But she's not a nurse! - page 9
I just started a new position running a clinic. The clinic is staffed by myself and one CNA. I am so happy to be working with this CNA as she has over 15 years experience working in this clinic and... Read More
Aug 5, '02Occupation: BSN Joined: Jul '02; Posts: 70; Likes: 18let's see here, i'm not a mother, but some call me "mama", i'm not a sister to as many who call me "sis".
...i think we get so self-righteous we forget it really isn't that deep. i don't feel "sliced" when anyone calls themselves a nurse. why?...i guess i just don't care, its not that important. there's more on my list of things to do other than police people that use a title a little loosely. i'm a bsn, should i get mad when there's no horns blowed behind "bsn" as opposed to "rn"?
the brochures were changed, and that's acceptable. the poster of this thread handled it with tact and respect.
sighhhhh. if only we can use extra energy for good.
Aug 6, '02Occupation: Nurse Joined: Jun '02; Posts: 651; Likes: 3I don't know how this might be applicable but where I work we call RN's "sister" and enrolled nurses "nurse" . This way the clients and their families can differentiate between us.
Aug 6, '02Occupation: rn Joined: Feb '02; Posts: 693; Likes: 2Aussienurse I don't think that do that in the USA.....my American friends laughed at me when I told them this...they thought we sounded like nuns lol:chuckle
I am finding more and more that this is going out of fashion...but you are right, sometimes it is the only way the patients really understand who is who.
Aug 6, '02Occupation: LVN Joined: May '02; Posts: 38; Likes: 1This appears to me a term of respect. She is a nurse in the true sense that she nurses or renders care. If she had used RN I would say she had a problem. However I do not believe this was a title she claimed but was given to her. I know several PAs who are called Doc all of the time. When corrected they say they are fully aware he is not an MD but use the term as a matter of respect. Maybe you should ask that RN be placed behind your name or quotation marks be put around her "nurse". I believe it should be left as is. It sounds like you work in an enviroment we would all love to work in. Why change it?
Aug 6, '02Occupation: Nurse Joined: Jun '02; Posts: 651; Likes: 3LOL By the time I finish my RN's I might just be a nun, seem to be spending less time with the boy and more time studying and at work!!
Aug 6, '02Occupation: RN in Nursing Education; House Supervision; Editor RNdex Joined: Mar '02; Posts: 427; Likes: 9It has only been within the last 4 years that the word "nurse" has been restricted to RNs and LV/PNs here in California.
Funny, this was never one I thought much about. When it became an issue I just made it clear I was a registered nurse.
In some ways maybe there is something very good about people thinking those who take care of them in the hospital are all nurses. Not because they are giving the designation to people who don't deserve it, but because they recognize that nurses are the ones who do so much for them. It sure beats the ones who say the RNs have nothing to add to the conversation because they just do what the doctor (the important one) tells them to do. [We had a patient's daughter who obstructed care based on that viewpoint.]
Aug 6, '02Joined: Feb '02; Posts: 1,178; Likes: 222originally posted by itsjustmezoe
Aug 6, '02Joined: Dec '00; Posts: 830; Likes: 64:chuckle So you liked Rnitis: the action of a RN when position is questioned and the Rn in question must state her quailifications all the way down to how many butts she has wipped in his / her career to a fellow employee.
ie: to inflame a Registered Nurse
Aug 6, '02Joined: Apr '02; Posts: 14; Likes: 2I have to agree with devils advocate, why are you upset about it???? She's not taking away from you, looks like you are getting your recognition. I worked with a "nurse" who had been with the same physicians office for over 30 years(longer than the present doc's), She was referred to as nurse. The CNA's do perform nursing care that we delegate to them, it's not like a surg tech performing a surgery, they only do what is allowed. Which is more important here, that she is called a nurse or that the pts get comprehensive care???
Aug 6, '02Occupation: Patient Education Specialty: 7 year(s) of experience in LDRP; Education ; Joined: Mar '01; Posts: 7,470; Likes: 56Originally posted by norinradd
I know several PAs who are called Doc all of the time. When corrected they say they are fully aware he is not an MD but use the term as a matter of respect.
Respect or not, I believe it is HIGHLY unethical to mislead the public and or patients. They might fully believe she is a "nurse," and whatever that definition entails to them, if it's a nurse that defines someone with a license, then she should not be called a nurse!
It has nothing to do with recognition of the RN at the clinic, it has to do with informing patients and being forthright about who is taking care of them.
In some states they are demanding nurses wear their last name on their ID badges because "patients want to know who is taking care of them." Yet, we allow a CNA to call herself a nurse?
One word: ass-backwards.
Aug 6, '02Occupation: Enrolled Nurse (special grade) Joined: Aug '02; Posts: 12In answer to your post I will probably cop a lot of flak here but I have broad shoulders
I have a problem with unqualified carers-practitioners-employees, what ever the position is... using the title "nurse" with so little enlightenment for which I so strenuously trained for and achieved. The nursing boards of Australia also take this view and impose a 12 month jail sentence or $2000 fine for any person making themselves out to be a nurse.
The fact is our colleagues are certainly an asset to us (in their positions of employment) but nursing is nursing and if they want to be acknowledged as nurses there is a career pathway available and god knows we need them all if they choose to become qualified.
In ending I worked as an Assistant in Nursing for 5 years before I trained... then I got off my backside and created a career I love.
Thanks for the post on a topic I have endured for years.
Aug 6, '02Occupation: Enrolled Nurse (special grade) Joined: Aug '02; Posts: 12Just a second piece of thought... I think it is really scary to think of CNA's giving injections and high tech "qualified nursing" job descriptions... makes me wonder where nursing is going in the 21st century... do we give away our roles ????
Aug 6, '02Occupation: Enrolled Nurse (special grade) Joined: Aug '02; Posts: 12Originally posted by Aussienurse2
I don't know how this might be applicable but where I work we call RN's "sister" and enrolled nurses "nurse" . This way the clients and their families can differentiate between us.