I'm sick to my eyeballs of incompetent agency nurses. - page 7
:angryfire I am sick and tired of having to work with incompetent agency nurses. Ones that have no clue what to do but take the shift anyway because it's money. I'm sick of having to teach... Read More
Nov 23, '05Quote from bulletproofbarbI would personally like to congratulate you in your ability to assist in the resolution of the nursing shortage. How will others view "us" as a profession or even dare to endeaver to succeed in the field of nursing with fears of outside hostility by others in "our" profession? I feel that this posting enables other professions to see our profession as "troubled" and perhaps as cut throat. I have always carried the thought that our objective is in the business of teaching, "caring", influencing and accentuating the positive. What are you doing in a caring profession when it is obvious YOU DON'T CARE?:angryfire
I am sick and tired of having to work with incompetent agency nurses. Ones that have no clue what to do but take the shift anyway because it's money.
I'm sick of having to teach them stuff, I am not there to teach them, I am happy to teach our own nurses but not agency nurses. If they feel they are suitable enough for agency, then it is their responsibility to make sure they have the skills not mine.
I'm sick of having to pick up the pieces and listen to complaints from relatives about them. I have had a gutful.
I'd rather work shortstaffed that watch someone do the bear minimum or nothing yet getting paid better. It really irritates me.
I hate it.I have had a gutful. I am ready to crack up.
I think that standards to become an agency nurse need to be raised. I've recently bumped into someone who has been out of the hospital system for 7 years and has come back through agency. She ended up on our ward and couldn't cope. Tonights idiot didn't know he had to empty the catheter bag of the bladderwashout and it burst. Considering they hold 4 litres, you can imagine the mess. He didn't know how to get a patient ready for theatre and a patient who was in pain was told by him to wait for another 2 hours until the medication was due again. Didn't know how to do a NJJ feed. It's appauling.
So I spoke to the manager who said he'd make a note to say he wasn't suitable, but I know from past experience it won't happen.
Then the agency nurse got offended when I told him he shouldn't take placements on a surgical ward if he doesn't normally work surgical. He said he worked medical. I don't bloody care if he is offended, that is his problem not mine.
Nov 23, '05Quote from MulanI'm in So Cal and I just DNR'd myself from a scary place. I've done it before due to poor staffers or charge nurses that would rant and scream. After a few years I usually venture back and find the situation has improved.That happened to me, I haven't been back since.
Sometimes when I read your posts I wonder if we are in the same place, or if the same type of things just happen everywhere.
I am ALWAYS assigned the most difficult patient, the PITA call light jockey with the annoying family members etc. and rarely get a CNA. Mostly I see looks of sympathy on the staffers faces!
Nov 23, '05from MY observation and experience, this whole agency vs staff nurse issue boils down to one thing.....jealousy. of course this is not true of everyone, but usually it is very evident when the staff nurses sit around whining about how much money the agency nurses make and yada yada yada. I work with a charge nurse now who HATES all agency nurses, no matter how good they are, she does not like the fact that they make 15-20$ more an hour than she does. so what does she do? you guessed it. she dumps on them big time. and when you work in ER, being given 4-5 ICU/TRAUMA patients is recipe for disaster. we have had agency nurses refuse to work with this charge nurse or they just don't come back period. I am very helpful to all agency because I have nothing to gain by being hateful and vindictive. I work agency from time to time and usually I do just fine. there are some agency nurses that come to our ER that work 10x's better than the staff so I appreciate whatever good help we can get. unfortunately hospitals are so desperate that you don't know what you are getting until you get it and I don't think it's going to change anytime soon.
Nov 23, '05This has been a very interesting thread...and a little scary. I work agency as a Nursing Assistant, and while I'm finishing up my RN, I will be working there as an LPN. I do think that my agency has a good plan though, new grads are very restricted, and we get regular report cards from the regular staff.
Anyway, just one thing I noticed is that there's a big to-do about agency nurses making more than the staff nurses. I don't know if this applies everywhere, but the agency I work for pays more, but doesn't offer ANY benefits. By the time I pay for my health insurance, it about equals out to the hospital pay, and I don't get any paid vacations, or disability or anything. If you don't work, you don't get paid, no matter what the reason. Just my little addition...carry on...
Ps. Just one more thing...if there is even a possibility of someone going to a certain site, floor, etc. They have a training and orientation day-obviously things come up and things get missed, but at least we're not left to our own devices. If we haven't trained somewhere, then we don't go there. Saves from adding to the stress of an already stressed out environment.Last edit by MellyOne on Nov 23, '05
Nov 23, '05[quote=MellyOne
Anyway, just one thing I noticed is that there's a big to-do about agency nurses making more than the staff nurses. I don't know if this applies everywhere, but the agency I work for pays more, but doesn't offer ANY benefits. By the time I pay for my health insurance, it about equals out to the hospital pay, and I don't get any paid vacations, or disability or anything. If you don't work, you don't get paid, no matter what the reason. Just my little addition...carry on...[/quote]
You're right about that. I was only making $28 an hour as an RN working agency, used to be $26. The hospital paid its own float staff more per hour than the agency did working at the same place.
Nov 23, '05I don't get why people react with such defensiveness to a post like this. She just said she doesn't like working with INCOMPETENT agency nurses. Do any of you? I don't. If you're competent, she is not talking about you. I haven't seen a single poster than says they don't appreciate help from well trained agency nurses. By the same token, I don't get upset that caroladybelle says she's sick of incompetent staff nurses. I'm confident that doesn't apply to me, so I don't feel the need to flame her post.
Nov 23, '05Quote from DusktilDawnYes and I just singled it out again. This is not okay. Attitudes like this are disrespectful and have no place on the job.You conveniently left out the entire first paragraph of my post: You singled out the first sentence only:
"Unfortunately I have seen the "lazy" and one of the worst ones I encountered happened to be male."
Nov 23, '05Hot topic, to be sure. Just asking everyone to keep his or her cool and maybe, step away, think and then send any posts we have before posting them. Take just a few minutes to be sure what you say is what you mean----and that you refrain from flaming others in doing so. Like Wolfie says, it's ok to disagree, as long as we are respectful when we are doing it!
Nov 23, '05Quote from bloviateJust as disrespectful and biased as those that claim females are catty or that nurses eat their young.Personally, I doubt it about that being an honest observation. I think it was a biased & disrespectful observation. I said what I meant to say and I stand by it.
Nov 23, '05I Had A Pretty Good Run At A Hospital Who Used Me In Ccu,telemetry, Onc, Er And Heck I Even Worked Med Surg For Them. The Nursing Director Would Call Me At Home. My Pays Were Over 50 Hours A Week. Then Their Finances Became A Huge Issue,and Out The Door We All Went. I Was The Last To Go. In Over One Year Never A Complaint. Now While I Was There,seen Quite A Few Incompetent Agency Nurses, Eventially They Were Reported To Our Agency And Not Allowed Back. I Think Some Of Them Float From Agency To Agency, Leave When Something Bad Happens To Protect Their License. No One Seems To Get These Folks Off The Market, They Just Let Them Loose.
Nov 23, '05Quote from bloviateWell, then we're in agreement.The intent here is to point out that it's not okay to disrespect people and certainly not okay to do it on the basis of race sex religion etc etc.
Nov 23, '05That's alright, I am tired of coming in to work an agency shift, and have to deal with family members who are pissed at the staff, and take it out on me. I love being a nurse, so much so, that I am continueing my education as a nurse, and also teach at the local college. I am tired of dealing with "Refrigerator" or "Vacation" Nurses, who are only there to pick up their paycheck so they can buy that new fridge or pay for the next vacation. I see these kinds of nurses both as staff and agency. Both are totally useless. First to complain about their workload, last to lend a hand when everything is hitting the fan.
Ah, got to love it!
Nov 24, '05I worked as an agency nurse for three years. Not once has anyone ever treated me rudely or acted as if I am incompetent. They were always ready to help me in any way they could. So what if they are new to the floor. Remember that you were once a new nurse on a floor and asked questions. Did anyone treat you rudely or tell you how incompetent you were? Probably not. A good nurse is one that offers help wherever needed,even if it is another nurse. Remember everyone starts somewhere and may not know everything. You should be grateful that you had help. If not you would be complaining about being short staffed. A good nurse is one that has compassion and is willing to help others, be it a patient or staff member. Maybe you should reflect on the time you were a new grad and thrown onto a floor for the first time. Wasn't it new? Didn't you have lots of questions? Didn't someone offer you help and answered your questions?