Magnet Designation

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Magnet designation exists for three reasons:

1-For an additional PR marketing tool for the hospital.

2-A way for the ANCC to rake in piles of cash.

3-For management to engage in a self-congratulatory circle jerk while staff nurses are overburdened with additional paperwork, the same ****** working conditions, and remain as the facility's go to scapegoat.

Discuss.

Specializes in Med Surg.
I'm just waiting for a community college to have the guts to rigorously analyze the statistical methods employed by the BSN-only lobbyists who insist that BSN-"prepared" graduates are safer nurses. There seems to be some glaring conflicts of interest when the very people who stand to gain the most financially (the "universities") are the ones conducting these studies and lobbying their state boards to require BSN. I have a sneaking suspicion that some of these studies employ selection bias and other statistical fallacies. I wonder if they include BSN bridge program graduates (who have years of nursing experience) in their pool of "BSN grads" when they arrive at their conclusion that BSN grads are safer.

I know nothing about magnet status, other than my hospital doesn't have it, but I had to comment on this. This is such an astute statement. I'm a CC prepared RN working on my BSN and we've spent a lot of time in class about how BSNs are more prepared and what you said never occurred to me. Thanks for giving me something to think about, especially with regard to we bridgers.

Think of the "Pathways to Excellence" program as "Magnet-lite." It was a program started in Texas as a way for hosptials to show that they were good hospitals to work for. ANCC bought them out a few years ago -- probably because they were provided a viable alternative for hospitals looking for some sort of credential. So now, ANCC owns both programs.

Exactly llg! Although I have termed it "Magnet Flunky". I worked for a hospital trying to achieve the "Pathway to Excellence" status. The hospital next door, within the same system, had become a Magnet hospital. My hospital knew things were so off the mark that they would be throwing money away trying for Magnet. "Pathway to Excellence" was the consolation prize for administration. We all knew the nursing care next door was crap (yes, they put lipstick on that pig!). Totally demoralizing that we couldn't even play on the same field as that.

If all that time, money and effort was productively invested in the operation of the institution I can't help but believe there would be a much greater return on investment.

I don't think staff satisfaction is just measured by turnover only. My hospital has us do an annual survey about our job satisfaction, and the scores went down significantly this year and they're concerned about it because it puts our redesignation in jeopardy.

i'm just waiting for a community college to have the guts to rigorously analyze the statistical methods employed by the bsn-only lobbyists who insist that bsn-"prepared" graduates are safer nurses. there seems to be some glaring conflicts of interest when the very people who stand to gain the most financially (the "universities") are the ones conducting these studies and lobbying their state boards to require bsn. i have a sneaking suspicion that some of these studies employ selection bias and other statistical fallacies. i wonder if they include bsn bridge program graduates (who have years of nursing experience) in their pool of "bsn grads" when they arrive at their conclusion that bsn grads are safer.

i am also curious as to if this statement is truly evidence based.:rolleyes:

Specializes in Infectious Disease, Neuro, Research.
I don't think staff satisfaction is just measured by turnover only. My hospital has us do an annual survey about our job satisfaction, and the scores went down significantly this year and they're concerned about it because it puts our redesignation in jeopardy.

That reeeeaaaally depends on your Admin's business philosophy. I've seen a good nurse manager replaced, "in an effort to bring new insights to the floor". Subsequently, most staff were "encouraged" to leave during their annual reviews, after the staff-satisfaction survey was lower yet.

I take small satisfaction in knowing that this mindset resulted in a new DoN, and that the replacement nurse mgr. is no longer working in management at all. Of course, we still have the same senior management, EXCEL and ICARE.

(ICARE= I Can't Always Respect Egnorance. ""E" is for ignorant:rolleyes:, and that's you!", as my wife's ex once proclaimed.)

Specializes in Infectious Disease, Neuro, Research.
I'm just waiting for a community college to have the guts to rigorously analyze the statistical methods employed by the BSN-only lobbyists who insist that BSN-"prepared" graduates are safer nurses. There seems to be some glaring conflicts of interest when the very people who stand to gain the most financially (the "universities") are the ones conducting these studies and lobbying their state boards to require BSN. I have a sneaking suspicion that some of these studies employ selection bias and other statistical fallacies. I wonder if they include BSN bridge program graduates (who have years of nursing experience) in their pool of "BSN grads" when they arrive at their conclusion that BSN grads are safer.

Oh, my, someone is kicking over rocks. Yes, I do believe that is the case in one study, frequently cited.;) Purely industry gossip, but 20 years working in and for nursing service supports my purely anecdotal assessment.

The other consideration is that most CC faculty are "mere" MSNs- where do they have to go if they want a doctorate...? That's riiight. Don't want to whizz in your own Wheaties.

Specializes in OB-Gyn/Primary Care/Ambulatory Leadership.

Interesting food for thought, and I agree with what most everyone says, because I've worked at both types, and if pressed, I wouldn't be able to tell you which one was which if I didn't already know. But in their defense, the two hospitals I've worked at which were magnet were both very well-regarded, and seemed to treat their employees well. And yes, both hospitals are affiliated with the same university (which has both a nursing and a medical school).

Anyone....is a BSN required of me if my hospital is trying for Magnet status. OR is having a bachelor's in any field ok????please let me know where you found your information. I am very eager to hear a reply. Thank you!!

Anyone....is a BSN required of me if my hospital is trying for Magnet status. OR is having a bachelor's in any field ok????please let me know where you found your information. I am very eager to hear a reply. Thank you!!

These are questions to ask your manager.

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