US Congress again to try to ban "Partial BIrth Abortion" - I think this is good! - page 2
The US Congress is again set to produce a bill to ban so called "Partial Birth Abortion," aka intact Dilation & Extraction. It is happily highly likely the President will sign the bill into law,... Read More
Aug 3, '02Occupation: RN Joined: Nov '01; Posts: 1,487; Likes: 70I wonder why some people are afraid to talk about this?
Hmmmm...maybe they dont like the facts interfering with their beliefs on abortion!
Oh, I guess abortion is not a nursing issue?
Gee - thanks for educating us!
Don't worry, though. The rest of us who've been here for a while and don't give a crap about your little crusade will ignore you. Thanks for playing, please try again.
Aug 3, '02Occupation: RN Joined: Feb '01; Posts: 105; Likes: 5Anyway, Yazisizit, I agree with you. I think it is a very good thing to ban partial birth abortion.
Aug 3, '02Joined: May '01; Posts: 1,253; Likes: 15if you don't like the topic of a discussion why not just ignore it. there is no need to be rude. especially cause you think someone is a newbie. c'mon guys. freedom of speech please. peace to all.
Aug 3, '02Occupation: RN Joined: Nov '01; Posts: 1,487; Likes: 70Originally posted by tiger
if you don't like the topic of a discussion why not just ignore it. there is no need to be rude. especially cause you think someone is a newbie. c'mon guys. freedom of speech please. peace to all.
Seems I have a knack for picking out a jerk a mile away.....
Aug 3, '02Joined: Mar '01; Posts: 1,012; Likes: 36Heh! I tolerated your mayonaise conversation, even though mayo makes me want to puke!! LOL
Aug 3, '02Joined: May '01; Posts: 1,253; Likes: 15i saw the post and think it is disgusting. but, if others want to debate or discuss THIS topic shouldn't they be able to? regardless if a jerk posted on that topic. peace!
Aug 3, '02Occupation: RN Joined: Nov '01; Posts: 1,487; Likes: 70but, if others want to debate or discuss THIS topic shouldn't they be able to? regardless if a jerk posted on that topic. peace!
*sigh* Here we go again...................
I'm telling you, NO ONE can debate for long on this bb about such an emotionally and politically charged topic without it totally falling apart and the thread being locked.
Oh, well. Y'all have fun. Don't say I didn't warn you.........
Aug 3, '02Joined: Apr '02; Posts: 38,750; Likes: 16,271so, do you take Grey Poupon or plain mustard on your sandwich? lol......
Aug 3, '02Joined: May '01; Posts: 1,253; Likes: 15i like plain mustard. usually i prefer mustard to mayo. lol:roll good twist of topic once again.
Aug 3, '02Joined: Sep '01; Posts: 16,606; Likes: 680Originally posted by yazisizit
The US Congress is again set to produce a bill to ban so called "Partial Birth Abortion," aka intact Dilation & Extraction.
It is happily highly likely the President will sign the bill into law, and we will rid our nation of this most barbarous procedure.
WHAT I KNOW ABOUT PBA:
There is NEVER a situation where it is medically necessary.
The cervix is dilated over 24 plus hours with laminaria.
The position of the unborn baby is identified, such as with ultrasound.
The abortionist reaches into the uterus and induces a breech, feet first, delivery.
The unborn baby is then delivered, all except the head, which is kept in the birth canal.
Surgical scissors are then jammed into the back of the baby's skull and an opening is enlarged into the cranium.
Rigid suction catheter is then inserted into the cranial vault, and the brains are suctioned out.
The skull is then collapsed.
The now dead baby's delivery is completed by the abortionist.
Immediate complications to the mother can include placental rupture, severe bleeding, uterine puncture, bowel puncture, bladder puncture, pulmonary embolism, live birth and occasionally death.
Delayed complications include pelvic infections, increased future miscarriages due to compromised cervix tone, sterility, breast cancer and Post Abortion Syndrome emotional distresses.
Treatments for serious near term complications can inculde blood transfusions, emergency uterine, bowel and bladder surgery, colostomy, IV antibiotics and further procedures to remove missed POCs.
The further the abortion is done in pregnancy, often the more severe the Post Abortion Syncrome emotional distresses can be. These include suicide, severe depression, sleep disturbances, appetite disturbances, alcohol abuse, drug abuse, difficulty relating to children, difficulty relating to spouse...
The PBA (D & X) abortion of mid and late term pregnancies by the abortion industry is favoured, as it provides the opportunity to harvest for sale developed aborted baby body parts, tissues, organs and cadavers.
The procedure strikes me as, not merely barbaric, but something that a nazi death camp or communist gulag medical research "Doctor" would be proud of.
I think it is high time that this most monsterous procdure is banned from our nation.
What do YOU think?
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Aug 14, '02Occupation: Student LPN Joined: Aug '02; Posts: 18Yes it is quite icky. Hope they get to ban it.
Aug 14, '02Occupation: ADON-LTC Specialty: 19 year(s) of experience in LTC, ER, ICU, ; Joined: Feb '01; Posts: 5,856; Likes: 36originally posted by hoopieboopie
i wonder why some people are afraid to talk about this?
hmmmm...maybe they dont like the facts interfering with their beliefs on abortion!
oh, i guess abortion is not a nursing issue?
gee - thanks for educating us!
Aug 14, '02Occupation: Nurse Educator Specialty: 16 year(s) of experience in Gerontological, cardiac, med-surg, peds ; From: US ; Joined: Mar '01; Posts: 12,037; Likes: 6,467I agree 100% from the heart. This barbaric practice needs to be stopped. (Would have been if our illustrious ex-president Clinton hadn't vetoed it TWO times.) Another example of the slippery slope and the loss of conscience. Such a procedure would have horrified even the most ardent abortion advocates just a generation ago.