Looking for some advice before making a mistake. - page 5
Okay to start this discussion I would like to first explain and introduce myself. I'm a 22 year old male Firefighter who has been on the job for about a year and a half now. As everyone probably... Read More
Sep 3, '16Joined: Sep '16; Posts: 18; Likes: 20Hello cleback,
Thank you for responding to my post and giving me your advice which is appreciated just like everyone else are. I would like for you and everyone else who has respectively responded to my post understand that for right now I am currently pondering on to get my bachelor degree in nursing so I will have a bachelor degree and then get my experience and while getting my experience and hours, hopefully meet all the requirements to get into a PA school like EMORY would be a choice if possible right now. I believe they are really expensive but for right now they are the only PA school I can find here in Georgia but I will keep looking. From what I understand PA schools don't require a specific bachelor degree but just require a bachelor degree in something and I believe a nursing degree would be a great fit/start for my medical career especially being an AEMT right now.
Sep 3, '16Joined: Sep '16; Posts: 18; Likes: 20Hello Guttercat,
See the reason why I keep switching back and forth is cause I keep reading about the requirements about becoming a PA and how tough it is just to get into the school. Stuff like that really scares me cause I hear people talking about have better then the minimum requirements and still not getting accepted in and Im not going to sit here and tell you I'm the smartest guy out there cause I am far from that but what I can say is that I am a hard worker and I am willing to work for something. I am just nervous that I will not get accepted into PA school no matter how well I do. Sorry for the sob story.
Sep 3, '16Occupation: CDIS Joined: Aug '16; Posts: 71; Likes: 85As I was reading your message, the thought popped into my head that being a PA might be a great choice! Look at it this way, the time will pass any way, and you will then gave a great career. The market for PAs will be huge in upcoming years...
Sep 3, '16Joined: Aug '16; Posts: 89; Likes: 159Here's the thing, anything worth anything takes hard work, sacrifice and taking the good with the bad! Nothing is perfect and YES every now and then there will be pee!
Sep 3, '16Joined: Dec '15; Posts: 12; Likes: 17Maybe I really lucked out here, but I am an RN with no debt. I obtained my RN at community college (about $1.5k per semester) while working as a PCA in a hospital. Thankfully, my experience as a PCA, waitress, and a fortuitous 'connection' at a magnet status hospital is allowing me to start work as an RN with my online RN to BSN tuition fully reimbursed. Yay for no debt!!! It can be done!
Here's a larger issue I see with your predicament. Being a PCA, I bathed patients all day err day and let me tell you I know a thing or two about pee. Being a nurse, I'm still going to have to do bathes and change diapers if I'm doing my job right. If this is a deal breaker for you, becoming a nurse will be hard. If it makes you feel any better though, nobody actually likes working with pee. It's not like all nurses just have a calling that they love bathing people and changing diapers and you are the exception. It's just something that comes with the job. It'd be easy to overcome with the right attitude and then somewhere down the line, maybe you'll find a specialty where you don't deal with it as much. Like in the ER?
Sep 4, '16Joined: Nov '07; Posts: 2; Likes: 1The comments are on here are driving me insane and I feel your fruatration from people giving responses that are unhelpful and misjudging your original point and the important and wise advice you are genuinely seeking and hoping somebody can provide. Im not saying I have the answers and I know it all...but I would really love to talk to you and tell you what I think is the wisest thing to do based on my research and experience throughout my own life. It wont let me private message you. So frustrating. Find me on fb. Hannah Hickerson is my name from Michigan (just moved here from orange county, CA). I care and think i could help you and offer good things to consider. I want you to suceed and learn from my mistakes and my wisdom. Or shoot me some "hot mail"at Hannahhickerson. Im trying not to put my specific emailing address down because i dont want them to detect it on this site and immediately erase it or say i cant provide that info. I provided enough hints that im sure u can figure out how to reach me. Hope to hear from u.
Sep 4, '16Joined: Jul '12; Posts: 85; Likes: 91Quote from italianlifterIn my state, I would recommend going though an associates program first to save money. Most employers in my state will still hire an ADN nurse and encourage a bachelor's degree. I can't say how other states hire. There are some hospitals that will not hire if you don't have a bachelors, so look into the hospitals in your area before you male the decision. If they will hire an associates most make you get a BSN within a certain number of years, but have tuition reimbursement programs.Hello StudentNurse365,
I can't begin to tell you how insightful your post was because it not only made me rethink my degree route but most likely helped me choose my path cause from what I understand a PA works under a doctors scope while a NP is more free. In my eyes that seems more like the job for me since I do not want to have to worry about working under someone to the point that every little thing I do might be wrong while I understand a NP still works under a doctor, I believe they have more freedom compared to a PA (correct me if I am wrong.)
Honestly when I said i did not want to deal with the poop,pee and baths was because I felt like thats all nurses did and yes that was very naive of me but I am glad I had some great posts here explain thats not all nurses do. Of course it will suck like you said dealing with it but at least some point down my career I can advance and hopefully not deal with it as much.
My question for you would be do you recommended me just getting my associates in nursing first and find a job at a hospital and look into some programs they might have that could possibly help me reach my secondary goal of getting my bachelors in nursing? Also can you please explain to me what would be the difference between 2 year nurse vs a 4 year nurse?
Im planning on hopefully attending Gordon State College here in Georgia for my Associates in Nursing cause I think it will be the cheapest route. Correct me if I am wrong but wouldn't the cheaper route be to become a NP other then a PA and no I am not looking to find the easy way out, Im just trying to compare the two. Thanks!!
The difference between an associates degree and a bachelor's degree is the theory. Both programs will teach you the basics of how to be a nurse and educate you enough to pass the NCLEX, but the BSN program has extra classes about nursing theory. In my state the BSN is one more year than the ADN. The community college in my city is now offering a combo ADN-bsn route when you graduate from the cc you have a bsn. If your community collegend does something like that, it might be worth it. You work through the summers and graduate in 2 years with a BSN- I'm not sure of the cost, but it'd be different in your state.
NP vs PA I would just research the difference and the scope of practice for your state. NP'S can practice without a doctor, but I believe that in some states they do still need a MD... I haven't researched every state, I just know a little about my own and what I want to do with it. Your best bet would be to research and shadow both.
Finance wise, from my calculations in my state, the NP is way cheaper. However, PA schooling is brick and mortar, is basically a mini med school, and they don't recommend you work during the program whereas NP school is online and you pick the specialty of NP you desire-FNP ect. [All the NP's our there chime in]
And you can still work as an RN during NP schooling.
Sep 4, '16Joined: May '14; Posts: 112; Likes: 582Quote from Hannah HickersonOka-ay.The comments are on here are driving me insane and I feel your fruatration from people giving responses that are unhelpful and misjudging your original point and the important and wise advice you are genuinely seeking and hoping somebody can provide. Im not saying I have the answers and I know it all...but I would really love to talk to you and tell you what I think is the wisest thing to do based on my research and experience throughout my own life. It wont let me private message you. So frustrating. Find me on fb. Hannah Hickerson is my name from Michigan (just moved here from orange county, CA). I care and think i could help you and offer good things to consider. I want you to suceed and learn from my mistakes and my wisdom. Or shoot me some "hot mail"at Hannahhickerson. Im trying not to put my specific emailing address down because i dont want them to detect it on this site and immediately erase it or say i cant provide that info. I provided enough hints that im sure u can figure out how to reach me. Hope to hear from u.
First of all, many of us understand OP's dilemma and are suggesting different ideas that OPcan look into. OP has even thanked many of us for the advice.
Second- if you have good advice for us all then you should feel free to post it here so that future forum readers can learn from it. No one is here to criticize those with advice unless it is inappropriate, dangerous, or against the rules.
Which brings me to issue 3. AN policies strongly discourage people giving out personal information. It allows people to to find out who youare and if you complain about someone in the future, we will know who you are talking about. It is also really dangerous for both you and OP.
BTW, you may have to post on AN a certain amount of times before you can start PM. I see you have been a long time lurker (I was one too and had trouble with PM when I first started posting ) but you haven't really posted. If you are really hesitant about making your posts public, I believe that others are able to PM you until you figure out the PM issue.
Sep 4, '16Joined: Nov '07; Posts: 2; Likes: 1I was talking about the first several posts. People are RUDE and were rude in their condescending responses to this poster.Last edit by dianah on Sep 4, '16 : Reason: Terms of Service
Sep 4, '16Joined: Jul '10; Posts: 1,925; Likes: 4,312I haven't read all the comments, but wanted to say that paramedics around here don't make much money; neither do firemen. Firemen here DO have excellent retirement benefits, though. Physical therapists here make a lot of money, much more than nurses.
Sep 4, '16Occupation: FNP Specialty: 10 year(s) of experience in Family Medicine, Tele/Cardiac, Camp ; From: US ; Joined: Oct '07; Posts: 590; Likes: 1,126I had some snarky comment in regards to a previous poster, but decided I would rather disengage. Since I can't completely delete the post, here we are.Last edit by SnowShoeRN on Sep 4, '16
Sep 4, '16Occupation: FNP Specialty: 10 year(s) of experience in Family Medicine, Tele/Cardiac, Camp ; From: US ; Joined: Oct '07; Posts: 590; Likes: 1,126Quote from Hannah HickersonIn all seriousness though, because of your previous post I now know where you go to school, where you work, where you're from, your religious preferences, and your friend's names. I also know you're not yet a nurse.I was talking about the first several posts. People are RUDE and were rude in their condescending responses to this poster.
Whether or not you feel like getting into an argument with someone on a public forum is your business, but the suggestion to change your username and not post very specific information about yourself is a good one.Last edit by dianah on Sep 4, '16