Learning Disabled Students

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dmarie (GA)

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Give me a break.

HeartsOpenWide, RN

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Specializes in Ante-Intra-Postpartum, Post Gyne.

I am merely showing that I can see why some nursing students would be upset at those that are receiving additional time, etc.

Any why are they upset because it is "not fair that they get more time!" pout pout. Life isn't fair, because if it was people would not have learning disabilities. Being unfair would be to deprive these people from their accommodations (like extra time). There is no reason some one should be denied a college degree (yes nursing included) because they have a learning disability. Until you (I use this word as a general term meaning any one) have a learning disability of some kind to deal with don't talk to be about what is not fair.

smk1, LPN

2,195 Posts

See, and my point is that it doesn't matter what anyone else is doing. Do your own work and worry about your own self. The licensing process will take care of those who can't cut it.

This is how I feel as well usually.

Specializes in Acute Care Psych, DNP Student.

What a sad, sad thread this has been for those who have ever had to use campus accommodations.

LydiaNN

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Specializes in Public Health, DEI.

I don't have any ADA qualifying conditions; however, my son does. I get to sick to death of the ''that's not fair'' remarks that I hear. I always remember my Mom telling me, anytime that I whined to her about some injustice or the other, that ''life isn't fair''. Boy howdy, it turns out that she was right about that one!

dmarie (GA)

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multicollinarity, it sounds like you've been through a great deal and I can't help but be impressed with your determination and courage. I applaud you for working hard to realize your dream.

I disagree with your comment that this is a sad thread however, because in my view, it's helped to bring the subject to light with honest discussion.

Those of us without LD or with undiagnosed LD, sweating and struggling through nursing school without the use of a calculator (or any other special accommodation), it can be frustrating to watch other students use a calculator if we don't understand the specifics about why they are allowed these accommodations.

Frankly, I don't understand why we ALL are not allowed to use a calculator when the reality is that we can use one on the floor. But as it has been pointed out in this thread, I should leave these questions and solutions to the experts.

I'm not a nosey student --- but as one of my previous posts describes, I was teamed up with a student during clinical and it was explained to me by my clinical instructor that there existed a learning curve, which ultimately left me doing most of the work and extremely frustrated. Before this incident, I didn't pay much attention to anyone else in the class during exam time as I'm usually so focused on my own exam.

Someone else pointed out in a previous post that students should worry about themselves and let the nursing school process and NCLEX take care of the rest. I agree.

Student compassion or dedication to the field of nursing was never in question, for me atleast. Obviously, if a student chooses to take on this particular field, they have huge amounts of compassion, LD or not.

Thank you to all of the LD folks who so patiently helped to educate those of us non-LD folks on this particular subject throughout the course of this informative thread.

Specializes in Cardiac.
Those of us without LD or with undiagnosed LD, sweating and struggling through nursing school without the use of a calculator (or any other special accommodation), it can be frustrating to watch other students use a calculator if we don't understand the specifics about why they are allowed these accommodations.

Frankly, I don't understand why we ALL are not allowed to use a calculator when the reality is that we can use one on the floor. But as it has been pointed out in this thread, I should leave these questions and solutions to the experts.

Sigh.....

I really want to leave my post at one word, I really do. But I just don't think you really get it. Are or were you seriously sweating without the use of a calculator? Did you really find someone else's use of a calculator unfair or frustrating? Really?

Do you know, I bet people with LD find the world frustrating. I bet they find having to live with a LD frustrating. I bet they may find THAT unfair.

If I had to choose, I'd choose not to have a LD, rather than have a LD and receive special accommodations.

Lucky for me I didn't have to choose.

As for why you have to learn how to do the math rather than rely on a calculator, well, I think the theory behind that is obvious.

Many, many times in real world nursing, I have to actually do math, albeit simple math, on the fly. I can't ask the physician to please stop the procedure so that I can run and get a calculator. Or, please give me some time to figure out how to calculate this dosage.

Sheesh!

Specializes in Critical Care, Pediatrics, Geriatrics.

we have always been allowed to use a calculator in class, but we do have some students with learning disabilities that get extra time on their tests. They take their tests in private rooms at the student services building. I didn't think it was fair at first either, but like someone said...it's really none of my business. I do however have an opinion about some of the practices in regards to students with disabilities...their comes a point in time when every reasonable accomodation has been made and you have an LD student who simply can't do the work. I think that the staff/faculty are afraid to act upon that and dismiss the student from the program because of all the ADA guidelines/laws etc. And in the end, the only person who suffers is the LD student who wastes their time, money, and energy. They may have all the heart in the world, but unfortunately some individual's problems are too complex for the nursing world. It is this I have a problem with, not LD students in general who simply need some extra time for a written test or a private room.

Specializes in Acute Care Psych, DNP Student.

I don't know about the calculator issue. I only had extended time on exams, and there in class. I guess I don't know about the realities of those who use a calculator on nursing math exams...since it's not my issue. I guess I just figure those in charge who know more than I do - that they know what they are doing with these students. I can't underestand everything, so I'll keep my nose out of it.

dmarie (GA)

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cardiacRN2006: I really want to leave my post at one word, I really do. But I just don't think you really get it. Are or were you seriously sweating without the use of a calculator? Did you really find someone else's use of a calculator unfair or frustrating? Really?

Yes! :) It makes me extremely nervous when I have to take a math exam and pass it with 100% accuracy without the use of a calculator. I would love the use of a calculator on a test. But I'm not allowed to use one.

cardiacRN2006: As for why you have to learn how to do the math rather than rely on a calculator, well, I think the theory behind that is obvious.

I agree! :)

cardiacRN2006: Many, many times in real world nursing, I have to actually do math, albeit simple math, on the fly. I can't ask the physician to please stop the procedure so that I can run and get a calculator. Or, please give me some time to figure out how to calculate this dosage.

My point exactly! :)

Specializes in Acute Care Psych, DNP Student.

I do hope you are beginning to understand that taking an exam is different than performing in the work world.

dmarie (GA)

164 Posts

asoldierswife05: I do however have an opinion about some of the practices in regards to students with disabilities...their comes a point in time when every reasonable accomodation has been made and you have an LD student who simply can't do the work. I think that the staff/faculty are afraid to act upon that and dismiss the student from the program because of all the ADA guidelines/laws etc. And in the end, the only person who suffers is the LD student who wastes their time, money, and energy. They may have all the heart in the world, but unfortunately some individual's problems are too complex for the nursing world. It is this I have a problem with, not LD students in general who simply need some extra time for a written test or a private room.

EXACTLY my point. :)

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