Everyone is so secretive about pay? New nurse and I have no idea the average pay

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countrygurl89

32 Posts

I'm in central MN. Our hospital starts all BSN nurses out at $29.78 regardless if there new grad or not. MSN nurses start at around $31. Of course these are just the minimums and you can be started out at more based on experience and what-not. I think our clinics in the area start at around $22-$25 but not sure since those minimums are never shown on the job descriptions that are posted.

froggg123

82 Posts

Specializes in FNP.

glassdoor.com is also a good site, this even gives you interview hints and what current employees think of the job.

SlyFoxRN, BSN, RN

1 Article; 137 Posts

I'm in central MN. Our hospital starts all BSN nurses out at $29.78 regardless if there new grad or not. MSN nurses start at around $31. Of course these are just the minimums and you can be started out at more based on experience and what-not. I think our clinics in the area start at around $22-$25 but not sure since those minimums are never shown on the job descriptions that are posted.

NPs make $1.22 more than RNs there?????

That's insane.

slc1984

81 Posts

I think you can have a masters in nursing without being an NP... but maybe I'm wrong and that is what she is saying?!? If so, then yes, that is insane!

Woodenpug, BSN

734 Posts

Specializes in MPCU.

Here's the data for El paso, Tx

El Paso, TX - May 2012 OES Metropolitan and Nonmetropolitan Area Occupational Employment and Wage Estimates

the occupation code is 29-1141

It keeps getting harder to find the info you want, but the United States Department of labor likely has the most accurate information.

green34

444 Posts

I think it has to do with a weird formula. Like they have to verify your previous experience and working as X counts towards this but working as Y means you get that. Plus it's usually HR that figures that sutff out around here.

green34

444 Posts

Schools around here offer NP MSN programs, CNS programs, leadership MSN, and educator MSN programs.

TBlase

54 Posts

Despite all of the above comments to the contrary: ignore them, all. Everywhere you may go to work, everyone knows how much everyone else makes. From the bottom to the top. It's just a game people play: 'none of your business', and etc. Most places even have policies that asking another employee their pay rate is cause to be fired. The juiciest topic in every workplace is who gets paid what. Daily. This is all nonsense. More of the puritanical hypocritical American way of life, is all. Yawn.

BrandonLPN, LPN

3,358 Posts

Why would I tell someone I work with what I make? That's my personal business.

I think talking about how much one makes varies strongly among different cultural and/or socioeconomic groups.

Among people i hang out with and in all my former jobs, talking about how much you make or asking someone how much they make was considered perfectly acceptable small talk. I was honestly surprised to discover that some people consider that rude.

It's kind of like discussing politics in casual conversation, some people consider it fine, others consider it impolite.

I just heard a segment on NPR about how women make less than men and this disparity might be alleviated if there were more transparency from corporations. Yes it's taboo for us to talk about salary but that's a cultural thing that may change. I'm all for it especially if we want to make healthcare more cost effective. It would be helpful to know value for cost.

I believe the other MN poster was referring to MSN-prepared bedside nurses? NPs up here make great money...

bagladyrn, RN

2,286 Posts

Specializes in OB.

A couple of possible reasons here:

Some places of employment actually have rules forbidding employees to discuss their pay with other employees. Yes, it can be a firing offense in a "right to work" state.

In most cases where two individuals discuss their pay, one is going to end up feeling bad or angry that they do not make as much as the other for what they perceive as the same or similar job.

As others have noted, many of us were raised to believe it is crass to discuss actual income figures with friends/coworkers.

Just some possibilities where the folks you asked may be coming from.

manusko

611 Posts

Specializes in critcal care, CRNA.

NPs make $1.22 more than RNs there?????

That's insane.

It doesn't say NPs. Could just be a nurse with a masters. I'm sure their CRNAs make more too.

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