SNOTTY MA claiming to be a nurse!!!! - page 2

:angryfire i had to take my 11 month old to the immediate care. he has chicken pox. the ma is talking and my 4 year old asks if her brother is going to get a shot. the ma says, "no, he won't get a... Read More

  1. by   changeofpaceRN
    I'm still trying to pick my jaw up from the floor... I can not believe she even said that!!!!! Yay for your daughter though- she is a smart one...
  2. by   ®Nurse
    Quote from orthorn09
    i agree, that particular ma was way out of line.

    however, i am going to defend the ma's in general here. they go to school for more than 6 months and have just as much training as an lpn, it is just more clinic based than hospital. they are trained for x-rays, lab, as well as obtaining vitals, giving injections, drawing blood, administering medications, and a multitude of other things. i would know, i spent 11 years working as a ma before i went back for my rn. one of the surgeons i worked for referred to me as his "nurse" for 6 years. i wasn't about to correct him each time in front of patients. i referred to myself as his assistant and would happily explain my title to anyone who asked.
    i am at an almost total loss of words to politely explain how saddened and totally powerless i feel about people who allow that kind of transgression to continue. ma's know they are not nurses.
  3. by   csclarkrn
    Did you speak to the office manager or office adminstrator? The MD heard the conversation and aplogized for her but he should also call her into his office for a lecture if not termination papers. There are to many MA's that are good to put up with that sloppy, jealous, insolent behaviour. Imagine how she treats patients behind closed doors or those who are afraid to speak up or that knows the difference in an RN or MA or LPN. Your daughter deserves an icecream or dessert of her choosing.She is going to make an excellent nurse one day.
  4. by   OrthoRN09
    Quote from PlaneFlyerRN
    I am at an almost total loss of words to politely explain how saddened and totally powerless I feel about people who allow that kind of transgression to continue. MA's KNOW they are not nurses.
    And did you read what else I wrote??? I did not identify myself as a "nurse" and was well aware that I was not a nurse. You go ahead and correct a surgeon in front of patients and see where that gets you. I'm not doing it.
  5. by   ®Nurse
    Quote from OrthoRN09
    And did you read what else I wrote??? I did not identify myself as a "nurse" and was well aware that I was not a nurse. You go ahead and correct a surgeon in front of patients and see where that gets you. I'm not doing it.
    Still speechless................
  6. by   OrthoRN09
    Quote from PlaneFlyerRN
    Still speechless................
    Apparently not.
  7. by   NurseMaryB
    Quote from OrthoRN09
    I agree, that particular MA was way out of line.

    However, I am going to defend the MA's in general here. They go to school for MORE than 6 months and have just as much training as an LPN, it is just more clinic based than hospital. They are trained for x-rays, lab, as well as obtaining vitals, giving injections, drawing blood, administering medications, and a multitude of other things. I would know, I spent 11 years working as a MA before I went back for my RN. One of the surgeons I worked for referred to me as his "nurse" for 6 years. I wasn't about to correct him each time in front of patients. I referred to myself as his assistant and would happily explain my title to anyone who asked.
    No offense here but, MAs don't have the same amount of training as LPNs. Most LPN schools you have to do insane amounts of clinical time and hands on training. Also most new-grad LPN students are way more prepared to be on the floor nurses than new-grad RN students.

    I agree this MA was out of line extremely. And you should totally give your daughter a treat! That's very smart that she knows the difference.
  8. by   GadgetRN71
    Quote from OrthoRN09
    And did you read what else I wrote??? I did not identify myself as a "nurse" and was well aware that I was not a nurse. You go ahead and correct a surgeon in front of patients and see where that gets you. I'm not doing it.
    Just because someone is a surgeon doesn't make them perfect, or incapable of doing the wrong thing. You certainly don't have to correct them in front of patients, but I've confronted them in private. That's what being a nurse is, advocating for patients and yourself and not allowing yourself to be cowed by someone's title. A real nurse knows this.

    I swear, that's why doctors like to have MAs in the office, they're cheap and apparently, they throw in ego stroking as well. Cold hard fact is, an MA is nowhere near the same thing as an LPN or RN and when they are referred to as "nurse" by themselves or anyone else, it's wrong and it's fraudulent.:angryfire

    OP, your kid is the coolest 4 year old EVER..
  9. by   JBudd
    Quote from OrthoRN09
    And did you read what else I wrote??? I did not identify myself as a "nurse" and was well aware that I was not a nurse. You go ahead and correct a surgeon in front of patients and see where that gets you. I'm not doing it.
    Then you should have asked him in private not to call you his nurse as it sets both of you up for all sorts of legal problems and/or expectations. If he called you a nurse, his patients had the right to expect a level of care that an MA cannot legally provide.

    But this thread is about an out-of-line MA, and a totally terrific 4 year old.
  10. by   Valerie Salva
    KY LPN to RN-

    Thank you for sticking up for yourself- and for all of us!

    And please give your daughter a big "thank you" from all of us!
  11. by   RN1982
    "If you're mom is such a great nurse, she wouldn't have to be here with me taking care of your brother."


    This comment right here ****** me off and I'm not even a mother. Kids get sick. What are you suppose to do? Turn your kid into bubble boy? I can't believe she said that too you. I would report her to the proper authorities that deal with people impersonating nurses.
  12. by   Valerie Salva
    Quote from OrthoRN09
    I agree, that particular MA was way out of line.

    However, I am going to defend the MA's in general here. They go to school for MORE than 6 months and have just as much training as an LPN, it is just more clinic based than hospital. They are trained for x-rays, lab, as well as obtaining vitals, giving injections, drawing blood, administering medications, and a multitude of other things. I would know, I spent 11 years working as a MA before I went back for my RN. One of the surgeons I worked for referred to me as his "nurse" for 6 years. I wasn't about to correct him each time in front of patients. I referred to myself as his assistant and would happily explain my title to anyone who asked.
    No -they do not have just as much education or training as an LPN.

    With prerequisites, my LPN program was two full years long, full time- including summers. (I'm an RN now).

    You were wrong to allow yourself to be called by a title you did not earn. Being afraid of a surgeon is no excuse.

    Quote from SquirrelRN71
    Just because someone is a surgeon doesn't make them perfect, or incapable of doing the wrong thing. You certainly don't have to correct them in front of patients, but I've confronted them in private. That's what being a nurse is, advocating for patients and yourself and not allowing yourself to be cowed by someone's title. A real nurse knows this.

    I swear, that's why doctors like to have MAs in the office, they're cheap and apparently, they throw in ego stroking as well. Cold hard fact is, an MA is nowhere near the same thing as an LPN or RN and when they are referred to as "nurse" by themselves or anyone else, it's wrong and it's fraudulent.:angryfire

    OP, your kid is the coolest 4 year old EVER..
    Agree 100%.
  13. by   Jo Dirt
    This has to be a hypothetical situation...

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