Phd Nursing vs MD financially - page 2

hey, guys I know there's a lot of nurses in here. Please tell me from what you know or heard. How much money someone with any of these degrees make???? M.D. PhD Nursing MSN ARNP CRNA Who... Read More

  1. by   Dr. JJ
    At the end of the day, anyone can get married, have kids, family, etc... that stuff is easy.... It really takes a special, devoted person to get an MD/DO. Cut throat competitive undergrad. Med school, plus residency is enough to make anyone go crazy! Truly special people, who don't make excuses about why they work some mediocre job making a mediocre salary, only to come home and have to hear their spouse crying about bills and some kids screaming, will become doctors. Everyone can justify it anyway they want to make themselves feel better, but at the end of the day Dr > DNP/RN Phd/ >= CRNA > BSN > RN > LPN > CNA. The degree goes along with the sacrifice, commitment and perseverance required to achieve. The money comes second to the prestige.
  2. by   ghillbert
    Quote from Dr. JJ
    Truly special people.....will become doctors....The money comes second to the prestige.
    Haha.... yeah right. Your degree is a reflection of how "special" you are? Get a life. I guess MD/PhD's are more "special" than 'just' MDs?
  3. by   Argo
    Im an RN and I know drs that make less than I do, I know a lot that make more. I only make 130k a year so that doesn't say much for some MDs wages. I don't personally know a PhD or MSN that makes more than I do. Every crna I know make more than me, i know 16 or so.

    Given the choice an knowledge I have now when I was 18 I would have gone the MD route and went for Anesthesia or interventional radiology. Super salaries and their patients have primary and specialist mds that they see/call.
  4. by   countryboy
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    Quote from Dr. JJ
    At the end of the day, anyone can get married, have kids, family, etc... that stuff is easy.... It really takes a special, devoted person to get an MD/DO. Cut throat competitive undergrad. Med school, plus residency is enough to make anyone go crazy! Truly special people, who don't make excuses about why they work some mediocre job making a mediocre salary, only to come home and have to hear their spouse crying about bills and some kids screaming, will become doctors. Everyone can justify it anyway they want to make themselves feel better, but at the end of the day Dr > DNP/RN Phd/ >= CRNA > BSN > RN > LPN > CNA. The degree goes along with the sacrifice, commitment and perseverance required to achieve. The money comes second to the prestige.
    Holy 3 year Resurrection thread batman!!

    Quote from Argo
    Im an RN and I know drs that make less than I do, I know a lot that make more. I only make 130k a year so that doesn't say much for some MDs wages. I don't personally know a PhD or MSN that makes more than I do. Every crna I know make more than me, i know 16 or so.

    Given the choice an knowledge I have now when I was 18 I would have gone the MD route and went for Anesthesia or interventional radiology. Super salaries and their patients have primary and specialist mds that they see/call.
    you miss are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyy overpaid

    Where do you work at?
  5. by   Argo
    I prefer sir. I'm glad you think so.
  6. by   countryboy
    Quote from Argo
    I prefer sir. I'm glad you think so.
    you sir are overpaid...what city do you live in? Also, do you work 80 hrs a wk? if so i can understand your exorbitant pay...no offense
  7. by   ♪♫ in my ♥
    Well, it's silly to talk about "how much does an MD make" because it's highly variable. Some pediatricians and family practice folks earn in the low- to mid- 100K range while many or most neurosurgeons earn well over a million per year (and worth every penny).
  8. by   Argo
    Countryboy.... ever think that maybe you aren't paid enough? I average 50 hours a week. Also, don't make it about what you or I are getting paid, that is of no relevance. I answered the guys/girls question and Its thatt simple.
  9. by   umichcardinal
    Wow, those are probably the lowest earnings I have seen for MD's. I am getting a PhD in medical physics and the Professors I do research with make upwards of $200k a year. The couple assistant Professors I know make about $160k.
  10. by   Mission
    I don't know how one can really answer this question, it really varies so much on specialty, where you work, what industry, etc. If the $ is all that matters, you're better off with an MBA.
  11. by   Patchouli
    one thing everyone is forgetting is location. salaries differ greatly depending on what part of the country you are located. usually they reflect cost of living regionally.
  12. by   pfhs1000
    The person who said if money is really what matters then you should just get an MBA, is right. By the way to all the doctor's on this site that are posting negative comments, you must be really board with the physician sites. I did not read one negative comment bashing any physicians on this thread. Why do you feel the need to bash nurses? Yes, you do get paid quite a bit of money. However, is it really that difficult for you to grasp the idea that not everyone wants to be a doctor. We are not making excuses for not becoming one, or even lack the ability or determination. We simply lack the desire. Your rigorous schedule does not appeal to many of us. I work 3 days a week and spend the other four with my family. And, no I don't come home to a spouse gripping out bills. BTW did I mention that I became a nurse just because I wanted to feel like I was doing something good for others. I have an MBA. I made a hefty 6 figure income, and when I had kids I decided to move on. I made some very smart investments and have protected my income through retirement. I am in the position to do what I want to do as a profession without the concern of income being a factor. I am truly fortunate. Oh, did I mention that my husband is an engineer for apple. He makes pretty good money too. Just because you strut down the halls of the hospital with your big degree and big income does not give you the right to think you are better than anyone. Next time you look down your nose at a nurse you might want to reconsider the fact that you don't know the first thing about them or why they decided to be a nurse. Or better yet, why don't you reconsider the whole idea that you just "know" that you are better and more powerful. The truth is in the world of power and money, you are a small fry my friend. A small, small fry indeed. BTW why don't you try to take care of your patients without us.
  13. by   Nccity2002
    Quote from Dr. JJ
    At the end of the day, anyone can get married, have kids, family, etc... that stuff is easy.... It really takes a special, devoted person to get an MD/DO. Cut throat competitive undergrad. Med school, plus residency is enough to make anyone go crazy! Truly special people, who don't make excuses about why they work some mediocre job making a mediocre salary, only to come home and have to hear their spouse crying about bills and some kids screaming, will become doctors. Everyone can justify it anyway they want to make themselves feel better, but at the end of the day Dr > DNP/RN Phd/ >= CRNA > BSN > RN > LPN > CNA. The degree goes along with the sacrifice, commitment and perseverance required to achieve. The money comes second to the prestige.
    I have a master (NP) in nursing, and although I am very proud of my academic achievements, that does not define who I am (I have a life). It is a sad state of affairs when someone base their self worth on a degree.

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