Leaving tasks for the next shift

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On my unit it's policy that we need to have at least 2 peripheral IVs.

During my shift last night, I had a pt with a dialysis fistula thus only 1 arm. He originally had 2 IVs at the beginning of my shift but during my initial assessment, one of them was leaking when I tried to flush it so I took it out and tried to put in another one. I wasn't confident in my ability to put another in because his veins looked really beat up so I brought another nurse in. We both tried with no success. The doctor came in to attempt to put an IV in with an ultrasound and the pt responded by yelling at the doctor and refusing any more sticks. The pt was not receiving anything IV so the doctor verbally informed me he was ok with only 1 IV.

Later during my shift, I get an admission who also had a left arm fistula. The ED only was able to put one IV in. Once again, I had another nurse look with me and we both tried and didn't succeed. This patient also started yelling at us for our failed attempts. I told the doctor about the access issues and she said as long as we don't need to give anything IV she was ok with it as well.

When day shift arrived, I let the oncoming nurse know that I wasn't able to get a second IV in both my pt's but there were no plans for infusions and the doctors were okay with only one.

Despite these tasks, all my labs were drawn, electrolytes repleted, baths done, and all that other good stuff. I normally never leave these kinds of tasks for other people, but both patients were to the point of verbally abusing out staff and refusing our care. I felt bad and kind of a push over for not continuing to attempt to put in an IV despite the patient's complaints.

How do you overcome patients like this? Is it okay to leave things for the next shift?

I would consult leadership/risk management. A policy is not a law or a hard stop in most cases. They are there for a reason, but mot meant to replace critical thinking. All you did in trying to abide by your policy is shred the few vessels this patient had left that radiology could have used later for better access. Sometimes it makes sense to just work with one and save the other veins for when that one goes...

I came from pedi icu where best practice is 2 IVs but we can also stick 4 limbs and sometimes a scalp, we also kept IVs in for weeks if they were still working. Even then, if the patient wasn't on drips, and stablish, I wouldn't risk wasting a vein I might need later just to have a "just in case" IV.

If pt on pressers, insulin drip, triple abx, or ppn with incompatible meds, yes you need that IV and maybe a cvc.

Back to the point if you choose not to follow policy, document the indication for why. Generally by addressing the policy you've covered yourself.

As for leaving work for the next shift... nursing is a 24 hour job for a reason. The only thing you should be staying for is a rapid response or code. Beyond That, it's their patient now... in 12 hours they'll be handing them back along with anything they didn't get done. Nature of the beast.

Nursing is a 24/7 job, things get passed on and there is no reason treason feel guilty for it! If you and other nurses were not able to get a line in then they most likely have bad access and probably need a PICC (if they needed anything IV). There is nothing you can do about that. Both patients were screaming too, you legally can't hold them down and put IVs in, that'd be awful and barbaric. You did what you could, don't be so hard on yourself!

That's really nice of you to be so concerned but things happen. If you are able to complete tasks and not leaving them for the next shift that's great but if not than they will have to get over it. Nothing is perfect or planned in this field.

Nursing is a 24 hour job and as long as you did everything possible to get your job done (even if your attempts were not successful) you should have a clear conscience. There are often more resources during the day shift.

Specializes in Psych ICU, addictions.

A lot of facilities frown on having to pay out overtime, so the expectation is that there will be tasks left for the next shift to pick up on. This doesn't mean you can use that as license to slack and not do the things you could/should have gotten done, even if it was within the last hour of your shift.

Specializes in Emergency, Telemetry, Transplant.

As someone else said, you really did not leave something for the next shift in this scenario. Pt said no more sticks, doc said 2nd line isn't necessary. Chart both of those things, and it should not be a further issue. Otherwise some things are fine to leave for the next shift, emergent things need to be completed right away. It would take too long to write an exhaustive list of tasks that fall into each category.

As for 2 IVs--is this a written policy of the unit? Or is it just "the way we always do it?" With each stick, venous access becomes more difficult going forward--look at how difficult it can be to get IV access on a dialysis pt that has been stuck a million times. I cannot see the logic in having 2 lines "just in case" for a pt who otherwise has no IV meds. I would think this might be a good project to collect research on published recommendations for how many lines pts. need in the ICU setting, and then seeing if you can help to work on getting the policy changed.

Specializes in Pedi.

Sorry, but does anyone else think this is a dumb policy? Patients who aren't ordered for anythign IV need 2 IVs just in case?

Also, since the patient refused further sticks and the MD agreed that 1 IV was fine, you didn't leave anything for the next shift. If I was a patient on your unit and on no IV meds, I'd refuse 2 IVs too.

Sorry, but does anyone else think this is a dumb policy? Patients who aren't ordered for anythign IV need 2 IVs just in case?

Also, since the patient refused further sticks and the MD agreed that 1 IV was fine, you didn't leave anything for the next shift. If I was a patient on your unit and on no IV meds, I'd refuse 2 IVs too.

It's not really a dumb policy in the icu. If your patient is in the icu, they are deemed critical. That means you need access just in case. We have our share of stable patients, and usually they transfer out quickly, but anything can happen at any time. You can have that post ztPA patient who is required to be in the icu for 24 hours and not have anything IV, all of the sudden have a hemorrhagic conversion at hour 20 and decline rapidly. You need access. It's better to have that access prior to TPA as you can't stick them for 24 hours post TPA.

I've seen too many patients that I thought were completely stable only to go in for my next assessment and completely decline.

Again, policy doesn't replace critical thinking. Before starting tpa.... yes you need an extra line... pt starts to look iffy on you see if you can pop in an extra.... oh refuses additional stick... after that if you stick them you've committed battery... if your pt is on vasoirritant meds and you know the IV won't make it more than a day or two... you'd better have a backup as that line is going to go bad sometime around when your patient goes into septic shock.

Who here loves starting lines in a code?

Just having an ICU bed shouldn't buy you two IVs. Think it through. Because is not a rational

Specializes in Surgical, Home Infusions, HVU, PCU, Neuro.

A VO from the Dr. saying notification of pt having 1 IV was received and is ok with the 1 access site relieves you of not following "policy" and those caring for the pt after you as long as the pt condition permits. Therefore there was not anything left from your shift to carry over to the next as far as this senerio goes. The pt care continues after the completion of your shift, just as the pts care continues at the completion of the staffs shift you are relieving.

Specializes in Emergency, Telemetry, Transplant.
Sorry, but does anyone else think this is a dumb policy?

Yes. Very.

I'm still interested to know if this is the written policy or just "how we always do it." Either way, it needs to be looked at and changed, especially for people not getting IV meds.

Specializes in ED, Pedi Vasc access, Paramedic serving 6 towns.

I have to ask what floor do you work on and what is the reason behind having two IVs, especially if the patient doesn't really need two? You are only decreasing your chances of getting new IVs in when those infiltrate and increasing the chance of infection!

Annie

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