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Re: What age were you when you went to nursing school?

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(I'll try this post again.) I am so apprehensive about nursing school! I am 51 and will graduate with a BSN in 2009 (starting in January, like you). We are expected to disrobe for male & female classmates to practice exams. Does your program do this?? I guess we'll see it all anyway, but doing this at my age is enough of a challenge...

Sounds stressful I'm 50 and have been in construction so I am in great shape. None-the-less I would be uncomfortable disrobing in front of the people I share so many other things with. Your school should think about hiring an artists model or get a volunteer an pay them with a professional massage or something. It seems as perhaps they are trying to get you to understand the being a patientaspect of our field. Their exercise,however, does not duplicate the true environmnet. There is no anonimity in this surender of trust. Sounds like your school or your instructor is out of touch.

This sounds like a good separate thread!

Oh, by the way I am 50 and just started LPN gragiate in a year.

I dont think you should be allowed to pass the nursing program without having these done to you.

I am really suprised that in some of your programs you didnt have to do this.

Ok like this my four year old needed a immunization but i dont remember atm. The nurse asked do you want me to give it to her in her arm or in her leg i said in the arm because the leg is insainly painful. and she replied wow i didnt know that.(what is she doing being a nurse giving injections)

Most nurses dont know that if you stimulate the injection site it reduces the pain level to a point where it dont really hurt at all. This is what gives people fears crappy nurses who never had to endure what they put their patients through.

If you feel uncomfortable getting in your underwear infront of future nurses you have no place expecting patients to do the same.

edit: the badword filter edits non bad words so had to change.

I think you're forgetting one of the pt's rights: the right to refuse tx. As a student you don't have that pt right because you aren't a pt.

And if I wanted to expose what God gave me I'd go work at a strip club. Better pay and hours.

And for the record, I've had 8 colonoscopies, a breast surgery and a lap chole. And I have had numerous rectal exams and every year I go to the gynecologist. As a pt, I'm not uncomfortable because I know that the dr's and nurses caring for me don't have to see me everyday and I PICK my dr's so I also know that they are trust worthy and are not going to be going behind my back saying "she's really got a pair!". I've also been in the hospital numerous times for Crohn's exac and I never recall the nurse asking me to disrobe down to my undergarments so she could do an assessment.

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Specializes in Critical Care, Pediatrics, Geriatrics.
As a pt, I'm not uncomfortable because I know that the dr's and nurses caring for me don't have to see me everyday and I PICK my dr's so I also know that they are trust worthy..... I've also been in the hospital numerous times for Crohn's exac and I never recall the nurse asking me to disrobe down to my undergarments so she could do an assessment.

Thank you!

As a patient in the healthcare system you have rights, including the right to refuse. As a student in these programs, refusal may equal failure. That is what is so unfair about this practice.

You made another very good point. A good assessment can be done without the patient having to disrobe.

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wow! that is all that comes to mind at first. patient modesty comes to mind at first. if you are simulating a patient, one would surely not parade them around in front of the wing, ward, floor etc...

dummies work fine in class and one can get hands on experience at clinical. it is totally different with peers. i work in surgery and see many of patient privates with my coworkers. i would however feel uncomfortable allowing them to do a practice exam on me or me doing one on them.

are the administrators (deans) aware that the program demands the class to disrobe in front of each other? i would think most facilities would enforce the opposite.

anyone who thinks this is an acceptable way of learning should also agree that there should not be a separation of male and female students. when you are at the hospital, there are not male nurses for male patients and female nurses for female patients. thus to simulate a real patient and feelings, you can not differentiate.

the last paragraph was intended to strike a nerve. it shows how ridiculous it is. as i said before, clinical is for the hands on.

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Specializes in Critical Care, Pediatrics, Geriatrics.
I dont think you should be allowed to pass the nursing program without having these done to you.

I am really suprised that in some of your programs you didnt have to do this.

Ok like this my four year old needed a immunization but i dont remember atm. The nurse asked do you want me to give it to her in her arm or in her leg i said in the arm because the leg is insainly painful. and she replied wow i didnt know that.(what is she doing being a nurse giving injections)

Most nurses dont know that if you stimulate the injection site it reduces the pain level to a point where it dont really hurt at all. This is what gives people fears crappy nurses who never had to endure what they put their patients through.

If you feel uncomfortable getting in your underwear infront of future nurses you have no place expecting patients to do the same.

edit: the badword filter edits non bad words so had to change.

I disagree with you completely.

You assume that unless one is subjected to these procedures during NURSING SCHOOL, then they are unable to understand the patient's point of view. Let me assure you, that before nursing school I was the patient several times. Each year I subject myself to a yearly gyno exam...I know what it's like to be the patient, stripped bare except for a tiny paper drape, legs sprawled....you get the picture. I don't need to have a classmate, in FIRST semester, who has a 50% or greater chance of not even making it through the program...see me naked to drill into my head why I should maintain patient dignity.

Likewise, I don't have to be run over by a mac truck to understand my trauma pt's needs, to have heart surgery to understand what my CABG pt's go through, to have an addiction to provide adequate treatment to a drug dependent patient....Nursing school teaches you fundamentals and concepts that must be understood and applied. First hand experience in each concept is NOT required to be a good nurse. Otherwise, none of us would meet the requirements, in one way or another.

And one last tidbit for you to ponder...I have had numerous shots in my 24 years between typical childhood immunizations, army immunizations, pre-deployment immunizations, and nursing school immunizations.....getting a shot in my deltoid hurts ME far more than getting one in my vastus lateralis or even my dorso glutteal...but that is just me, and I understand that CONCEPT. Each patient is different, has different perceptions of pain, had different coping skills, etc.

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i have a friend who has become my doctor. I feel a little resistant sometimes but I know his integrity. At a Christmas party he brought up the fact that I was coming due for my prostrate exam. (this was a mixed party but they were all friends) I did not feel the least bit awkward openly discussing it. I let everyone there know that he give the most thorogh exams I have ever had (keep in mind most of the people there were in the medical field). My doctor said that most guys are [explitif deleted] when it comes to exams, compared to women who undergo pevics quite bravely. I know I will get better treatment from him than anywhere else. And I resect him.

However unawkward all this is to me and my circle of friends, it does not qualify student to student examinations as ok emotionally. I could do it just fine but i don't like others being puton the spot by it.

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Specializes in ER/ ICU.

They made us do volunteer work. Now, don't get me wrong, volunteer work is awesome, but when you work FT and have a child to support, I did not have time for it.

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Volunteer work is required where I work. You can not get fired for not volunteering but it does affect your pay raises. So, I can see where that might fit in. I don't agree with it, I just can see where it could fit into employment.

One more thing...how is it volunteer when you are mandated to do it? :rotfl:

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They made us do volunteer work. Now, don't get me wrong, volunteer work is awesome, but when you work FT and have a child to support, I did not have time for it.

Finally some new subject matter! But nursing is about community, maybe you couldmget a volunteer to help w/ur child while you do the awsome thing.

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yeah, we have to strip down also. I know alot of people are uncomfortable, but i've learned that im comfortable with my body so i really don't care. But, we use models for the breasts and private areas. But, i just thought all schools did this, but now im seeing thats not the case. I guess my school just cheap

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