folks have no common sense...But then, common sense is not so common anymore.
I can (almost) understand an adult choosing not to wear their seatbelts, but minors don't get that choice. I'm tempted to use my cell phone everytime I see a child unrestrained. No matter how good of a driver you are, there are millions of idiots on the road beside you. In my quaint little hometown, there's signs that say "Please Drive Slowly, We Love Our Children." Well, that's nice - except I routinely get stuck behind a SUV that's going 45 in a 30 and I can obviously see kids switching btw the front and back seat and throwing soccer balls around. Wait, YOU want me to be careful for your children, but you don't want to be careful for the sake of your kids? Doesn't make sense.
I drove with my twin nieces (2yrs) in the back for the first time. I drove barely the speed limit. Every turn and curve I was careful. I had some super precious luggage in the backseat. And yes, I had them seatbelted in properly.
Jan 7, '07Occupation: L.P.N. in LTC Specialty: med surg,homecare,hospice ; Joined: Aug '00; Posts: 4,682; Likes: 4,827Quote from TazziRNI understand the post to be a diatribe against stupid "medicaid moms" in general.I don't see how it can be taken any other way.Read mine again-My point is only that "stupid" cuts through all socio-ecomomic backrounds and as long as the death of a child is considered "acceptable loss" then stupid parents will not be punished and this behavior will continue....Getting 1 to 1 instruction regarding childcare is no guarantee that the knowledge gathered will be retained and applied-obviously...We debated here a few years ago about a case outside of Philadelphia -2 young children were left outside with a running riding mower.....The 7 yr old hopped on and killed his 2 yr old sister.The parents were DEVASTATED--mom was at Kmart and dad LEFT THE 2 KIDS OUT THERE ALONE WITH A RUNNING RIDING MOWER..There was no prosecution.It's murder-pure and simple-and that's my point..That's what it will take for this type of negligent behavior to stop-each and every time a child is killed through the stupiditity of a parent that parent needs to be prosecuted for murder.No matter what color their skin or how much money they make there SHOULD BE NO EXCUSES...I said "medicaid moms" because in this county they get detailed instructions in car seat safety as part of their prenatal care. I have private insurance and was religious about my prenatal care, yet our instruction was reading the booklet that came with the seat. I am not saying that medicaid moms are bad moms, I just meant that they are given instructions on baby and child safety seats that the rest of us are not, so there is absolutely no excuse for not using the seats properly. Read my original post again, especially the sentence about medicaid moms.
Jan 7, '07Occupation: Clinical instructor Specialty: 13 year(s) of experience ; Joined: Dec '01; Posts: 781; Likes: 121Quote from ktwlpnwhite professional citizen...It goes on and on-and the way the parents is treated by the media correlates directly with their class...Upper class white mom can leave her baby in the back of her SUV while she is working all day -essentially roasting the baby- and "it's such a horrible tragedy-a mistake" Let it be a young black mother on food stamps and the media calls for prosecution....And time after time no one is prosecuted-as if the hurt the parents suffer mitigates the fact that a baby was killed....Getting behind the wheel drunk and killing someone and killing a child because you forgot it was in the car in high summer should both be murder,imho...
Neighbors baffled after mom leaves son in hot car
why bring race into this?
this happens every summer in Phoenix...
plenty of BAD press for all...Last edit by hogan4736 on Jan 7, '07
Jan 7, '07Joined: Apr '03; Posts: 7,569; Likes: 2,297Please tell me where and when I said medicaid moms are stupid?