Male Nurse Disgusted by Female Nurses

This male nurse is appalled at his female colleagues' behavior. Is he right? Nurses General Nursing Article

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Hi Beth:

I believe you submitted a recent article about Safe Patient/Nurse Ratios in this country. I have been a nurse for about one year and a half and I am appalled by what I have observed with the untenable and unsafe patient/nurse ratios healthcare employers are demanding nurses work with, BUT, I am even more FRUSTRATED and DISGUSTED with the TOTAL LACK OF UNITY among nurses when it comes to speaking in one voice to employers about this.

They would rather run to the bathroom and cry or ***** and moan in private never having the guts to unite and square off with the managements responsible for creating unsafe conditions for the sake of profit. I am a male nurse....you ladies always tout this spirit of "Teamwork" on the floors yet I have never in my life witnessed the amount of undermining and backstabbing that exists among nurses.

Before we can begin to force change on healthcare employers we have to take ownership of our failure to unite.Ladies. please stop all the petty politics among yourselves! Let's all come together as one body and push our legislators for change!! We are in the millions and we are in demand!! That is power!!

Dear Male Nurse Disgusted with Female Nurses,

The female experience is very different from the male experience, my friend. You are operating in the largely female world of nursing, and it probably feels very foreign to you. But as women, this is our world and we know it well.

You believe we are petty and fight among ourselves rather than uniting and speaking up to management. Uniting and speaking up to management as one is male behavior. Female behavior is more divisive and it has kept us down as a profession. You're right, the nursing profession is really not built on strength or unification.

But there's a reason for this behavior. As a male, you would not know this as a lived experience.

Female Conditioning

Females are conditioned to envy each other, not to trust each other, and to compete with each other. Females compare themselves to other females all their lives. Girls compare themselves to Barbie, to the pretty girls, to the girls boys like best, to the cheerleaders. To every other girl.

Women are taught to be helpless when they're not, act stupid when they're smart, not be hungry when they're starving, and to remain passive they're angry.

Females are called the "b" word for being assertive and considered to be more feminine when they are "sweet". It's a dichotomy of expectations.

The dichotomy is everywhere. Look at popular movies about mean girls.

Being direct and straightforward is not how women are brought up to communicate whatsoever. Saying what we need is less important than meeting other's needs.

Meanwhile, boys are taught to stick together, in the army, on the football team. You rarely hear doctors criticize other doctors. Even when a patient goes to see a doctor with a condition that was mishandled by another provider, the response is more along the lines of "Well, let's move forward from here".

By contrast, nurses are hard on each other. Nurses can be quick to blame other nurses. As females, we expect perfection from ourselves...and each other.

State boards of nursing, made up of nurses, are notoriously hard on nurses as compared to doctors' governing boards.

There's another reason for your observations about female behavior.

Men Rule

It's still largely a male-dominated world. Men have the power. Look at the recent "Time's Up" issue. Even in liberal Hollywood, men have the power. Hospital boards are largely male. Hospital CEOs are largely male while CNOs are largely female.

It's a tough but true reality.

Even in nursing, a traditionally female occupation, when men become nurses they are often viewed as more qualified. It's no secret that men in nursing make more than women.

Self-Value

But we women have very special qualities. Intuition, compassion. Empathy. We are nurturers. When we focus on those unique gifts and collaborate together, instead of competing with each other, we are our most powerful selves.

No Excuses

This is not to say these explanations are excuses. Excuses are for people who don't take responsibility.

We are a force to be reckoned with once we take responsibility and come together. There are over 3 million nurses in the United States. We act as if we only have a rake when we actually have a bulldozer in the garage. We have enormous ability to bring about change.

How do we rally the masses? I don't know. Nurses do unite in outrage, as in Show Me Your Stethoscope. But there is an apathy around bringing about political change. The nursing profession itself is not unified by the American Nurse's Association (ANA). Some would say the ANA is beholden to the American Hospital Association (AHA). The AHA is a powerful lobby.

For whatever reason, it is time to stand up, stand together, and speak up. There is a grassroots movement that is dedicated to legislating nurse-patient ratios. It's the Nurses Take DC organization.

If every nurse reading this would make a call to their legislator, or write an email- it will make a difference!

Easily find out who your legislators are and make a call.

Write a letter to support H.R. 2392 and S. 1063 Nurse Staffing Standards for Hospital Patient Safety and Quality Care Act of 2017 legislative bills. Legislators respond to topics based on the number of phone calls and mail from their constituents.

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Specializes in M/S, Pulmonary, Travel, Homecare, Psych..

I've never been a fan of blaming my environment or others for my behavior. That's just me. Also, being one who has no desire to be dependent on someone else, I've always scoffed at the "Men rule" culture we live in.

Over my short (yet eventful) lifespan, one thing has bothered me with regards to the "men and women are different" debate. I've always noticed how men seem to form long lasting friendships while women tend to be more drawn to friendships of convenience.

Men: They are "brothers to the bone" and willing to take a bullet for one another. "Just don't touch my wife" is all they say about it.

Women: Best friends forever today, smearing each other's names to anyone who will listen tomorrow.

And that is the core of the gender issue. You put it so well stating "female behavior is more divisive." I'd also agree with "no excuses" and "excuses are for people who don't take responsibility." Men had to graduate from their primitive thinking to what they are now. Isn't it time for us to do so as well? We don't have to be a slave to every preprogrammed inclining and urge.

If he's so sure he knows the solution to effect change, why wait for us female nurses? There are plenty of male nurses out there. He should rally his troops and do it without us.

Specializes in school nurse.

Is it possible that the title of this post is just a bit incendiary...? Especially as it does or does not relate to the content?

This came across as "I'll take no responsibility myself, but blame my female colleagues hysterics for not having safe patient staff ratios"

Let me explain how this letter/question should have been written if you were actually looking for advice on staff shortages.

"I work on a unit with staff shortages and was wondering how I could band together with my fellow colleagues to approach safe nurse to staff ratios".

Change your attitude and you may get somewhere, but until then, you're just as dramatic for coming on a nursing forum and whining about the women you work with. You clearly didn't come here just for advice on nursing shortages or you certainly would have worded it better. It's no better and actually the same thing as the woman who runs to the bathroom crying.

Interesting points Nurse Beth.... but I take issue with the premise of the letter.

The letter writer says he is "FRUSTRATED and DISGUSTED with the TOTAL LACK OF UNITY among nurses", and then goes on to attack his female coworkers. Where does he think unity starts? Why is it their job to initiate it?

He also writes that these nurses should confront management instead of avoiding the issue. What would happen if these nurses got together and demanded better treatment? Would they get it or would they get fired? And, how does he know they haven't tried? Maybe they have made moves to improve their working conditions, but were thwarted by management.

BUT, the thing that bothers me the most is this bit: "Before we can begin to force change on healthcare employers we have to take ownership of our failure to unite. Ladies [emphasis mine]." Where is his ownership of this failure? What has he done to address these issues?

ETA: I don't disagree that petty spats can undermine nurses' bargaining power, and perhaps it is more prevalent within the ranks of female nurses. But, something about that letter...

Love this. Great response.

Over my short (yet eventful) lifespan, one thing has bothered me with regards to the "men and women are different" debate. I've always noticed how men seem to form long lasting friendships while women tend to be more drawn to friendships of convenience.

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As a female I've seriously had the same best friends since I was 12 and I'm 30. We just had a girls night last weekend. I would certainly take a bullet for either one of them and they are basically like sisters at this point. Loyalty runs strong in my bones.

I've never been a fan of blaming my environment or others for my behavior. That's just me. Also, being one who has no desire to be dependent on someone else, I've always scoffed at the "Men rule" culture we live in.

Over my short (yet eventful) lifespan, one thing has bothered me with regards to the "men and women are different" debate. I've always noticed how men seem to form long lasting friendships while women tend to be more drawn to friendships of convenience.

Men: They are "brothers to the bone" and willing to take a bullet for one another. "Just don't touch my wife" is all they say about it.

Women: Best friends forever today, smearing each other's names to anyone who will listen tomorrow.

And that is the core of the gender issue. You put it so well stating "female behavior is more divisive." I'd also agree with "no excuses" and "excuses are for people who don't take responsibility." Men had to graduate from their primitive thinking to what they are now. Isn't it time for us to do so as well? We don't have to be a slave to every preprogrammed inclining and urge.

Completely disagree.

Maybe you're hanging with the wrong women.

Specializes in Adult Internal Medicine.
If he's so sure he knows the solution to effect change, why wait for us female nurses? There are plenty of male nurses out there. He should rally his troops and do it without us.

I am not attempting to defend the writer of the letter, first and foremost.

If we take for fact that 93:7 is the percentage of female:male nurses (using the AN salary data from 2017). The collective barging power of 7% is rather limited (and that would be assuming he got every male nurse) as I think we could all admit.

So if this disgruntled male nurse decides to take up arms against the establishment and organize some sort of collective barging group, or more likely gets into administration himself to fix the problem, doesn't that just forward the patriarchy? And if he doesn't, he gets blamed for inaction?

How do we as a profession that is dominated by women move forward in keeping the control of the profession in the hands of women? I was shocked to find out last year that out of 5 community hospitals in 10 miles of my practice three of them have CNOs that are male.

I can't speak to the infighting as that hasn't been my experience but it's an industry that draws single parents which puts it at a disadvantage for risking your job on principle.

Specializes in ICU + Infection Prevention.

Excellent article Beth!

Two points:

1. The traditional societal gender attributes you describe as holding back nursing simply scream for nursing to capitalize on its increasing gender diversity and become more confrontational with management to achieve improvements. We should also look at the structure of nursing education and how it may work against improving gender ratios.

2. Men are definitely taught to be competitive with each other.

So if this disgruntled male nurse decides to take up arms against the establishment and organize some sort of collective barging group, or more likely gets into administration himself to fix the problem, doesn't that just forward the patriarchy? And if he doesn't, he gets blamed for inaction?

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I would hope most women would not blame patriarchy if he fairly acquired a job in administration. It's sometimes hard to tell, but I personally would never blame inequality unless I had substantial proof it was true. Say a woman more eligible and more experienced is denied the job and it's given to a man with less experience/credentials, then I'd say "hey maybe this is inequality". Nursing doesn't have to be all women. It shouldn't be all women. I know many caring and compassionate men. If my boyfriend didn't pass out at the sight of blood he'd be an excellent nurse. I have five men in my nursing class. Four of them are amazing with patients and excellent at their jobs as techs and they'd make awesome administrators for change.

Until nurses SPEAK UP and stop being whipping posts and just grumbling about their lot, NOTHING WILL CHANGE. Get some backbone and refuse unsafe staffing, protest to your politicians, make them aware of the situations. The nursing associations are full of managers who owe their souls to the establishment and will not do anything to help you despite years of research showing the need for safer staffing levels. What is wrong is the failure to speak up for yourself and letting things just go on as usual thinking someone else will do the work for you.