Letting off Steam, hope my extinguisher is ready

[BuckyBadgerRN]

OK, this is just my personal rant for the day (maybe week, we'll see) and even though I am probably going to come across as looking petty/catty, I'm going to let it fly anyway. Even if noone is willing to agree with me here, I think SOME nurses out there, if not on this forum may nod their heads in agreement.

I am an RN, 18 mos out of school. I am gainfully employed as an RN, and for that I am grateful, please do not think otherwise. It is NOT in my "dream" area of nursing, but with the employment opportunities as they are, I am happy to have it.

I also have stayed, in a limited schedule, the position in healthcare that I have done for the previous 24 years. It is in this position that I had the duty of making several phone calls today, to a variety of entities. The first FOUR calls that I made today, after pushing 9 different prompts, all got me to various phone centers in the Philipines. All US companies that have outsourced jobs that were once done in the States to laborers in the Philapines. And then, as I bop around AN, I see post after post started by nurses who have been educated in the Philipines wanting to know the US state that will license them the fastest once they have failed the NCLEX 3 times in their first State of choice, or which ones will overlook that they have not been educated to the standard that most US nurses are. This frustrates the bejeebers out of me that not only are American jobs being sent overseas, overseas nurses are trying desperately to fill the nursing jobs here that so many of us would like to fill.

Yes, I realize that this makes me the meanie in the sandbox and that is certainly anyone's right to think that. But it is my right to feel aggravated as heck that this goes on and if I'm the only one bothered by it, so be it, but somehow I doubt that I am.

[BlueDevil,DNP, DNP, RN]

Excellent post PRICHARILLAisMISSED. My company outsources all of our radiology. None of our films are read in the US. They are all read in India. I occasionally have patients complain that they want their film read by an "American" trained radiologist. Why the heck they care about this I have no idea, since India has some of the best trained physicians in the world, lol (and it isn't as though they have to speak to the radiologist and -gasp- deal with an accent ). But Ok, if that is what you want. Of course, you will pay 4X and much and wait 3X as long for the result, and you will have to find one and refer yourself because we are not contracted with a single local radiologist (except for interventionalists). So here's the yellow pages, go for it. People are blinded by their xenophobia, jingoism and prejudice.

[nursel56]

Yes, and what I'm trying to say is that I could post just as many links to posts from an immigration forum that I'm a member of r/t foreign RNs who end up in the US and need help figuring our licensing etc. because they happened to marry an American citizen. None of your links would suggest otherwise -- that the OPs somehow managed to secure a non-existent visa pathway into the US solely in order to secure a job that would otherwise have been given to an American citizen.

It seems you're trying to frame this as an argument when it isn't. My only intention with the links was to tell you where I read that many new grads from foreign schools had their dreams of working here crushed. I have no expertise in H1 Visas or sponsoring rules, so I thought those forums could supply the details that I don't have.

[Ntheboat2]

I understand. It's hard. I was born in my city and have lived my whole life in my city and worked hard to gain knowledge and experience in nursing. I'm struggling trying to make ends meet with a part-time position and a per diem. I have a family. Every organization when filling out an application asks what race. I know they have to try to meet hiring so many minorities. I know for a fact that they've given jobs to minorities over me becuase they need to meet certain amount for regulation/government. That is racist toward me. Anybody would feel the same if your home country was giving away jobs to those coming from another country before their own citizens. It's like okay then I guess for every new college grad that immigrates to US one citizen from US shouldn't have to move to another country because we're being displaced.

Every time I fill out an application and put down that I'm a "white female" I wonder if I'm instantly disqualifying myself because they need a male or someone from a different ethnic background. It's crazy. I know I have the option not to answer, but I'd rather not waste my time being sent on interviews to places where they need a minority and a white female is not a minority in nursing. It's really unsettling when you personally know people you went to school with who are bordering on incompetent, but they are employed simply because they fit into the right box.

[PRICHARILLAisMISSED]

Thanks for reading it, Bluedevil,DNP. I just wanted everyone to understand that some companies have little choice but to outsource some of their services. The way businesses are taxed today, it is almost suicidal for the corporation not to outsource something. And YES, businesses are taxed to high heaven. And President Obama is about to make it even tougher on them. This will lead to more outsourcing for not just wider profit margins, but also for survival in many cases. The Affordable Health Insurance act (Obamacare), while it has its good components, is going to DEVASTATE many businesses bottom lines. Noble as the intention behind it is... So outsourcing is going to be the SAVIOR of many Americans who are CURRENTLY employed. This must be balanced against The jobs that may not be had by job seekers.