NP discusses MJ on national TV ???? - page 4

I just watched CNN and a nurse practioner(she gave her name) was on the phone giving information about Michael Jackson and what he discussed with her and what medication he was given (not by her) for... Read More

  1. by   leslie :-D
    Quote from Pierrette
    There are specific regulations that determine who is covered by HIPAA.

    http://www.cms.hhs.gov/hipaageninfo/...titycharts.pdf
    if i am reading it correctly, if the nurse does not conduct any of her business via electronic form, then she is not obligated by hipaa regs??

    anyone else reading it as i do?

    leslie
  2. by   oramar
    Quote from southernbeegirl
    i think they meant if she WASNT working for him.



    besides HIPAA violations though...am i the only one that doesnt believe a word she says? dont get me wrong.....i believe with my whole heart that he was an addict and was able to take his addiction to a level most never achieve due to his wealth.

    but there is something about her story...i just dont believe a word she says. i dont know why, i just dont.

    and i say again......i blame jackson for his death. but if somehow he were really getting propofol in a home environment, then they should be prosecuted for that because that is wrong on so many levels i wouldnt even know where to start.
    You got a point, many times in the past the news media has been so eager to report A STORY that it forgets to check things out for authenticity.
  3. by   herring_RN
    I don't getr it.
    If this is true then privacy is not the purpose of HIPAA.

    So if I care for a patient in the home and was hired by word of mouth I can tell a tabloid about the patient?

    Of course it is morally and ethically wrong but is it illegal?
  4. by   ohmeowzer RN
    i think she just wants to jump on the MJ bandwagon and get famous. i really do ..
  5. by   BabyRN2Be
    Quote from ohmeowzer RN
    i think she just wants to jump on the MJ bandwagon and get famous. i really do ..
    I totally agree with this, 100%. Also include in the list aging star looking-for-that-last-15-minutes-of-fame Lou Ferrigno. Really makes me sick. All these people who claimed to "know" him a little bit better than others are just looking for their 15 minutes. A shame, really.
  6. by   leanmachine
    Quote from ohmeowzer RN
    i think she just wants to jump on the MJ bandwagon and get famous. i really do ..
    Or she was just too scared and panicked that she would be implicated in MJ's death. Maybe wanted to clear her involvement? But it looks like she made it worst considering HIPAA.

    Anyway, what are the protocols if she was indeed a client of Cherilyn Lee? The NP(Lee) should have followed-up on MJ too right after giving him prescription or on a regular basis? I think she did based on her interview that she tried to call MJ but was not answering. Did she ever document or made a record of interaction between her and MJ? Looks like she did not document it based on her interview.

    Sorry for so many questions, I'm a newbie and just curios.
  7. by   wanderlust99
    It's really embarrassing that people are calling this idiot a RN on the news networks. I don't believe a word this moron is saying. I find it completely disgusting that she is using her title as a nurse to get press. Looks bad for our profession to have such a stupid person on air. She's a "nutritionist" that's a nurse? She's a f---- idiot.

    I don't want to waste my time looking up her license info. I hope she loses her license, if she even has one. She's probably an aide who calls herself a nurse, who read a book on nutrition and now calls herself a nutritionist.
  8. by   goltzilocks
    Also, not to mention that "ethically" she is way out of bounds. I agree with the others who said they didn't believe her to. She was just so deadpan and had such a flat affect when she was being interviewed. Weird--Weird--Weird!!!!
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  10. by   SweetOldWorld
    I'm not sure if what this NP did was a HIPAA violation, but I am glad to see light being shed on these "boutique doctors" who will give prescriptions for anything and everything their rich clients desire. To me, that's far worse than violating HIPAA, and I want to start seeing some doctors being held accountable for giving out narcotics and other dangerous drugs like they are candy.
  11. by   Lenee925
    Quote from ohmeowzer RN
    i think she just wants to jump on the MJ bandwagon and get famous. i really do ..
    I don't really think so. I gathered that she risking speaking out because she didn't want him being portrayed as a junkie looking to score but a man who needed rest for a 50-concert tour. Also considering all the plastic surgery MJ's had he could have developed a desire to 'fade into the black' of anesthesia.

    From the article: "He wasn't looking to get high or feel good and sedated from drugs," she said. "This was a person who was not on drugs. This was a person who was seeking help, desperately, to get some sleep, to get some rest."
    Last edit by Lenee925 on Jul 3, '09
  12. by   Pierrette
    Quote from leslie :-d
    if i am reading it correctly, if the nurse does not conduct any of her business via electronic form, then she is not obligated by hipaa regs??

    anyone else reading it as i do?

    leslie
    you are close to reading it correctly. if the nurse does not transmit protected health information electronically, then she is not covered by hipaa privacy regulations.


    Quote from herring_rn
    i don't getr it.
    if this is true then privacy is not the purpose of hipaa.
    privacy is only 1/5 of hipaa.

    so if i care for a patient in the home and was hired by word of mouth i can tell a tabloid about the patient?
    if the patient writes you a check for your services and there is no electronic transmission of patient information, then yeah. but you may be in violation of state and local laws.

    of course it is morally and ethically wrong but is it illegal?


    the original question was concerning hipaa. hipaa does not forbid a directly-paid nurse, not using electronic transmission of protected health information, from blabbing. but likely state and local laws do.

    folks tend to think of hipaa as the end-all of privacy regulations. in fact, hipaa just sets a minimum standard that is not unreasonable at all, in that it more or less says, "you got to do at least this much (concerning privacy)". state and local laws are likely more stringent than is hipaa.
  13. by   nerdtonurse?
    Re: access to diprovan

    I asked one of the docs on the floor last night (he was venting about MJ and the diprovan) just how easy/hard it would be to get your hands on diprovan He said that while he could get a lot of different drugs with no problem at all, it pretty much had to be an anesthesiologist or nurse anesth. to get their hands on diprovan thru regular channels. (Not talking about someone swiping a vial or diverting). And that now that the DEA's involved, someone is going down hard.

    He also said that folks like MJ can corrupt even a well meaining doc/nurse -- I mean, suppose you have a pt that opens a suitcase full of cash, and says, "Give me diprovan, and here's a 100 thou, cash, tax free, to monitor me for one night." You're going to find someone who will do it, someone with unpaid child support/alimony, or who's investments belly up'd and they've got kids in Ivy league schools who are needing the next tuition check...Not saying it's right, just saying I could see it happening very easily.

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