Sleeping during nightshift!! - page 11
This is not my first night shift position and I am shocked at how many people at this hospital sleep during their shift. I'm not talking about nodding off for a couple minutes either. They are... Read More
Mar 3, '07Occupation: Operating Room Nurse Specialty: 5 yrs OR, ASU Pre-Op 2 yr. ER ; From: US ; Joined: Jun '03; Posts: 17,036; Likes: 1,008Originally Posted by lorster
These self righteous nurses on this board who feel that nurses should not take a nap during their "unpaid" breaks are the professions "know it alls" I'm sure most of them are day shift nurses who either had NEVER worked a night shift...or have not worked one in so long, they don't remember how long it can be.
Mar 3, '07Joined: Oct '06; Posts: 1,256; Likes: 66Quote from Marie_LPNMaybe it was the tone of somebody's delivery of their opinion. I've noticed before on other threads that one person will have a 'self rightous' tone in their post, then everyone else who shares their opinion gets lumped with the one who is particularly strident.Amazing it is when people have a different opinion, they are automatically "self-righteous" and "know-it-alls" to some. What a shame.
Mar 10, '07Occupation: MDS/Care Plan Coord. Specialty: 16 year(s) of experience in Med. Surg., Perioperative, & LTC ; Joined: Mar '07; Posts: 3To any of you professionals that do "Nap at Night" while working.... How would you feel if your most precious loved one was under the care of someone who does that?? I've worked nights, days and evenings and I have found work is rarely ever done. There is always so much more that we as nurses can do for our patients and our co-workers.
Mar 10, '07Joined: Oct '02; Posts: 60,613; Likes: 17,452Please lets try to stick to the topic at hand and leave the judgements of one another out of the discussion.
There's a way to disagree with someone without calling them self-righteous.
Thanks.Last edit by Tweety on Mar 10, '07
Mar 10, '07Specialty: 3 year(s) of experience in telemetry ; From: US ; Joined: Nov '05; Posts: 106; Likes: 54Seriously, who has TIME to sleep?????????
I work 12 hour nights, and I am running pretty much the whole time. I am lucky to get 15-20 minutes of my lunch, and any of my non-existant 3X15min breaks. Same goes for my other fellow night shifters.....
At this point I would be happy to HAVE a break. And if I have overtime, I wish they would include the 1.25 hours of break I worked through (3-15's and 30min lunch) They only count how much OVER you work.
Management says to have others cover you so you can take a break. Easier said than done when others are just as busy as you......
My 2 cents, it is YOUR break, YOUR time to do with it what you wish.
I find it a little disheartening when others think all night-shifters do is sleep on the job and that they could do sooo much more for their patients.
Mar 10, '07Occupation: MDS/Care Plan Coord. Specialty: 16 year(s) of experience in Med. Surg., Perioperative, & LTC ; Joined: Mar '07; Posts: 3How can you elude that possible lack of patient care (by sleeping while on duty) can not be the "topic at hand"? Why else would we have a problem with doing it?
Mar 10, '07Occupation: Registered Nurse Specialty: 12 year(s) of experience in Psych, Med/Surg, LTC ; From: US ; Joined: Nov '05; Posts: 1,734; Likes: 756I am a bit confused here. Are we discussing sleeping while on the clock, or sleeping while on an unpaid break? I don't see the difference if someone goes outside for a smoke, a trip to Burger King, home to see their kid, or takes a nap on an unpaid break. In either circumstance, the employee is not getting paid, and they are temporarily not on duty. I don't see a difference. A nurse won't be taking care of anyone while at Burger King/hospital cafeteria just the same as if they were napping. Now sleeping while you are on the clock, thats another story.
Mar 10, '07Joined: May '05; Posts: 445; Likes: 17ok that sounds nice but how on earth can you sleep that long during your shift, you must have less charting or really quiet, healthy patients. We have ratio laws here so our ratios are same as yours. Pay sounds similar too. But sleeping 2-3 hrs a night? Why would they want to pay you guys $60+ per nurse to sleep? We get a half hour break, I generally eat right there while charting. I have never, ever slept and don't need to - I sleep 8 hrs during the day. On days when I'm returning to work I take a 2 hr nap in the afternoon. If I had 2 hrs to sit around at work I don't know what I'd do with myself, I guess read a book or cruise the internet?
Quote from silly1982WHAT I'M READING IS CRAZY
WHAT ARE YOU ALL DOING TO YOURSELVES? NOT being able to sleep on a night shift, reporting other nurses, getting written up, slaving away...
I passed the NCLEX and let me tell you, there is no way I'll take a nights position. Ever.
This is how it works here in Vancouver Canada
Not only is the starting salary 27 something for a new grad...after two years I'm making $29 something. Buttt....
* We only have 4 patients per shift...max five on Night shifts
* On night shifts, depending on the floor we sleep 2-2.5/3 hours
* We go to the lounge or empty rooms and sleep. We get woken up by half the nurses that stay behind to watch OUR and their own patients.
* Then, we look after theirr patients when they go to sleep.
* Result: everyone is happy, gets along, no one writes no one up, everyone feels much better in the morning.
I"ve had one night in the last two years where I didn't get any sleep and I felt like I would throw up by 6am. Not a very nice feeling. Imagine what that does to your body!
Please, why are you all writing each other up and treating each other so badly. There isn't only one way to be a good nurse, patients are just as safely taken care of here, as where you live.
Mar 10, '07Joined: Oct '02; Posts: 60,613; Likes: 17,452Quote from LandlordBy sticking to the topic at hand I mean, not calling each other self-righteous and then talking about the one who is calling us self-righteous. This type of talk contributes nothing. Agree with sleeping on the job, or not, just keep personal judgements about each other out of it. Understand? Thanks.How can you elude that possible lack of patient care (by sleeping while on duty) can not be the "topic at hand"? Why else would we have a problem with doing it?
Mar 10, '07Joined: Oct '06; Posts: 1,256; Likes: 66When you are on your unpaid break, the pt isn't "under your care", so it is a moot point. The pt is under the care of another person. If that was my loved one, I would be glad that the nurse had another extra hour of sleep and would be more alert later in the shift, therefore more vigilant.
Mar 10, '07Joined: Oct '02; Posts: 60,613; Likes: 17,452Quote from GardenDoveI think there have been some recent studies to actually validate this. Nappers are more productive due to increased alertness, etc. I just heard that on the news this week, but don't have a source, so don't quote me on that.When you are on your unpaid break, the pt isn't "under your care", so it is a moot point. The pt is under the care of another person. If that was my loved one, I would be glad that the nurse had another extra hour of sleep and would be more alert later in the shift, therefore more vigilant.
Mar 10, '07Joined: Oct '06; Posts: 1,256; Likes: 66Quote from TweetyI believe I refer to it earlier in this venerable thread. It was a short article in a recent Nursing 2007 that cited a study that showed the benefits of napping for nightshifters.I think there have been some recent studies to actually validate this. Nappers are more productive due to increased alertness, etc. I just heard that on the news this week, but don't have a source, so don't quote me on that.
Mar 10, '07Specialty: ICU ; Joined: Jul '05; Posts: 52; Likes: 1Sleeping 2.5-3 hours per night during your shift? Maybe we should all move to Canada!
I have worked both days and nights. At my facility sleeping is strictly prohibited and people have gotten fired for doing it. If policy allowed, I wouldn't be totally against sleeping on our unpaid break as long as another nurse took responsibility for the patients. But, usually there is no time for a full break anyway! On the other hand, there is a day shift nurse on our unit who frequently leaves the unit for long periods of time and no one has any idea where she is, even when she is put in charge! This is in addition to her long lunch break. I don't see how that is going on when people are being fired for sleeping. Just my