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I think we all know smoking is bad for us. Even if we do it, but should any place be able to not hire a smoker? I understand no smoke breaks and no smoking on the grounds. But you can't work here because you smoke at home! What do you think?

Originally posted by SmilingBluEyes

attack the HABIT, not the PEOPLE JIM...

I THINK THAT IS THE POINT!!

no one here EVER said "smoking is a good thing"....

but your messages attack those who smoke---for myriad reasons that may be illegitimate to YOU-----but they do. Don't attack THEM---attack the cigarettes and the addiction. That was the message here.

Attacking people is not the intent of these posts even though it may be interpreted that way.....but attacking cigs and the habit has to start with the person, afterall that is where the addiction lyes...AWARENESS is also very important...I'll be willing to bet money that most smokers did not know that there were people out there that found them so offensive and that there are many people who have similar views to my own...non smokers have been too polite and too tolerant when it comes to this kind of thing...we should be attacking crime the same way and Nursing abuse the same way.....but those are completely different topics.

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so INTOLERANCE and DISCRIMINATION are the answer?

i just dont' think so.

i think helping those who want to quit, is.

Originally posted by barefootlady

all of the preaching in the world about why not to smoke has not made a dent on my thick nicotine skin. I sure want to thank Jim,

his kind words are appreciated.

Not trying to change your mind...thats a choice you have to make on your own...just like smoking was a choice that you made on your own...I just want to make you aware thats all (I am sure you are already aware of some of these things)....When you quit smoking and extend your life for yourself and your loved ones, then you can thank me and especially thank yourself for making a good decision. :)

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She will have HERSELF to thank Jim, not YOU.

I was being somewhat sarcastic and did you read the last part of the post.....especially thank yourself????;)

Originally posted by SmilingBluEyes

so INTOLERANCE and DISCRIMINATION are the answer?

i just dont' think so.

i think helping those who want to quit, is.

In the healthcare setting, I dont think it is a matter of tolerance or discrimination...it is a matter of "CONSIDERATION" for the most important people in the facility THE PATIENTS!!!!:eek:

Geez you're a pilot Jim? It's a wonder your plan hasn't had to have an emergency ladning due to the weight of your EGO. My mother smoked while she was pregnant,(she quit last year BTW) and I think I turned out all right.

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if they are smoking at HOME jim, how is that compromising anyone ELSE, including patients?

they are not even allowed to smoke at HOME.

that is OVERSTEPPING in my BOOK!!!

Originally posted by SmilingBluEyes

if they are smoking at HOME jim, how is that compromising anyone ELSE, including patients?

they are not even allowed to smoke at HOME.

that is OVERSTEPPING in my BOOK!!!

Well, at home..they arent necessarily compromising their patients they are compromising those around them such as children or the elderly that have no choice but to sit there and breathe it all in, as far as compromising their patients, this has been addressed in one of my previous posts. Did that answer your question?

Originally posted by warrior woman

Geez you're a pilot Jim? It's a wonder your plan hasn't had to have an emergency ladning due to the weight of your EGO. My mother smoked while she was pregnant,(she quit last year BTW) and I think I turned out all right.

EGO has nothing to do with it...are you trying to tell me that smoking is OK when you are pregnant...my mother smoked while I was in the womb and that was before we all knew about the inherient health risks...pregnant women who smoke today are insane and that just proves how selfish they can be when they will take drug addiction over the health of their unborn child.

and a HUGE congrats to your mother :roll

BTW as I have said in the past, my mother smokes and is cutting way down and will hopefully quit soon, she has been Dx'd with cancer of the bladder as a result of smoking....the carcinogens are filtered out by the liver and the kidneys and concentrated in the bladder, over the years this irritates the lining of the bladder and causes cellular changes, especially if the person is chronically in a state of dehydration (my mother NEVER drinks water). Just thought I'd let you guys know this.

Jim,

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