too much overtime!! - page 2
I am a new grad nurse. I got my license in Oct 2006. I work in a small rural hospital. My hospital is suffering some financial difficulties lately. We have been short staffed recently with no new... Read More
Mar 1, '07Quote from nserviceA number of ppl have now said that they have "done it themselves", and then criticise the new grad. People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones, and it's good to see some other ppl are honest here.I think it's very hard to make a judgement that someone, new nurse or not, is 'unprofessional' when you say you have done it yourself. Who hasn't talked to their colleagues when they are unhappy? It can actually help you to clarify your thoughts when you discuss them with someone else.
I don't think it's a hard judgment to make. I've done it myself and realized that it is unprofessional. I also realized that it didn't achieve the objective I had of not working when I don't want to work. I don't do it anymore. It's as simple as that.
Also, why aren't ppl dealing with the issue of the senior staff member being unprofessional, by listening to another's conversation? How would that be looked upon if a non senior had done exactly the same thing, and then interrupted the conversation?
Mar 1, '07But was the senior staff member actually eavesdropping? May have been walking down the hall and heard the OP talking...I'm sure we've all walked up behind someone at one point or another and caught wind of something that wasn't meant for our ears.
Mar 1, '07A number of ppl have now said that they have "done it themselves", and then criticise the new grad. People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones, and it's good to see some other ppl are honest here.
I'm not criticising the new grad. I was pointing out that when I was a new nurse, eager to please, with the "If I don't do it the patients won't get taken care of." and nursing management that took advantage of me. Yes, I have been there and done that....then got smart...by some older nurses taking me aside and letting me know what was going on. BTW that unit is still running without me 20 years later. LOLOL
Mar 1, '07Quote from neneRNIt "wasn't meant for our ears"? My point exactly...But was the senior staff member actually eavesdropping? May have been walking down the hall and heard the OP talking...I'm sure we've all walked up behind someone at one point or another and caught wind of something that wasn't meant for our ears.
Mar 1, '07Just an observation... Recently, everyone where I work has put in alot of overtime. Something I've noticed myself is that when I'm really tired, I don't handle situations as well as I would ordinarily. At least where I work, our supervisors are as tired as we are and I've noticed they don't handle things as they would ordinarily either. So, at times it becomes a vicious circle. We're all only human.
Mar 2, '07A number of ppl have now said that they have "done it themselves", and then criticise the new grad. People in glass houses shouldn't throw stonesNot throwing stones here, just sharing my opinion and experience as requested by the OP.
Tiwi, we don't agree on what's professional conduct. That's OK. You also seem to think I was criticising the OP, and that was not my intent. Can we agree to disagree? If not, I'll agree with you, and we can just drop this whole topic.
Mar 2, '07LOL, to quote, you go inside the blue box within the original post and push the darker blue button that sez "Quote" on it. It also has a picture of a piece of paper and pencil, also located on the blue button. Just look in the bottom right-hand corner of the original post, and you will see it. Hope this helps!
And to everyone, PEACE! We are all in this together!
Mar 2, '07Quote from nj1grlcrusLOL, to quote, you go inside the blue box within the original post and push the darker blue button that sez "Quote" on it. It also has a picture of a piece of paper and pencil, also located on the blue button. Just look in the bottom right-hand corner of the original post, and you will see it. Hope this helps!
And to everyone, PEACE! We are all in this together!
Mar 2, '07Quote from TiwiYep, agree to disagree. Sounds good...
Are those beer mugs? It is Friday ya know!!!!
Mar 2, '07I originally said yes but when I left boss heard me grumbling to the tech & it went something like this.
Say what you mean; mean what you say.
If you said yes to the hours, then work them without complaining about the OT. Remember, you agreed. Now, if you want to complain about the lack of staff, I guess that's O.K. to a point. If you don't want the hours or are too tired or have other commitments than stand up for yourself. You've already proven that you're a team player, but only you know what your limits are O.K., so you're a new nurse; don't let that be the reason you forgot that you're are part of a team. Doesn't matter if you're a super duper star quarterback, if there's nobody else on the field you won't make any headway. Nobody said you had to take this all on by yourself.
boss: you know you didn't have to say yes if you didn't want to do it.
Sounds like your boss was trying to give you an out.
me: I don't want to be the bad guy & leave you guys hanging
(see above comments)
boss: I could have asked jon (lpn that worked with me last night & tonight)
me: well I don't want to put it on him then he'll only get 6 hrs sleep.
I see, so Jon needs more that 6 hrs, but you don't? How do you know how much sleep he needs? let jon take care of jon, and you take care of yourself.
(Oh, by the way, nice process recording!)
Sorry if this is disorganized I'm just tired.
Again, if you're tired enough to have problems putting together a post for this bulletin board, but you would have been perrrfectly fine to do assessments, hand out meds, perform treatments, etc without worrying about a mistake? You feel guilty about not taking the OT -how would you have felt if were so tired that you had a med error? Made a pt worse (or even responsible for their death -say by overdose)? It's about balance and (again) knowing yourself and your limits: physical, mental, emotional.
p.s. other RN's in the hospital make a bonus if they come in on their day off but our unit (psych) doesn't offer the bonus due to budget. but EVERYONE else gets it. This hasn't bothered me before but I keep thinking about it...
Sounds like if you're thinking about it that it does bother you.
Quote from TiwiWhat for, for doing her job and simply asking? It's not like she was twisting her arm.You have obviously demonstrated already your commitment to your job. If it is starting to affect your health, then you have to think about number one first and have a rest for a little while from the extra work, and begin working out of hours when you are refreshed and happy to do so.
Why was your boss "listening around corners" to a private conversation?
Sounds like the boss overheard, and not eavesdropping. Maybe the OP was upset and gesturing or overheard the tone of voice. You can't blame the manager if the OP was not in a private setting. Also, it sounds like she was approached after the conversation was over. Perhaps the OP could clarify?
You are allowed to have your own personal gripes,
Absolutely, just do it in private, please.
and it's none of her business to interrupt and comment.
If she overheard the OP complaining and it involves a work related matter, yes it is her business.
If you weren't rude to her, then there is no need to apologize.
Disagree. OP was wishy-washy, don't say what you don't mean.
If anything she should be apologizing to you.