Religion's Place in Nursing

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sbic56, BSN, RN

1,437 Posts

Specializes in Obstetrics, M/S, Psych.

louisepug

OK...your explanation of what you believe sits much better with me than an actual rising from the dead. That is just is too far out there. Spirit, yes. I believe in the spirit and I can imagine one as good as Jesus had a very strong one at that! I have felt them (spirits). I can almost believe that perhaps, maybe Jesus' was bright enough to shine on many at the same time.

J Lynn

451 Posts

Specializes in Endocrinology.

I'm not sure how to respond to all these posts. It saddens me. I'm not going to start a debate only because as a Christian, I don't like to argue about religion. Some people just don't get it. If you are seeking peace in your life, then try doing it without Jesus, and let me know how it's working for you.

psychomachia

184 Posts

Some people just don't get it. If you are seeking peace in your life, then try doing it without Jesus, and let me know how it's working for you.

works for me....

Brickman

129 Posts

If you are seeking peace in your life, then try doing it without Jesus, and let me know how it's working for you.

:rolleyes: It's this kind of backhanded nastiness from so called christians that keeps me out of church. :rolleyes:

sbic56, BSN, RN

1,437 Posts

Specializes in Obstetrics, M/S, Psych.
I'm not sure how to respond to all these posts. It saddens me. I'm not going to start a debate only because as a Christian, I don't like to argue about religion. Some people just don't get it. If you are seeking peace in your life, then try doing it without Jesus, and let me know how it's working for you.

It would help your cause, if you could realize that your way is not the only way. Your statement shows no respect for others belief systems. There are many paths to peace and enlightenment. You, in effect, say that unless everyone folllows the same faith as you, they are retched souls of no hope. Even Jesus wouldn't approve of a stance such as you have taken.

docnurse

4 Posts

What saddens me is that somewhere along the line so many people have had dealings with "righteous Christians" that have totally turned them against Christianity. I was always taught that I had no right to force my beliefs on anyone. All people are loved by God, whether they all believe alike or not.

Jaaaman

73 Posts

Oh, didn't realize that Billy was there 2000 years ago :angryfire ... I am Presbryterian, but believe that the bible is metaphorical. Ain't no one rising from the dead...I think the message is that being conveyed is that death isn't the end and/or personal change is always possible. And it's funny how "holy" billy is, and then goes on to bash some of god's children (gay, jewish,etc.) Someone who is truly enlightened shows tolerance and acceptance of others.

Where in the letter does he bash God's children? I did not read anything that he said to indicate intolerance or unacceptance of others.

Jaaaman

73 Posts

And besides which, this lady was asking Billy Graham what she could do to overcome her feelings about death. What was he going to say? "I'm sorry lady, I can't state my personal convictions in fear of you thinking my thoughts are intolerant and bashing you because of your unbelief"?

Of course he's going to try to give her the best biblical advice he can on the subject of death!

allnurses Guide

Spidey's mom, ADN, BSN, RN

11,304 Posts

Actually I remember reading an article about Mr. Graham in TIME a few years ago. And I am familiar with his writings and you couldn't be more wrong about him.

"in the 1980s he became a preacher of world peace, urging reconciliation with Russia and China, where his wife Ruth, the daughter of missionaries, was born. Angry Fundamentalists turned against him, a move that became an anti-Graham passion when he rejected the program of the Christian right: "I don't think Jesus or the Apostles took sides in the political arenas of their day." The break between Graham and the Christian right became absolute when he denounced the violence of the antiabortion group Operation Rescue. "The tactics," Graham declared, "ought to be prayer and discussion."

He is NOT Pat Robertson or Jerry Falwell. His compassion shines and even though he holds "fundamental" beliefs about abortion, etc., he reaches out with love and compassion instead of anger and divisiveness. Billy does not bash God's children.

And just a little observation for those of you who don't believe in the resurrection . . .you are taking to task those who do for belittling your beliefs while at the same time belittling those of us who do.

A conversation about the resurrection is fine but lets not bash each other.

steph

J Lynn

451 Posts

Specializes in Endocrinology.
All people are loved by God, whether they all believe alike or not.

But not everyone loves God, yet expect him to be there in tough times.

J Lynn

451 Posts

Specializes in Endocrinology.
:rolleyes: It's this kind of backhanded nastiness from so called christians that keeps me out of church. :rolleyes:

I'm not at all nasty. I've never even used the back of my hand to be nasty.:chuckle

donmurray

837 Posts

Billy G has a track record of intolerance and smallmindedness more than fifty years long.

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