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I am being advised that when I graduate I can walk right into a RN position. Why am I seeing that I may have to hound or beg :bow: the HR for a position? I feel that the more you jump, hoot and holler in HR face, the more they laugh and get their thrills of saying "nothing yet, sorry". Maybe NM should be taken out of the picture all together. Why can't the director of nursing do all the hiring like in the old days. To me it is crazy to believe that I will have to beg for a RN position. Am I being ignorant about some fact here in nursing?

If this is so, then I will have a professional do my resume, betcha dollar bottom I will. Now, I am scared of paying all this money for a degree and possibly may have to look at begging for a job. No way not me!!!!!:down: Thumbs down on that.

Specializes in Telemetry & Obs.
She said the best thing I can do is stand out as a student and make a good impession on the units when I do my clinicals and I for sure intend to do that anyway.

Absolutely!! I always say when you're at clinicals you're at a job interview. :)

Specializes in Emergency Dept. Trauma. Pediatrics.

Wow I guess I should have read the whole thread first, I am a tad shocked, not sure what happen to the days of being humble, or having a little humility. It's important for people to stand strong and be confident, it is also important to understand your place in the chain and know when to ask questions and when to shut up and listen. I can't imagine ANY nurse fresh out of college has the knowledge it will take to be a good nurse right away. If that was the case their would be no need for orientation periods. We would get our Lic and start being on our own. No one should ever think they are above learning new things, IMO.

Specializes in Emergency Dept. Trauma. Pediatrics.
Absolutely!! I always say when you're at clinicals you're at a job interview. :)

Thank You, that is what I plan to do. After all, why would anyone want me in their unit if I was a PITA non compliant student during my clinicals that was lazy, not self motivated and complained the whole time and, was a know it all?? If I was a Nurse or higher (not sure of the postiions) on a floor and had a student like that, I would be chatting with my co workers saying NEGATIVE on that person coming here.

OP, in life, there will always be someone who is smarter than you, and more qualified than you, and who went to a better school than you, and who gets hired instead of you.

Its a big world, and you just need a little time in it to understand the way things are gonna be. It appears you haven't learned yet. Thats OK, it takes time. :wink2:

Specializes in acute rehab, med surg, LTC, peds, home c.
I am not beating up the nurse manager, thank you very much for you insensitivity, and false accusation!! I am not that type of a person, and before you go accusing me, sounds like you are a professional at business hiring. I was not iquiring about your expertise perhaps in another are than nursing. Yes, maybe they NM ought to take a pay cut as well, it does not take 6 MN (one for each floor) to hire nurses to fill a hospital. Not more than it takes to hire someone with 3 years experience for the ICU compared to a new graduate, becuase they are training us really well here at the university, and there are a lot of us who are a lot more smarter than some nurses in the hospital now. Yes, that is right, we are being taught and are getting hands on the most updated nursing concepts and training there is. So, take that to your NM.

We are good trained nurses while we are in college, and if anybody gives me a hard time as a new grad, I call that bullying, and will file a harassment law suit. :yeah: Trust me!!!

MN make too much money!!!!!

You seem a little hypersensitive. I didn't think she was accusing you of assaulting anybody. Its a good thing you are "more smarter" than some of us nurses at the hospital. With your brains and social intelligence you will be a real asset anywhere you work.

Specializes in acute rehab, med surg, LTC, peds, home c.

Someone is both ignorant and arrogant. Pride goeth before a fall, I only wish I could be there to see it. This type of attitude will get you eaten alive in the workplace.

I am not beating up the nurse manager, thank you very much for you insensitivity, and false accusation!! I am not that type of a person, and before you go accusing me, sounds like you are a professional at business hiring. I was not iquiring about your expertise perhaps in another are than nursing. Yes, maybe they NM ought to take a pay cut as well, it does not take 6 MN (one for each floor) to hire nurses to fill a hospital. Not more than it takes to hire someone with 3 years experience for the ICU compared to a new graduate, becuase they are training us really well here at the university, and there are a lot of us who are a lot more smarter than some nurses in the hospital now. Yes, that is right, we are being taught and are getting hands on the most updated nursing concepts and training there is. So, take that to your NM.

We are good trained nurses while we are in college, and if anybody gives me a hard time as a new grad, I call that bullying, and will file a harassment law suit. :yeah: Trust me!!!

MN make too much money!!!!!

you may want to brush up on your english. "a lot more smarter" ???? 8th grade english 101........

check this out

http://www.sonoma.edu/users/n/nolan/n312/benner.htm

At one time I knew to approximate times to move from one phase to another.

Thanks for posting this. As a new grad on my first job, I've been looking at it a lot lately. It helps me to be more realistic about my goals and to appreciate the transitions that the veteran nurses have already made -- as well as the time and experience it took to make them.

Well, so what. I believe in being perfect the first time. And don't tell me that there is everything I should learn from you. It goes both ways, there will be things experienced nurses will learn from new grads, and that goes for nurse managers as well.

Research where it says that 4 year is considered a professions degree versus a 2 yr RN. I did not say that I had a problem with a 2 yr, now did I? No I did not!! You are wrong for saying that I said that in front of everybody, and you own me an apology. I have a right to speak my peace on this web site just as much as anyone. And I do not have to bandwagon. 2 year RN do not graduate with the full scope of practice as a 4 year, oh yes, wait a minute, a 4 year where I go leads right into the masters and Phd and nurse practitioner, and in this 4 year program we nursing students are being trained at a higher skill level. So, don't tell me that a 2 yr RN will not have to step aside ( it will be done becuase 4 yr students are trained in leadership skills) and let the 4 yr do it, because the 4 yr RN will have more training , a larger scope of practice say for instance in health promotion etc....... We also learn more on the theory behind nursing practice, and excuse me, but that is so very important to every nursing skill provided to any patient. Do you think that a doctor makes decisions just because? No, a doctors decision is based of scientific as well.

The advantages to the BSN education are a broader educational base in the general studies, which is for decision making, and if the nurse is planning further education--which I am planning on doing. Another another is the additional courses, which allow the BSN RN opportunities for access to employment positions often not available to RNs with an ADN education. Additionally, some health care facilities and systems are requiring or at least preferring that all RNs in a supervisory position have a BSN or higher degree. Therefore, the BSN RN has a grearter opportunity to advance their career than an ADN RN.

So, unless you want to tell all my instructors who have Phd in nursing, you will get a big suprise :D

Yea, let's keep this "real" and peaceful, I am not attacking anybody, and I refuse to bandwagon with a few 2 yr RN who are not as educated as me in nursing.

When I graduate, if it comes between me as a 4 yr RN and a 2 yr RN, yea, that is right , I will get the job.

Specializes in Acute Care Psych, DNP Student.

What a hoot. This thread is

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and

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at the same time.

Why what kind of a workplace do you work in? A place where there is a lot of burned out nurses, a place that is short staffed etc.......

I can speak for a lot of nursing students all across the country, of all cultures!!!!!! who are smarter than a lot of the nurses in the hospitals today. Teaching is not like it used to be. Well, there are even some nurses who are working in the hospitals who never took Pharmacology.

There are nurses working in the hospital who never were required to do a research paper. Yea, RESEARCH!!!

Hey, the world of nursing being trained is changing out here. Do not bash confident graduating nursing students, they are smart and will land lots of positions, and will be pushing out the 2 yr positions.

Just because we are coming out after you, it only means we are fresh and trained for whatever, like just about everything. Yea, there might be a first time for a certain type of medical incident to experience, but that is for every nurse, no nurse before me has experienced it all, but I guess you seem to think so.

Tell me one thing that I can expect not to know when I start my first day as a new graduate nurse?

:chuckle

How many medical errors have you made in you nursing profession? Tell us all that.

How many time have you called off from work sick and it was a lie, and knowing you were creating a hardship on your fellow nurses, and there were people who needed you.

How many time have you lied on a nurse report?

Did you score 100% in your medication calculations? I do all the time. Do you?

No, of course you don't, and that leads to nurses making med errors, FACT!!!

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