Entry level MSN masters CNL CNS

  1. Hello

    I am wondering if anyone has gone through the direct entry level masters degree process, please?
    I have applied to SFSU and was immediately rejected (very weird) and am trying to figure out what I can do to improve/get into a program.

    About me:
    I have two degrees from UC Davis in English and psychology.
    I have worked as a CNA for 600 hours.
    I have been a nanny for 2 years of toddlers.
    My letters of rec are from my boss (a surgeon), a microbiologist (retired from UCLA and teaching up North), and the former MLA president.
    My undergrad GPA is a 3.0 but after taking 5 years off, I excelled and finished with 3.55 in my last 60 units and in my science nursing pre-recs.
    6 months of research at UCD with Gale Goodman.
    I was the UCD student manager of aquatics, in the nursing club, a sorority, I studied abroad, worked with foster kids in 2014 and volunteered with Citizens Who Care and at elementary schools as a kindergarten aid.
    My GRE writing score is a 4 out of 6 (I could take this again- grumble $205 grumble-because I took it at the last minute and am confident I can get a higher score).

    Honestly, attending a ADN program makes me sad as I think I am better than that. My stats aren't perfect, but I know that I would excel in a graduate nursing program.
    Can anyone offer advice?

    Thank you!
    Amanda
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  3. by   SmilingBluEyes
    Dear Amanda,

    So look into direct entry programs. They are plenty, trust me. Some brick and mortar universities, some (which bothers me ) are online. I have nothing against online education; I am doing that myself, but with YEARS of actual nursing experience and yes, an ADN was my first degree so......it brings me to this point:

    Your saying "you're better than that" about ADN education is very inflammatory and I would edit your post. Seriously.

    Get over yourself. You have no actual experience as an RN and therefore, unqualified to make such a broad-brush remark about such education. Being a CNA and a nanny and in a "sorority" related to nursing, in no way qualify you to judge others' choice of educational preparation for nursing. Your education does impress me but----Frankly----The lack of understanding about real-world nursing and the various levels of entry (where does that put an LPN, by the way?) make me not just "sad", (your word for it)---- but rather annoyed.


    One more thing: it is against TOS to use the word "nurse" in or as user name unless you are actually a nurse, so kindly, change it.

    Good luck whatever you decide to do in your future endeavors.
    Last edit by SmilingBluEyes on Jan 16
  4. by   AceOfHearts<3
    You aren't above an ADN program. I'd say ADN students are above you at this point seeing as they are actually accepted into a nursing program. I'd adjust your attitude at this point.

    Also as stated you are NOT a nurse and cannot have it in your username. Nurse is a federally protected title.

    I attended an ABSN program, but respect those with an ADN. I've worked with many excellent ADN nurses and was actually preceptored in my two jobs by nurses with ADNs.
  5. by   MurseJJ
    May be helpful to get a letter of recommendation from a nurse.
  6. by   YellowMaskrosbarn
    Quote from SmilingBluEyes
    Dear Amanda,

    So look into direct entry programs. They are plenty, trust me. Some brick and mortar universities, some (which bothers me ) are online. I have nothing against online education; I am doing that myself, but with YEARS of actual nursing experience and yes, an ADN was my first degree so......it brings me to this point:

    Your saying "you're better than that" about ADN education is very inflammatory and I would edit your post. Seriously.

    Get over yourself. You have no actual experience as an RN and therefore, unqualified to make such a broad-brush remark about such education. Being a CNA and a nanny and in a "sorority" related to nursing, in no way qualify you to judge others' choice of educational preparation for nursing. Your education does impress me but----Frankly----The lack of understanding about real-world nursing and the various levels of entry (where does that put an LPN, by the way?) make me not just "sad", (your word for it)---- but rather annoyed.


    One more thing: it is against TOS to use the word "nurse" in or as user name unless you are actually a nurse, so kindly, change it.

    Good luck whatever you decide to do in your future endeavors.
    Kindly, you are not a nice person. Go fly a kite. I do not need negativity. Kindly **** off.
  7. by   CelticGoddess
    Quote from MandaNursePanda
    Kindly, you are not a nice person. Go fly a kite. I do not need negativity. Kindly **** off.
    Pot, meet kettle.

    You need to change your username. You are NOT a nurse
  8. by   YellowMaskrosbarn
    Quote from SmilingBluEyes
    Dear Amanda,

    So look into direct entry programs. They are plenty, trust me. Some brick and mortar universities, some (which bothers me ) are online. I have nothing against online education; I am doing that myself, but with YEARS of actual nursing experience and yes, an ADN was my first degree so......it brings me to this point:

    Your saying "you're better than that" about ADN education is very inflammatory and I would edit your post. Seriously.

    Get over yourself. You have no actual experience as an RN and therefore, unqualified to make such a broad-brush remark about such education. Being a CNA and a nanny and in a "sorority" related to nursing, in no way qualify you to judge others' choice of educational preparation for nursing. Your education does impress me but----Frankly----The lack of understanding about real-world nursing and the various levels of entry (where does that put an LPN, by the way?) make me not just "sad", (your word for it)---- but rather annoyed.


    One more thing: it is against TOS to use the word "nurse" in or as user name unless you are actually a nurse, so kindly, change it.

    Good luck whatever you decide to do in your future endeavors.
    Wow, you are an extremely negative person and your post is UNHELPFUL. I HATE to be a patient of yours!
  9. by   YellowMaskrosbarn
    Quote from CelticGoddess
    Pot, meet kettle.

    You need to change your username. You are NOT a nurse
    Kindly change your name as you are no goddess, dear.
  10. by   YellowMaskrosbarn
    Quote from MurseJJ
    May be helpful to get a letter of recommendation from a nurse.
    Thank you for being the only kind poster on here. I appreciate your POSITIVE feedback.
  11. by   SmilingBluEyes
    Quote from MandaNursePanda
    Kindly, you are not a nice person. Go fly a kite. I do not need negativity. Kindly **** off.
    I LOVE flying kites on the beaches on the West Coast where I live, so I just might do so. Thanks for the well thought, articulate reply.

    Meantime, really get over your cognitive dissonance, change your username and quit being a hypocrite.

    You'll never make it in nursing with your attitude.

    Best wishes, nonetheless.
  12. by   SmilingBluEyes
    Quote from MandaNursePanda
    Wow, you are an extremely negative person and your post is UNHELPFUL. I HATE to be a patient of yours!
    '


    Funny, my patients love me. But I have 20 years' experience being a REAL nurse and therefore am well-qualified in my reply to you.

    Again, cognitive dissonance leads you to tell me to take a leap and the standard "I would never want to be your patient" is so common a reply from those who hear what they don't like and want to throw an online tantrum.

    I really tried in earnest, to give you true, honest feedback and advice, but you take it as you like.

    I won't reply in kind, (telling YOU to ---- off) as it's rude and against who I am as well as TOS, but will do you the favor and report you nonetheless. In the meantime, really look hard at yourself and ask if you are indeed mature and reasonable enough to enter the face-paced, difficult role of advanced-practice nursing. Really. Cause you're not ready if you speak as you really think.

    Have a good (better) night.
    Last edit by SmilingBluEyes on Jan 17
  13. by   Ohm268
    Quote from MandaNursePanda
    Hello

    I am wondering if anyone has gone through the direct entry level masters degree process, please?
    I have applied to SFSU and was immediately rejected (very weird) and am trying to figure out what I can do to improve/get into a program.

    About me:
    I have two degrees from UC Davis in English and psychology.
    I have worked as a CNA for 600 hours.
    I have been a nanny for 2 years of toddlers.
    My letters of rec are from my boss (a surgeon), a microbiologist (retired from UCLA and teaching up North), and the former MLA president.
    My undergrad GPA is a 3.0 but after taking 5 years off, I excelled and finished with 3.55 in my last 60 units and in my science nursing pre-recs.
    6 months of research at UCD with Gale Goodman.
    I was the UCD student manager of aquatics, in the nursing club, a sorority, I studied abroad, worked with foster kids in 2014 and volunteered with Citizens Who Care and at elementary schools as a kindergarten aid.
    My GRE writing score is a 4 out of 6 (I could take this again- grumble $205 grumble-because I took it at the last minute and am confident I can get a higher score).

    Honestly, attending a ADN program makes me sad as I think I am better than that. My stats aren't perfect, but I know that I would excel in a graduate nursing program.
    Can anyone offer advice?

    Thank you!
    Amanda
    I will see if I can take a stab at it and give some advice since I am currently working on getting into a direct entry graduate program myself.

    Your stats themselves look great but do you know in what direction you want to take with your CNL or CNS? Do you want to work with children, newborns, adults? Oncology, research, health administration, CNS on a maternity ward? Have you thought about volunteering in the area of interest to strengthen your application? Did you write that in your goal statement for SFSU? I think the first step is to try and figure out what you want to do with the CNS and CNL, if you haven't done so already. I know that SFSU is a very competitive and heavily impacted nursing program. I was originally going to apply for Fall 2018 but I ended deciding not to because it didn't have the specialty that I was interested in.

    I would echo some of the posters and say that what you have written about being better then becoming an ADN could be misconstrued and while you might not mean it that way, some ADNs on this board might take offense at the implied inferiority in the way you have written that statement. I would kindly suggest that you be careful how you phrase your wording going forward.

    I've volunteered at a hospital for many years now and some of my best nursing teachers have over 20 years of beside experience and some of them currently hold only an ADN. They are very knowledgeable and I learned a lot from them. It doesn't matter what degree they currently hold or at what level, they have so much experience now that MDs and NPs both would come and consult with them and listen to them when they have a suggestion about patient care. They didn't have to take a new and very green doula under their wing or have to take time out of their day to teach me anything and I will always be grateful to them. They have forgotten more about nursing then the entire cohort of residents currently on the ward and their 4 years of medical school a piece.

    I hope this helps and best of luck to you on your path to graduate school.
  14. by   Leedeedee
    You say you were rejected immediately, do you mean within a couple of days? If so it's very likely you didn't meet their minimum criteria in some way. That could be GPA, or your GRE score, or you didn't have enough hours healthcare experience etc. Take another look at their website and try to find out what average GRE and GPA scores were or if there was some criteria, like a prerequisite course you missed out and didn't include in your application.
    Last edit by Leedeedee on Jan 17

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