So I'm fired. Again. - page 5
I must be the worst nurse in the world. Now I need to figure out my next step. And it isn't nursing. No specific reason. They think I "could" be unsafe. Pffft.... Read More
Oct 19, '07Occupation: Travel nurse Specialty: 17 year(s) of experience in ICU, ER, EP, ; From: US ; Joined: Aug '07; Posts: 1,385; Likes: 3,029Quote from totoothe reason why i quoted you, was that you voiced the ipitomy of why we fail as a profession, even though i spelled it wrongall these posts anger me, because it's not like this where i work, yes we have issues, many of them, but we don't attack each other, we protect, nurture, help, assist and grow each other.i am a new nurse. i have 18 months long term and sub-acute experience. i have found resigning is almost impossible. when you try they say you're fired. 4 jobs in 18 months, and i am about to start again. i may not have been the best nurse at first, but as a rn student, we were trained as hospital nurses, but i could not get a job in a hospital, primarily, i think because i am over fifty. i am now an excellent nurse, even my don who i stayed with for 10 months said i was an excellent nurse. but after working 2 shifts, and as supervisor i did not write my assesment on a patient i sent to the hospital. i went back in and the administer wanted to suspend me (oh, and my husband was getting his first dose of chemo for lung cancer that morning). my don was upset that i would not take a suspension. i have found that lpn's are very jealous of rn, but hey, they could get their rn's if money is an issue to them, but instead the lie and backstab. my life was even threatened by an lpn unit manager because i made more than her. i think she should have been terminated immediately, and that is why i would not accept a suspension, i did not want to work under those circumstances. this same lpn went around and did things the doc's did not order even after she was told by them not to. med errors abound, no one seems to care. i was told by my favorite super that narrative nn's are illegal...not. when i pointed errors out i was told that it was because those nurses have been nurses for so many years. wrong is wrong were i come form. the real shame is that i love my residents and protect them. i actually give all my meds, and correctly. i could write volumes on this and more, but to cut to the chase, nursing is very political. i am not giving up, most facilities understand the politics of nursing. i love nusing, i put patient saftey before paper work which i do anyway 99.9% of the time. i am looking for answers. if nursing is not about the patient it is not nursing. anyone who can help solve our confusion, please help. nursing shortage, nah. i have seen really good nuses fired for reasons i cannot comprehend, and really, really bad nurses allowed to continue to keep making unsafe errors. why?
i continue to be astounded about what is happening to my profession across the globe by other "professionals". how can we succeed???? well, that is the million $ ?.
this is becoming a tough thread, but it speaks as to the variables of the quality of people in our profession. some are burt, and think, two firings,,,, it's you baby... others have been obviously strongly burnt unjustifiably and speak up, saying... "this is real, it is happening.
problem as i see it is that it is both, we have people that need to go, and we lack the strength, resources and stamina to nurture those that can. we as good nurses know who is worthy, most are and it is our responsibiltity to the next generation to do so... so why are we falling short? i know, the falling short is not most of us, but we know, when our lack luster peers precept... we get lack luster employees.
i'm a minimalist, after a long stint of management and staffing at the same time that it is up to us. please make a difference, pick up a precepte, nurture, dig out a floundering employee even if you stay later when they leave on time... if it doesn't fall down to us in the grassroots.... then who is left to train our young?
sappy if you will, but still correct, consider it.
op- we've chatted through pm's, you have my upmost support, may you find the same in your peers. i'm 13 yrs in and sappy enough to make a difference each day....... will you? lets grow our profession!!!!!
Oct 19, '07From: US ; Joined: Jan '06; Posts: 13,193; Likes: 17,909Well, I had completely forgotten about unemployment. Filed today.
I realized that I had fewer than two weeks of actually being precepted, and that was just to play some twisted game about not firing me immediately. Week one, classroom. Week two, preceptor one says I am not open to learning and could be unsafe. No one tells me this. Spend another week with four different preceptors. Disastrous. One had me sobbing and had the other nurses reporting HER to the nurse manager for mistreating me. Final preceptor, I'm learning a LOT, find out last week I'm not on the new schedule. Get a ONE WEEK schedule that I didn't finish out. Can we say, set up to fail?
So I'm feeling far less incompetent today and far more hopeful. I know two things: I don't want LTC and I don't want med/surg.
Thank you, everyone.
Oct 19, '07Occupation: Licensed Practical Nurse Specialty: Community Health, Med-Surg, Home Health ; From: US ; Joined: Sep '05; Posts: 9,297; Likes: 8,221I am absolutely outraged!! I know what you have been through the past year, and these butt holes really didn't give you much of a chance. I am so sorry that this happened. It seemed that they didn't have a real excuse.:angryfire
Oct 19, '07Occupation: elderly care night sister Specialty: Nursing Home ,Dementia Care,Neurology. ; Joined: Apr '04; Posts: 4,306; Likes: 1,528Chin up ,Sue you will find something you like!!Sorry to hear you got fired but don't give up on the nursing....we need people like you!
Oct 19, '07Occupation: Triage RN for 18 MD cardiology practice Specialty: 24 year(s) of experience in ER, Occupational Health, Cardiology ; Joined: Apr '07; Posts: 526; Likes: 172Quote from SuesquatchNow you're cooking with gas! Before anyone tries to blow me out of the water, remember that I was an LPN for nearly 4 years before I got my RN, and I wouldn't trade my experience for anything.I'm not going back as an LPN, and I'm sure as heck not going back to med/surg. Once I am an RN I have options, and they are not only the nursing home or med/surg.
BUT, as Sue said, RNs definitely do have more options and avenues to explore.
Good luck, Sue!
Oct 19, '07Joined: Jun '05; Posts: 143; Likes: 73Suesquatch,
I am so, so very sorry to hear this has happened to you. I am in agreement with previous posters in regards to mentors setting new nurses up for failure. I had it happen to me. It truly sucks. Because you know "could be unsafe", like someone else said, applies to us ALL. We're overworked, understaffed, and going on little sleep from double shifts....that makes any of us potentially unsafe at times.
I agree that the RN will open up new doors for opportunities for you. I hope in the meantime you will hang around allnurses, as I, too, have enjoyed your posts....and you have the biggest prerequisite for being a nurse: HEART.
It's truly becoming harder and harder to find satisfying jobs as an LPN. In LTC, we are overworked, understaffed, and going on little sleep. In office settings, we aren't feeling like we're making much of a difference/using nursing skills at times, and in med/surg we're handing out meds and hurting our bodies with doing pt care/CNA type work, which is back breaking, and I can't tell you how MUCH I RESPECT those CNA's!! But it's just becoming increasingly hard to find a satisfying job with the LPN behind you. Finishing your RN will be the best thing you could do. You show them!!!! The best revenge is to live happy....
YOU will be just fine. It will be hard at first, cutting expenses (we've had to, as I am out of work temporarily until they find out what is wrong with me).....but for you....you will find that cutting expenses, having more time to devot to YOU and your studies, will make money seem a whole lot less important. And you can always take a small part time job in retail (it's the holiday season coming up) to supplement income if you feel the need.
You're a great nurse. Keep your chin up. It will all work out.
Oct 19, '07Joined: Nov '06; Posts: 20,715; Likes: 23,950Sue, I am so, so, sorry.
Sometimes you want to just punch someone til they hurt as much as you do. I'm there with you right now, though not over a job.
You are in my thoughts and prayers.
Take care of yourself. Eat right. Rest. Exercise.
And hang in there.
I hear you. I'm tying a knot at the end of my rope & hanging on too, sister. We can hang on together, & we'll both be ok in the end.
Oct 19, '07From: US ; Joined: Jan '06; Posts: 13,193; Likes: 17,909Thanks again, everyone.
Well, I went for a run this morning, applied for unemployment, found out how much my last check will be, surfed the 'net (well, AllNurses), patted my dogs, and now I'm going to take a shower and hit Wal*Mart and buy something to make for dinner and something CHOCOLATE.
Arwen, totooo, anyone who wants to talk, feel free to email or pm me. I'm so sorry for your troubles, too.
I feel better than I thopught I would today, but I'm weepy again. But not sobbing. Just a bit teary.
Oct 19, '07Joined: Nov '06; Posts: 20,715; Likes: 23,950And like my grandma always said, living well is the best revenge.
Oct 19, '07Occupation: MedLeg Consul/Educator/WHNP-FNP Specialty: 35 year(s) of experience in Education, FP, LNC, Forensics, ED, OB ; From: US ; Joined: Jun '05; Posts: 108,747; Likes: 28,305You are a glutton for punishment if you are venturing forth in that place, WalMart, sue. LOL!!!!
((((((((HUGS)))))))) for you..........
Oct 19, '07From: US ; Joined: Jan '06; Posts: 13,193; Likes: 17,909:smilecoffeecup:
The Wal*Mart here is the envy of every district manager in the northeast. Clean, helpful employees, good morale - criminy! I worked there for awhile, too. Just before I went to nursing school - WM much too hard for far too little money. Like any other retailer.
Oct 19, '07Joined: Oct '07; Posts: 25; Likes: 1Quote from Suesquatchsorry Sue, hope everything turns out all right.wish u all the best,Thanks, all. It's just hard to type through the tears. I've been crying off and on since I got the news.
I didn't "do" anything. A couple of preceptors gave me a hard time, told the manager that I wasn't "open to learning" and that they "felt" I "could be" unsafe, so I was given to another preceptor who apparently agreed.
Anyway. I actually hated what I was doing, since day one, job one. Now I need to figure out what's next.
Oct 19, '07Joined: Oct '07; Posts: 4; Likes: 7I am a new nurse. I have 18 months long term and sub-acute experience. I have found resigning is almost impossible. When you try they say you're fired. 4 jobs in 18 months, and I am about to start again. I may not have been the best nurse at first, but as a RN student, we were trained as hospital nurses, but I could not get a job in a hospital, primarily, I think because I am over fifty. I am now an excellent nurse, even my DON who I stayed with for 10 months said I was an excellent nurse. But after working 2 shifts, and as supervisor I did not write my assesment on a patient I sent to the hospital. I went back in and the administer wanted to suspend me (oh, and my husband was getting his first dose of chemo for lung cancer that morning). My DON was upset that I would not take a suspension. I have found that LPN's are very jealous of RN, but hey, they could get their RN's if money is an issue to them, but instead the lie and backstab. My life was even threatened by an LPN unit manager because I made more than her. I think she should have been terminated immediately, and that is why I would not accept a suspension, I did not want to work under those circumstances. This same LPN went around and did things the doc's did not order even after she was told by them not to. Med errors abound, no one seems to care. I was told by my favorite super that narrative nn's are illegal...NOT. When I pointed errors out I was told that it was because those nurses have been nurses for SO many years. Wrong is wrong were I come form. The real shame is that I love my residents and protect them. I actually give all my meds, and correctly. I could write volumes on this and more, but to cut to the chase, nursing is very political. I am not giving up, most facilities understand the politics of nursing. I love nusing, I put patient saftey before paper work which I do anyway 99.9% of the time. I am looking for answers. If nursing is not about the patient it is not nursing. Anyone who can help solve our confusion, PLEASE help. Nursing shortage, Nah. I have seen really good nuses fired for reasons I cannot comprehend, and REALLY, REALLY bad nurses allowed to continue to keep making unsafe errors. WHY?