The fingernail police!! - page 7
I knew it was coming,but...the hospitals around here are "outlawing" fake nails and/or overlays. I can see their issue with bacteria, etc..under the nails.. but it bothers me that they are dictating... Read More
Jul 19, '04Occupation: icu rn, paramedic Joined: Jan '03; Posts: 8i have short acrylic nails..and i can tell you i wash my hands all the time to prevent infection. fyi- i also have a few tattoos that are seen, 3 earrings in a ear and 4 in the other, and i wear my pentacle ALL the time....so when some a__ tells me some item on me has to go..(i'm like hoolahan) i'll be more than glad to say..all of me is going!!!!
...now let's see them find someone to work all those extra nites........hehehehe
Jul 19, '04Occupation: RN Specialty: 15 year(s) of experience ; Joined: Oct '02; Posts: 4,763; Likes: 843Quote from BHolliRNMSLong nails also subject patients to skin tears and scratches when performing procedures. Outlawed where I work. Do what you please on your days off, but when you come to work, have clean short nails, minimum jewelry...oh, and lay off the brow rings, nose rings, lip rings, tongue rings, etc. And pull your hair up! lol
The messy and/or long hair thing bugs me a lot, too.
I have VERY long hair, down to my behind. However, it is up in a neat bun when I'm at work.
Jul 19, '04Occupation: RN Specialty: 15 year(s) of experience ; Joined: Oct '02; Posts: 4,763; Likes: 843I wonder if some who defend fake nail on nurses turn around and condemn other nurses for smoking?
Jul 19, '04Occupation: Clinical Director, HFAM Joined: Aug '03; Posts: 3Quote from rn-medicYou make my point. You care more for yourself than your patients. I have no problems with anything else you chose to wear. But to callously disregard those you care for in a hospital or nursing home is just downright unprofessional. Nursing can do without you. There are others to work those shifts. Attitude means alot and your actions speak loads about your attitude.i have short acrylic nails..and i can tell you i wash my hands all the time to prevent infection. fyi- i also have a few tattoos that are seen, 3 earrings in a ear and 4 in the other, and i wear my pentacle ALL the time....so when some a__ tells me some item on me has to go..(i'm like hoolahan) i'll be more than glad to say..all of me is going!!!!
...now let's see them find someone to work all those extra nites........hehehehe
Jul 19, '04Occupation: RN Specialty: Hey I'm now an RN!! ; Joined: May '04; Posts: 562; Likes: 1It is proven. It's fact. It's not an urban lgend...certain ingredients that make up artificial nails promote bacterial growth period. If I can find the links I will post it. I believe they already have been posted though. Wash as much as you like, it doesn't matter. And the small tears in the nails...guess what, they are warm dark incubators for bacteria. You can't get a good wash under there. People/newborns have been proven to have died from nurses wearing fake nails. What more needs to be done??? If you have a job without patient contact, go for it. If not please don't be irresponsible. This was such a big issue where I used to work, ID came in with studies, videos and hard facts, then some started to feel bad about being so hardcore about keeping their nails. Simply put if you were still wearing nails and you had not taken them off you were let go after 3 warnings. I don't understand why it is such an issue. Where I work now nails are prevelent...and I am disgusted whenever I see them. Believe it or not that is the FIRST thing I notice about a nurse now...is whether or not they are wearing any type of artificial nails.Quote from GNikYou make my point. You care more for yourself than your patients. I have no problems with anything else you chose to wear. But to callously disregard those you care for in a hospital or nursing home is just downright unprofessional. Nursing can do without you. There are others to work those shifts. Attitude means alot and your actions speak loads about your attitude.
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Jul 19, '04Occupation: temp.disabled LPN due 2 MVA Joined: Feb '04; Posts: 29I agree that , of course the nails harbor bacteria, and its the front line when your caring for people.....its totally different than an earing, you dont lay an ear on someone's shoulder in passing to give a fleeting reassuring touch. But, some bleach and a tooth brush several times a shift should fix that! thats what I do.......or you can use H2 O2 also. I dont think it should be against rules, but "clean" should apply.
Quote from ERslaveI knew it was coming,but...the hospitals around here
are "outlawing" fake nails and/or overlays. I can see their issue with bacteria, etc..under the nails..
but it bothers me that they are dictating what I can or cant have on my own body. For instance, if nails are dirty - what about jewelry, earrings, etc.,where do you draw the line? Does it not make sense that anyone who goes to the trouble of having nice nails would also take the time to wash under those nails. Im not talking about 6" long tiger nails - but any length, nomatter how short,isnt allowed. I am a nail biter - if I dont have overlays, I will be biting my nails all day - how sanitary is that? I was just wondering if this was a local thing or country wide.
Jul 19, '04Occupation: LDRP Nurse Joined: Jun '04; Posts: 109; Likes: 8The nurses with fake nails aren't reading the links those of you have posted about the harmful bacteria they harbor because they are too busy clicking on the acrylic nail links at the bottom of this page!
Fake nails=bacteria=patient infection=careless nurse, now how hard is that?
Jul 19, '04Occupation: RN Specialty: 34 year(s) of experience in L & D; Postpartum ; From: US ; Joined: Nov '99; Posts: 9,721; Likes: 11,860"I wonder if some who defend fake nail on nurses turn around and condemn other nurses for smoking?"
Actually, I was wondering if those who are castigating acrylic nail wearers smoke around their kids, or give up smoke breaks while at work. Oh, never mind, when the smokers take breaks, we can smell it when they return.
FYI, I had mine soaked off on Friday, had a good manicure and light polish applied. Within 24 hours, I have chipped polish to repair. NEVER had chipped polish to repair on the short, thin, can't-tell-they-re-"fake" acrylics. I plan to keep a chronicle of how my nails fare with this: won't bore you with it, but I know from about 45 years of experience with my nails prior to having my acrylics put on what to expect, and it ain't pretty, OR healthy.
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Jul 19, '04Occupation: Operating Room Nurse Specialty: 5 yrs OR, ASU Pre-Op 2 yr. ER ; From: US ; Joined: Jun '03; Posts: 17,036; Likes: 1,006Washing hands all that time isn't going to keep fake nails any cleaner.
fake nails+ microscopic 'lifting'=perfect place for water and bacteria to pool and grow.
Just because you don't see the acrylic lifting off of the nail does not mean that is hasn't!
Jul 19, '04Joined: Apr '00; Posts: 24,611; Likes: 35,448furthermore, i wash my hands around 20x/day....after every contact i have with pts., equipment...
so those of you with overlays; do you scrub those 'nails' meticulously every single time, as it sounds time-consuming. often i use the hand cleaners, which wouldn't clean those nails.
Jul 19, '04Joined: Mar '04; Posts: 5,926; Likes: 15When I had the infection or whatever it was that I referred to in an earlier post (that we cannot find any reason for other than the acrylic nails) do you think I didn't wash constantly trying to get rid of the itching?
Jul 19, '04Occupation: telemetry nurse Joined: Jul '03; Posts: 110; Likes: 2[/img][/size][size=7][img] i also wore acrylics for years, wanted pretty nails, mine have always been weak and easily broken. but, when i got a fungal infection under one nail, and the nail tech wanted to put on a new fake nail and cover it with acrylic, i was grossed out. this was before nursing school. i took off all the "fakeness", started putting cream on my nails daily, and buffing them while i watch tv at night, and i have felt so liberated from the cost and fakeness of it all. i am so proud of my clean nails, i would never resort to being fake again.