Thoughts about childcare during procedures - page 2
I have been thinking of this for a long time now. Some of you may actually have some sort of system set up in your hospitals since you are in bigger cities, etc. What would you think of this idea... Read More
May 23, '04Occupation: Haemetology nurse Specialty: Oncology/Haemetology/HIV ; From: US ; Joined: May '02; Posts: 7,040; Likes: 7,483Quote from CNM2BBeing realistic is rude?Whew! I didn't expect rude responses. I was just inquiring. Forget I said anything for goodness sake!
May 23, '04Joined: Mar '04; Posts: 5,926; Likes: 15Deb, for what it's worth I wasn't talking about you at all. I was simply inquiring into what you all thought. I didn't think it warranted the sarcastic responses it got.
May 23, '04Joined: Mar '04; Posts: 5,926; Likes: 15Quote from jembBelieve me, If I could I would. I really do not know anyone other than my upstairs neighbor who is never home and only has family babysit for her. My only family works regular 9-5 hours, etc. I was wondering at the logistics of this and if there were any places that might do some sort of utilization of it. My local hospital has bored volunteers that seem to have nothing to do. Picture three elderly women sitting at the desk twiddling their thumbs most of the day. Even if one of these volunteers could go with the patient during their test (how long does it take to draw blood anyways?) just to keep an eye on the little ones so they aren't grabbing anything they shouldn't be. I was also asking more as a convenience for the person doing the test, not for the mother. I can handle taking them, but I always worry that they are in the way.If I were a parent with little ones, I think I would try to arrange a co-op with other parents from my neighborhood, religious organization, or group of
friends, to help each other with childcare needs for these situations. Seems like it would be better than trusting their care to strangers anyway.
May 23, '04Occupation: former NICU nurse, now a medical/health journalist Joined: Feb '03; Posts: 1,099; Likes: 5Quote from CNM2BBut there's still the issue of liability, regardless of how bored the volunteer is, or how willing they are to watch your child. If the child slips and falls (which can happen within seconds), and injures herself, who is responsible? The volunteer? The hospital? In this day and age of lawsuits (and I'm not saying you would sue) believe me, there are moms who would be on the phone to a lawyer within five minutes. And demanding the hospital eat the cost of medical care for the child.Even if one of these volunteers could go with the patient during their test (how long does it take to draw blood anyways?) just to keep an eye on the little ones so they aren't grabbing anything they shouldn't be. I was also asking more as a convenience for the person doing the test, not for the mother. I can handle taking them, but I always worry that they are in the way.
These are real issues, and I can well understand why a facility does not offer babysitting--unless it is by qualified, bonded personnel who offer an independent childcare service on the premises.
May 23, '04Joined: Mar '04; Posts: 5,926; Likes: 15I completely see where you are coming from, but I hope that as a nurse everyone is able to see that there aren't always options available to everyone (such as me). I hate to inconvenience people and that's why this question came up.
May 23, '04Joined: Jan '04; Posts: 19; Likes: 20CNM2B
I know what you mean! I also have two children and frequently have no one to sit with them. If one goes-they both go. I realize this is not ideal-but much of a single mothers (or mother with a busy or uninvolved father) is not ideal.
I can only pay a babysitter for hours I am drawing a paycheck (and even then it is very difficult). The other posters 'realistic disagreement' made sense, but the sarcasm was not necessary.
May 23, '04Joined: Mar '04; Posts: 5,926; Likes: 15Poppy...LOL..this is why we really do not go anywhere. I can't take three kids most places and they are all under five. I was hoping to find a reliable sitter, but no one wants to do it anymore unless you pay them a fortune! I tend to do my errands when dh is home to watch the kids, or I'll take one of them with me just to spend special mommy time with them. It's hard.
May 23, '04Joined: Jan '04; Posts: 19; Likes: 20CNM2B,
I read your post and all I can picture is the movie Parenthood where the actress (short hair-remembered her name 30 seconds ago) was explaining her vibrator to her teenage daughter by jumping up and down in her business suit and heels yelling "...I stayed to raise two children and I have no life".
It isn't just single mothers either. I can honestly say that when my husband was still at home it was not much different. I am lucky in that I have taken my children MANY PLACES-MANY TIMES and everyone has been very kind about it so far.
May 23, '04Joined: Apr '02; Posts: 38,756; Likes: 16,286You know, the years pass quickly, CNM, and you will soon enough have 3 teens on your hands who can care for themselves while you have medical appts, etc. THEN you will REALLY have full hands. (rofl)
As a military wife, I can relate to your difficult situation. My husband is out of town at times, and sometimes for a long time. (wartime sigh). Heck, I have curtailed so much through the years due to daycare issues, including sidelining my entire career for them. Social life? What is that? My family all live more than 2000 miles from me, so no help there, either. And friends come and go in military life so that can be tough, too.
But hey, having to make sacrifices and cope, well, that is what parents do. It's not easy and there are not easy answers. But don't expect the hospitals to be able to help you. You will have to find friends to do that..........or family---(if you are lucky), or pay a daycare provider who does "drop ins"----coping like the rest of us have had to do. Childcare is a HUGE issue, to be sure. I have felt the pain for 12 years now. It won't be easier once you go to work as a nurse, unfortunately, but at least your kids will be a bit older.
Have a good day, and no hard feelings, ok? Hugs.
May 23, '04Occupation: Haemetology nurse Specialty: Oncology/Haemetology/HIV ; From: US ; Joined: May '02; Posts: 7,040; Likes: 7,483Quote from Poppy_PetalI can only pay a babysitter for hours I am drawing a paycheck (and even then it is very difficult). The other posters 'realistic disagreement' made sense, but the sarcasm was not necessary.
I am still having a problem seeing the sarcasm....
I am a single traveling nurse. Two weeks into an assignment, I was found to have a lung mass that required "immediate bronchoscopy" per the pulmonary attending at Cornell University. Problem is despite the immediacy needed, the hospital refused to do the procedure until there was a responsible adult present to sign for taking me home. I was at least 985miles from anyone of reseanable aquantance.
No matter, well behaved your children are, they generally won't be in the hospital, for even a short time. And I repeat that have had plenty of parents try to drop children with volunteers to find that they refuse to take care of them. And I have dealt with more than a few volunteers that voice exasperation with someone's "little darlings" running rampant on the floor.
If you truly think that this is a wonderful idea be proactive. Put an ad in the paper offering your services to care for somene else's (a stranger's) kids at the drop of a hat for free, in exchange for them doing the same for you. You can create a whole network of people to do this and manage it. And then you will have plenty of volunteer childcare. Advertise for bored seniors that are twiddling their thumbs (in the words of another poster - as I have never seen people that bored) , to come do this for you and for the community's good. It would be an awesome service. And ya'll refuse to hold anyone liable.
And if you are student, why not ask a fellow student. If you are working, ask a coworker. That is how it has been done for ages and can still be done now.
May 24, '04Joined: Apr '02; Posts: 38,756; Likes: 16,286where is the sarcasm? just wondering..............
if I ever come across as sarcastic, I apologize here and now. But Frankly all I see here is honest feedback, which WAS solicited.
May 24, '04Joined: May '04; Posts: 1,008; Likes: 12I understand completely Kim. I have 3 kids too and dh works some odd hours sometimes so there are times when I have to take them all with me. I was just wondering though a lot of Gyms have childcare onsite to where you can pay like a couple of bucks ( I don't know how much it is) but anyway a small fee to leave your kids with someone qualified to watch them while you workout. Why couldn't that work in other areas such as large hospitals?? Also community colleges have early childhood development programs, as part of the students training they could rotate at so called clinicals such as nurses do in their training by volunteering at hospital daycares. Maybe that's way too easy but it's just a thought that I had. I know there are liability issues so please don't anyone get mad. I know the idea is a stretch but a girl can dream , right? lol
May 24, '04Occupation: Haemetology nurse Specialty: Oncology/Haemetology/HIV ; From: US ; Joined: May '02; Posts: 7,040; Likes: 7,483Quote from CNM2BWhy don't you ask those bored elderly women about sitting for you?My local hospital has bored volunteers that seem to have nothing to do. Picture three elderly women sitting at the desk twiddling their thumbs most of the day. Even if one of these volunteers could go with the patient during their test (how long does it take to draw blood anyways?) just to keep an eye on the little ones so they aren't grabbing anything they shouldn't be.
I can imagine that these "elderly" women were raised at a time when hands got smacked that were "grabbing what they shouldn't" and that any child over the age of 3 that couldn't stay still long enough for Mommy to get a blood draw done (after all how long does it take???) would probably get a swat or two on the fanny. I know that my niece was taught to behave, during my chemo. And me/my sister knew that there would be heck to pay if we misbehaved in place as dangerous as a hospital.
If you think we are sarcastic, wait till one of those "volunteers" tell you what they think of children that cannot/will not behave in the hospital (I've heard them, believe me). It's not pretty and can get downright insulting.
If you think that it is that important (since "we are all nurses and know the need'), YOU START an agency to do that. There is no reason that you can't. After all, you know of this great problem, who better to deal with fixing it?